Weapons of mass persuasion...

peterchen

May I be picky again? Who grants the US the right to propaganda Iraq this way (it's already going on for days, if not weeks, mind you)? Imagine ANY country (be it Canada) to drop leaflets near an US Army base, recommending them to surrender.

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Alvaro Mendez

Absolutely. That's why tonight I'm not going back home. On the way there I could witness a car wreck where people die, or even worse, I could die in one myself. Death is such a horrible thing! We should outlaw knives and baseball bats, and of course guns, and cars... oh the horror! ;P Regards, Alvaro

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Chris Austin

peterchen wrote: May I be picky again? It is always fun, so by all means.:) peterchen wrote: Who grants the US the right to propaganda Iraq this way (it's already going on for days, if not weeks, mind you)? Imagine ANY country (be it Canada) to drop leaflets near an US Army base, recommending them to surrender. I agree that it is very arrogant. But, if you can accept the preface that W and Co. were going to have this war regardless of UN and other diplomatic avenues, it seems reasonable. They are offering people a way to avoid fighting. Also, I think that propaganda has been used in military theaters for a long time now. Maybe we are just seeing an evolution of that. BTW, I am assuming your question was rethorical. We know that all hell would break loose. The word abbreviation is awfully long for what it means.

Jorgen Sigvardsson

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Alvaro Mendez

Anna-Jayne Metcalfe wrote: I don't think that is something we should take lightly. I think the US government has shown that killing people (whether innocent or not) is the last thing it wants to happen. I hope that Saddam values his life enough to step down and allow the US to take over without the need for war. However, I say that death is a natural part of war. It's not a good thing, but it happens. It's like driving in a car. You risk injury or loss of life, yet it doesn't stop you from getting in a car to get somewhere relatively fast. That's how war should be viewed. Our objective is to change the regime, and to get there we risk losing human life. It's just the way it goes. Regards, Alvaro

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Doug Goulden

Maybe we should just drop flowers and French wine? :rolleyes: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

KaRl

Let's nuke them! :laugh:

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KaRl

Alvaro Mendez wrote: I think the US government has shown that killing people (whether innocent or not) is the last thing it wants to happen After invading Iraq, no?

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peterchen

Chris Austin wrote: It is always fun, so by all means. Thank you ;) Yes, it was rhethorical, and I have the Iraquis rather surrender than kill or die. However, I still believe that the good guy should do it the good way, even if it's harder - "If you look into the abyss, the abyss will look into you." And if the US wants to become the "world ruler" they betetr do it the good guy's way, or people will take up arms against them just because it's them, and it will all end in an ugly mess.

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Doug Goulden

KaЯl wrote: I hope this vote won't happen. Not to stop the US of course, Of course not ..... Finally a Frenchman that isn't an obstructionist:rolleyes:;P:rolleyes: Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

KaRl

There are much better uses for wine than dropping it!

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

I managed to stash away some ping of death and teardrops since it was banned. :extremely evil grin: :-D -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

Doug Goulden

Maybe we should just try to appease him, its worked well in the past.:laugh: Maybe they won't hurt us. Seriously though, it better to do this now (seeing s how we were to dumb to finish in '91) before weapons might "migrate" into other hands. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

Doug Goulden

Only California wine;), we're boycotting here. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?

KaRl

Invading a country for a "might" is perhaps for you a good reason, it's not in my opinion.

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Chris Austin

peterchen wrote: However, I still believe that the good guy should do it the good way, even if it's harder I wholeheartedly agree here. This action has shaken me at my core. When we went there in '91 there was no reasonable doubt that it was the right thing but this, it disturbs me for many reasons. The word abbreviation is awfully long for what it means.

KaRl

Doug Goulden wrote: California wine To clean silver stuff? ;P

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KaRl

How did you manage to avoid the inspections? :-D

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Jorgen Sigvardsson

Hey, I'm a super power. I'm not inspected, I inspect! ;) -- Shine, enlighten me - shine Shine, awaken me - shine Shine for all your suffering - shine

Doug Goulden

KaЯl wrote: Invading a country for a "might" is perhaps for you a good reason, it's not in my opinion There is a difference in "mights", there is the really small "might" like I might be hit in the head by a falling meteor, that I can accept, I have no way of preventing it ,and the probability is very small. I might get in an automobile accident, thats a bigger "might", and the reason I wear a seat belt. It doesn't keep me from driving but I try to manage the risk. Sadaam Hussein has used WMD and still has them. Terrorists have actually been found to be investigating using chemical weapons (in Afghanistan). The idea that SH "might" use WMD (its already happened) or "might" give them to terrorists is to large of a "might" for someone who wishes to truly be free. If I was still young enough to re-enlist in the military, its something I could fight for. So yeah, its a big enough "might" for me. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?