What's Up With Windows 10?
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MehGerbil wrote:
Most of the news stories are about the 'Start' button or some other ridiculous concern.
I never could understand the concern about the start button. Once I got used to using the start page I never thought about the missing start button. Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut.
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesI don't see what the fuss is about the Start button either. Any menu for that matter - my PC isn't a deli where I want to browse around and slowly pick something nice looking to run. I know what I want to run, and just use Windows key and type the first few letters of the app name.
No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde
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MehGerbil wrote:
Most of the news stories are about the 'Start' button or some other ridiculous concern.
I never could understand the concern about the start button. Once I got used to using the start page I never thought about the missing start button. Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut.
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut have more than three programs installed on their computers, and who don't want to have to stop what they're doing and go to a start page to access a different program (on page nine of the start "page"), when a little clickable thing can be always available.
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JimmyRopes wrote:
Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut have more than three programs installed on their computers, and who don't want to have to stop what they're doing and go to a start page to access a different program (on page nine of the start "page"), when a little clickable thing can be always available.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut have more than three programs installed on their computers
I have many more than 3 applications installed on my computer and do not see the problem you are having. Qute possibly you are in the wrong profession if you cannot adapt to a new interface. :~
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut have more than three programs installed on their computers
I have many more than 3 applications installed on my computer and do not see the problem you are having. Qute possibly you are in the wrong profession if you cannot adapt to a new interface. :~
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesQuite possibly you like your new toy, but also quite possibly a lot of other people don't like it. Quite possibly, civilised people can discuss/have a laugh about such differences. But with comments like your last one, most possibly you're a jerk.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Quite possibly you like your new toy, but also quite possibly a lot of other people don't like it. Quite possibly, civilised people can discuss/have a laugh about such differences. But with comments like your last one, most possibly you're a jerk.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
most possibly you're a jerk.
An adaptive jerk, thank you very much. :rolleyes:
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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MehGerbil wrote:
Most of the news stories are about the 'Start' button or some other ridiculous concern.
I never could understand the concern about the start button. Once I got used to using the start page I never thought about the missing start button. Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut.
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesTo be fair, I work with people who regularly save files on their computer and who minutes later are completely unable to find those files. This is after using PCs for more than 20 years. A new OS would be more confusing than switching genders for these people.
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MehGerbil wrote:
Most of the news stories are about the 'Start' button or some other ridiculous concern.
I never could understand the concern about the start button. Once I got used to using the start page I never thought about the missing start button. Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut.
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesThe "All Apps" display in Windows 8 was a poor substitute.
Software Zen:
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut have more than three programs installed on their computers
I have many more than 3 applications installed on my computer and do not see the problem you are having. Qute possibly you are in the wrong profession if you cannot adapt to a new interface. :~
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesUnderstanding an interface is not necessarily the same as liking an interface. I can use the interface on Windows 8 but I still find it retarded on a pc. A tablet is another thing though.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello (√-shit)2
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MehGerbil wrote:
Most of the news stories are about the 'Start' button or some other ridiculous concern.
I never could understand the concern about the start button. Once I got used to using the start page I never thought about the missing start button. Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut.
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopesJimmyRopes wrote:
I never could understand the concern about the start button. Once I got used to using the start page I never thought about the missing start button. Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut.
My big deal with the lack of a Start button in the original Windows 8.0 release is that you had to hover the mouse over a tiny 4x4 pixel area in the bottom-left corner to get the popup that would bring up the Start page. Which is fine if you only have a single monitor or your primary monitor is your left-most one, or you don't use Remote Desktop in a window to connect to other Win8 machines. If you have a monitor to the left of your primary one, or have Win8 in an RDP window, then it's just too damned easy to overshoot that tiny bottom-left area, so getting the mouse in juuuuust the right 4x4 pixel space means you have to slow down to do some pixel-perfect clicking. This is no fun on a high-res monitor. I can't imagine it at 4K. Using the Windows key on its own as a shortcut to bring up the Start screen isn't an option either for machines being accessed through Remote Desktop, as it's the local machine that intercepts it, not the remote one. While I'm aware it's an option on mstsc.exe's Local Resources tab, that's about half a dozen clicks away...assuming I actually remember to do that each time I want to connect to a new machine (and then I never do, so I have to disconnect/reconnect to just set the option). The return of the Start button fixed all that. I use 8.1 on multiple machines every day, and at this point I don't see it as any different than 7. Every time I go back to an 8.0 machine however, I get bitten again by these idiosyncrasies right away--and after this much time, I can't blame this on anything being "new" to me.
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I see bits and pieces but I don't have a feel for this new OS yet. Here are my questions: 1: Will the browser support Silverlight? 2: Will it be the same OS across desktop, tablet, phone? 3: Should I hold off on buying a tablet and phone until this is released? 4: Will VS2012 work on this OS? Most of the news stories are about the 'Start' button or some other ridiculous concern. The absence or inclusion of 'charms' don't mean no thang to me.
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JimmyRopes wrote:
I never could understand the concern about the start button. Once I got used to using the start page I never thought about the missing start button. Apparently, it was a big deal to people who are stuck in a rut.
My big deal with the lack of a Start button in the original Windows 8.0 release is that you had to hover the mouse over a tiny 4x4 pixel area in the bottom-left corner to get the popup that would bring up the Start page. Which is fine if you only have a single monitor or your primary monitor is your left-most one, or you don't use Remote Desktop in a window to connect to other Win8 machines. If you have a monitor to the left of your primary one, or have Win8 in an RDP window, then it's just too damned easy to overshoot that tiny bottom-left area, so getting the mouse in juuuuust the right 4x4 pixel space means you have to slow down to do some pixel-perfect clicking. This is no fun on a high-res monitor. I can't imagine it at 4K. Using the Windows key on its own as a shortcut to bring up the Start screen isn't an option either for machines being accessed through Remote Desktop, as it's the local machine that intercepts it, not the remote one. While I'm aware it's an option on mstsc.exe's Local Resources tab, that's about half a dozen clicks away...assuming I actually remember to do that each time I want to connect to a new machine (and then I never do, so I have to disconnect/reconnect to just set the option). The return of the Start button fixed all that. I use 8.1 on multiple machines every day, and at this point I don't see it as any different than 7. Every time I go back to an 8.0 machine however, I get bitten again by these idiosyncrasies right away--and after this much time, I can't blame this on anything being "new" to me.
Try the Windows Logo Key. :-D
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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I'm on-line therefore I am. JimmyRopes -
Understanding an interface is not necessarily the same as liking an interface. I can use the interface on Windows 8 but I still find it retarded on a pc. A tablet is another thing though.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello (√-shit)2
Try Windows 8.1 :-D
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
The report of my death was an exaggeration - Mark Twain Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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To be fair, I work with people who regularly save files on their computer and who minutes later are completely unable to find those files. This is after using PCs for more than 20 years. A new OS would be more confusing than switching genders for these people.
MehGerbil wrote:
I work with people who regularly save files on their computer and who minutes later are completely unable to find those files.
Hopefully they are not developers. :-D
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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The "All Apps" display in Windows 8 was a poor substitute.
Software Zen:
delete this;I never go to all apps unless I want to pin an app to the start page. :-D
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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Try the Windows Logo Key. :-D
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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I'll elaborate on #3. Microsoft has said all Lumia's running Windows 8+ will get Windows 10 for the phone. Source: Windows Central[^]
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I'm not following the logic. They're saying they'll all be upgraded, so you'll get Windows 10?!?
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Try the Windows Logo Key. :-D
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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Try Windows 8.1. :-D There is a windows logo icon on the far left on the task bar.
**_Once you lose your pride the rest is easy.
I would agree with you but then we both would be wrong._**
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