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  • R Rage

    So I bought my parents a Christmas gift online last Friday, on a French website, and, to my surprise, got an email a few minutes after I had ordered, from an obscure Saveguard company, stating that I needed to send a copy of my ID card (both sides) as well as an electricity bill (for instance) , at best per snail mail or fax, as well as a valid fixed line phone number, to confirm I am real and that the can deliver to the address I had put in the order form. :omg: :wtf:. My order would be put on stand-by until I send the required documents. ARE YOU F**ing KIDDING ME ? :^) After a quick google, this happens to be ... no phishing or hoax. It is real. In 2014. Online companies now request documents to be sent to them to prove online buyers are real. Turns out that I could also send the documents by email ?! :wtf: How secure is that ? Do I really need to send via uncrypted email a copy of my valid ID card to order something online for 170€ ?? WTFFFF? Is this only some new French paranoia, or is it the same in other countries ?

    ~RaGE();

    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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    den2k88
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    Sounds like an anti-Amazon government sponsored bull-sheet, I was redaing something about it some time ago (in an Italian free-press newspaper, so I gave it the attention it deserved - next to 0, on the left side). Don't worry, your southern neighbors will soon do something similar. ADD: I would add, you have Carrefour and Auchan, two elephants of physical shop commerce (in Italy they practically own any supermarket or Commercial Centre). They could be "gently pushing" to restrict e-commerce...

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    • M Maximilien

      My bank called me once, just minutes after I made an online purchased to confirm the purchase. That was weird.

      I'd rather be phishing!

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      Deflinek
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      That is actually good thing, but it depends on the bank. I usually get such call after I do something outside of usual pattern. At least it there is a chance that if my card gets stolen and used before I notice, I still have a chance to not lose (much) money.

      -- "My software never has bugs. It just develops random features."

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      • M Maximilien

        My bank called me once, just minutes after I made an online purchased to confirm the purchase. That was weird.

        I'd rather be phishing!

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        OriginalGriff
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        What annoys me about that is that they refuse to provide any information to prove who they are - but expect me to prove who I am. And they rang me...

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

        "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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        • R Rage

          So I bought my parents a Christmas gift online last Friday, on a French website, and, to my surprise, got an email a few minutes after I had ordered, from an obscure Saveguard company, stating that I needed to send a copy of my ID card (both sides) as well as an electricity bill (for instance) , at best per snail mail or fax, as well as a valid fixed line phone number, to confirm I am real and that the can deliver to the address I had put in the order form. :omg: :wtf:. My order would be put on stand-by until I send the required documents. ARE YOU F**ing KIDDING ME ? :^) After a quick google, this happens to be ... no phishing or hoax. It is real. In 2014. Online companies now request documents to be sent to them to prove online buyers are real. Turns out that I could also send the documents by email ?! :wtf: How secure is that ? Do I really need to send via uncrypted email a copy of my valid ID card to order something online for 170€ ?? WTFFFF? Is this only some new French paranoia, or is it the same in other countries ?

          ~RaGE();

          I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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          RyanHughes
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          Is the website served under HTTPS? For example the company website I manage in terms of web development sells electrical courses online and I've served it under HTTPS - https://www.electriciancourses4u.co.uk We've never heard of a policy like that and our courses go up to a few grand per person! If the HTTPS is there then I guess it seems legitimate, maybe it's like you said a new policy that's really strict in France? I would be careful though. If it happened to me personally I would refuse and try and purchase the gifts from a different website.

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          • N Nagy Vilmos

            Rage wrote:

            *surrenders*

            Back to type...

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            glennPattonWork3
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            Now, now be nice! ;P

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            • R Rage

              So I bought my parents a Christmas gift online last Friday, on a French website, and, to my surprise, got an email a few minutes after I had ordered, from an obscure Saveguard company, stating that I needed to send a copy of my ID card (both sides) as well as an electricity bill (for instance) , at best per snail mail or fax, as well as a valid fixed line phone number, to confirm I am real and that the can deliver to the address I had put in the order form. :omg: :wtf:. My order would be put on stand-by until I send the required documents. ARE YOU F**ing KIDDING ME ? :^) After a quick google, this happens to be ... no phishing or hoax. It is real. In 2014. Online companies now request documents to be sent to them to prove online buyers are real. Turns out that I could also send the documents by email ?! :wtf: How secure is that ? Do I really need to send via uncrypted email a copy of my valid ID card to order something online for 170€ ?? WTFFFF? Is this only some new French paranoia, or is it the same in other countries ?

              ~RaGE();

              I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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              Jorgen Andersson
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              When my wife lived and studied in France she couldn't get anything whatsoever done without showing a valid electricity or phone bill, because they had a valid address on them. It seems to be the only way in France to know for sure the actual address of someone.

              Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello (√-shit)2

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              • R Rage

                So I bought my parents a Christmas gift online last Friday, on a French website, and, to my surprise, got an email a few minutes after I had ordered, from an obscure Saveguard company, stating that I needed to send a copy of my ID card (both sides) as well as an electricity bill (for instance) , at best per snail mail or fax, as well as a valid fixed line phone number, to confirm I am real and that the can deliver to the address I had put in the order form. :omg: :wtf:. My order would be put on stand-by until I send the required documents. ARE YOU F**ing KIDDING ME ? :^) After a quick google, this happens to be ... no phishing or hoax. It is real. In 2014. Online companies now request documents to be sent to them to prove online buyers are real. Turns out that I could also send the documents by email ?! :wtf: How secure is that ? Do I really need to send via uncrypted email a copy of my valid ID card to order something online for 170€ ?? WTFFFF? Is this only some new French paranoia, or is it the same in other countries ?

                ~RaGE();

                I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                Pawel Krakowiak
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                It happened to me on a German site named DLGamer. I didn't even want to purchase physical goods there. All I wanted was a bunch of Steam keys to games. They asked me for a scan of my ID. I immediately wrote back to cancel my order and will never be buying with them again.

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                • R Rage

                  So I bought my parents a Christmas gift online last Friday, on a French website, and, to my surprise, got an email a few minutes after I had ordered, from an obscure Saveguard company, stating that I needed to send a copy of my ID card (both sides) as well as an electricity bill (for instance) , at best per snail mail or fax, as well as a valid fixed line phone number, to confirm I am real and that the can deliver to the address I had put in the order form. :omg: :wtf:. My order would be put on stand-by until I send the required documents. ARE YOU F**ing KIDDING ME ? :^) After a quick google, this happens to be ... no phishing or hoax. It is real. In 2014. Online companies now request documents to be sent to them to prove online buyers are real. Turns out that I could also send the documents by email ?! :wtf: How secure is that ? Do I really need to send via uncrypted email a copy of my valid ID card to order something online for 170€ ?? WTFFFF? Is this only some new French paranoia, or is it the same in other countries ?

                  ~RaGE();

                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                  dandy72
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                  Rage wrote:

                  I needed to send a copy of my ID card (both sides) as well as an electricity bill (for instance) , at best per snail mail or fax, as well as a valid fixed line phone number, to confirm I am real and that the can deliver to the address I had put in the order form

                  This is where my response would consist simply of a screenshot of the same item on Amazon's site, with the "1-Click Purchase" button highlighted.

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                  • R Rage

                    So I bought my parents a Christmas gift online last Friday, on a French website, and, to my surprise, got an email a few minutes after I had ordered, from an obscure Saveguard company, stating that I needed to send a copy of my ID card (both sides) as well as an electricity bill (for instance) , at best per snail mail or fax, as well as a valid fixed line phone number, to confirm I am real and that the can deliver to the address I had put in the order form. :omg: :wtf:. My order would be put on stand-by until I send the required documents. ARE YOU F**ing KIDDING ME ? :^) After a quick google, this happens to be ... no phishing or hoax. It is real. In 2014. Online companies now request documents to be sent to them to prove online buyers are real. Turns out that I could also send the documents by email ?! :wtf: How secure is that ? Do I really need to send via uncrypted email a copy of my valid ID card to order something online for 170€ ?? WTFFFF? Is this only some new French paranoia, or is it the same in other countries ?

                    ~RaGE();

                    I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                    newton saber
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                    Very efficient process and secure too. :D Must've been created by one gov't or another.

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                    • N Nagy Vilmos

                      Rage wrote:

                      *surrenders*

                      Back to type...

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                      PhilLenoir
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                      Rage will report you for spamming again! :-D

                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                      • D dandy72

                        Rage wrote:

                        I needed to send a copy of my ID card (both sides) as well as an electricity bill (for instance) , at best per snail mail or fax, as well as a valid fixed line phone number, to confirm I am real and that the can deliver to the address I had put in the order form

                        This is where my response would consist simply of a screenshot of the same item on Amazon's site, with the "1-Click Purchase" button highlighted.

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                        User 11344823
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                        No kidding - amazing how difficult it can be to just make a $20 purchase these days..... ~Pashm Pashmina Perfection

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