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  • L Lost User

    They weren't all that good at it back then either. Think of how much we actually still have from them (ignore clay tablets used for inventory management, that's not knowledge), and then think about how much there used to be in the library of Alexandria. And it didn't even have everything! We could engrave a bunch of knowledge on steel plates encased in fused quartz or something like that, and dump them in deserts around the world. But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from.

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    OriginalGriff
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    And remember that although Egyptian writing survived for thousands of years, we couldn't read it until 1822: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rosetta_Stone[^]

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    • M Marc Clifton

      Sorry to break this to you, but there isn't any knowledge worth retaining nowadays. ;) Marc

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      Marc Clifton wrote:

      Sorry to break this to you, but there isn't any knowledge worth retaining nowadays.

      Is that a re-tweet?

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      • L Lost User

        I'm pretty sure Norton Anti-virus will still be about.

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        It might even have finished a full scan, by then.

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        • Mike HankeyM Mike Hankey

          So you're saying Charlie Brown and the Peanuts gang is not worth retaining...sacrilegious! :)

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          Marc Clifton
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          Mike Hankey wrote:

          So you're saying Charlie Brown and the Peanuts gang is not worth retaining

          OK, there are exceptions. :) But please, can we just throw Garfield into the great recycling center that bad comics go to? Marc

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            Marc Clifton wrote:

            Sorry to break this to you, but there isn't any knowledge worth retaining nowadays.

            Is that a re-tweet?

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Marc Clifton
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            Mark_Wallace wrote:

            Is that a re-tweet?

            :laugh: Undoubtedly. Marc

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            • L Lost User

              They weren't all that good at it back then either. Think of how much we actually still have from them (ignore clay tablets used for inventory management, that's not knowledge), and then think about how much there used to be in the library of Alexandria. And it didn't even have everything! We could engrave a bunch of knowledge on steel plates encased in fused quartz or something like that, and dump them in deserts around the world. But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from.

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              But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from. Wonderfully put Harold. :thumbsup: (Still, if we last long enough, I am sure that there will be digital archaeologists around that know nothing about fingers.)

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                But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from. Wonderfully put Harold. :thumbsup: (Still, if we last long enough, I am sure that there will be digital archaeologists around that know nothing about fingers.)

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                You mean society (including North Korea) can't do stuff like this? https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svalbard_Global_Seed_Vault[^]

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                • V virang_21

                  As our society progress towards technological advancement in ways to retain knowledge for next generation it is getting harder and harder to retain that knowledge in a form that can last few civilizations In old days when our recorded history began early Sumerians started creating clay tablets which is still there in readable form after more than 5000 years Then we got papyrus and papers and it can last few thousand years without decaying In our generation we got floppy discs , memory drives, SSDs but the question is how long information stored in such form will last for next civilization

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                  • L Lost User

                    They weren't all that good at it back then either. Think of how much we actually still have from them (ignore clay tablets used for inventory management, that's not knowledge), and then think about how much there used to be in the library of Alexandria. And it didn't even have everything! We could engrave a bunch of knowledge on steel plates encased in fused quartz or something like that, and dump them in deserts around the world. But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from.

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                    harold aptroot wrote:

                    But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from.

                    Is there any kind of probable human society capable of taking any action that it does not perceive it will benefit from?

                    If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                    • V virang_21

                      As our society progress towards technological advancement in ways to retain knowledge for next generation it is getting harder and harder to retain that knowledge in a form that can last few civilizations In old days when our recorded history began early Sumerians started creating clay tablets which is still there in readable form after more than 5000 years Then we got papyrus and papers and it can last few thousand years without decaying In our generation we got floppy discs , memory drives, SSDs but the question is how long information stored in such form will last for next civilization

                      Zen and the art of software maintenance : rm -rf * Maths is like love : a simple idea but it can get complicated.

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                      BrianBattles
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                      If every random schmuck in those ancient civilizations was literate and had access to clay, writing implements, etc, we'd think humanity had always put weird clothes on their cats, traded witty insults ("Hittites suck!", "Another idiot from the Eluma Elish Belt!"). So maybe it's better when a society's trivia does kinda crumble away...

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                      • T TNCaver

                        harold aptroot wrote:

                        But a society obsessed with hedonism at the small scale and the economy at the large scale is incapable of taking actions that it doesn't benefit from.

                        Is there any kind of probable human society capable of taking any action that it does not perceive it will benefit from?

                        If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                        Lost User
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                        Sure, I mean, it's not immediately self-evidently impossible, right? Of course it can't spend too much resources on getting side-tracked..

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