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"In Defense Of Printf"

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  • S Simon ORiordan from UK

    No mate. It isn't 'old' C++ or any kind of C++. Printf is C.

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    HobbyProggy
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    it doesn't matter if it's c or c++, it's not safe :/ that's what matters.

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      it doesn't matter if it's c or c++, it's not safe :/ that's what matters.

      if(this.signature != "") { MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature); } else { MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found"); }

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      Safety is overrated: Health and Softy is getting everywhere! :laugh:

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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        Safety is overrated: Health and Softy is getting everywhere! :laugh:

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        HobbyProggy
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        I see why most c programs can easily be hacked :P

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        • S Simon ORiordan from UK

          No mate. It isn't 'old' C++ or any kind of C++. Printf is C.

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          Gary Wheeler
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          "If you can't take a little bloody nose, maybe you ought to go back home and crawl under your bed. It's not safe out here. It's wondrous, with treasures to satiate desires both subtle and gross. But it's not for the timid.[^]" Q uses printf().

          Software Zen: delete this;

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          • H HobbyProggy

            I see why most c programs can easily be hacked :P

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            Nelek
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            HobbyProggy wrote:

            I see why most c programs can easily be hacked

            I would say, that is not a very valid argument. Any program can be easily hacked if the programer doesn't take the needed counter messures

            M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              HobbyProggy wrote:

              I see why most c programs can easily be hacked

              I would say, that is not a very valid argument. Any program can be easily hacked if the programer doesn't take the needed counter messures

              M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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              HobbyProggy
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              That is correct, but i think it's an addition to my comment not a rework :)

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              • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                No mate. It isn't 'old' C++ or any kind of C++. Printf is C.

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                CafedeJamaica
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                Yo mama so fat she uses printf

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                • C CafedeJamaica

                  Yo mama so fat she uses printf

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                  Slacker007
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                  I don't always printf but when I do I print "f"

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                    HobbyProggy wrote:

                    I see why most c programs can easily be hacked

                    I would say, that is not a very valid argument. Any program can be easily hacked if the programer doesn't take the needed counter messures

                    M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                    PhilLenoir
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                    I'm not so sure - ever tried hacking Ada? You have to break Ada to make it hackable (With unchecked_conversion)!

                    Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                      I'm not so sure - ever tried hacking Ada? You have to break Ada to make it hackable (With unchecked_conversion)!

                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                      Simon ORiordan from UK
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                      I remember Ada. She used to make a nice cheese and tomato sandwich.

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                      • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                        I remember Ada. She used to make a nice cheese and tomato sandwich.

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                        PhilLenoir
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                        ... and a luvverly cuppa

                        Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                        • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                          No mate. It isn't 'old' C++ or any kind of C++. Printf is C.

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Which is a subset of C++.

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                          • P PhilLenoir

                            I'm not so sure - ever tried hacking Ada? You have to break Ada to make it hackable (With unchecked_conversion)!

                            Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                            glennPattonPub
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                            Ada Hacked!? I had enough trouble getting to compile :wtf:

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                              Ada Hacked!? I had enough trouble getting to compile :wtf:

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                              PhilLenoir
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                              All that rigour comes at an expense! ;)

                              Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                Which is a subset of C++.

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                                Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                Well, sure. But if some geezer is going to go on a MS site and waffle about printf he needs to be accurate. Incidentally, gcc natively does c. Typically I've had to add g++ for c++, so they are distinct.

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