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    Mitchell J
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    I bought one of these[^] little beauties. It should arrive in the mail tomorrow... possibly a CP review in the making! And although I am a little curious about it from a user's perspective, I only bought it because I intend to build apps for it :D

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      I bought one of these[^] little beauties. It should arrive in the mail tomorrow... possibly a CP review in the making! And although I am a little curious about it from a user's perspective, I only bought it because I intend to build apps for it :D

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      If you can make me a mind control app or an x-ray vision app, I'll buy one too... :laugh:

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        If you can make me a mind control app or an x-ray vision app, I'll buy one too... :laugh:

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        I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
        Me, all the time

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        den2k88
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        Trust me, X-Ray vision is a lie :sigh: - go for the mind control :thumbsup:

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          Trust me, X-Ray vision is a lie :sigh: - go for the mind control :thumbsup:

          Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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          Johnny J
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          den2k88 wrote:

          Trust me, X-Ray vision is a lie

          I don't know, I seem to recall that I saw a commercial for x-ray glasses[^] in a Magazine some 40 years ago. Are you telling me that they were not real?

          Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
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          The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
          Winston Churchill, 1944
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          I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
          Me, all the time

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            den2k88 wrote:

            Trust me, X-Ray vision is a lie

            I don't know, I seem to recall that I saw a commercial for x-ray glasses[^] in a Magazine some 40 years ago. Are you telling me that they were not real?

            Anything that is unrelated to elephants is irrelephant
            Anonymous
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            The problem with quotes on the internet is that you can never tell if they're genuine
            Winston Churchill, 1944
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            I'd just like a chance to prove that money can't make me happy.
            Me, all the time

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            Totally. A glasses-size generator how much could shoot? 10 Watts at most? Consider that to inspect olives without the kernel we need 40 kV * 7 mA = 280 Watts. BUT, most of all, we have a generator on one side AND a detector on the other, which mean that we collect the "passing through" X-Rays, that amount to something like 90% of the emitted rays. With a glass that works both as a generator and as receiver you would have only 10% of the rays due to scattering, so 1 Watt in the hypotesis of 10-Watt generators. Not only that, but scattered rays would have unpredictable trajectory, making so that a small surface like a glasses lens would receive only a small fraction of the already scarce X-Rays. But there is more: X-rays power decreases with the square of the distance, so you must be very clese to the target, in order to see... a B/W image of the (density*depth) product of the target where darker pixels mean there is more "material". With a decent amount of time (several seconds for a single inspection area) and a powerful and versatile generator you could obtain a mass spectrometry of the inspected target, knowing the percentuals of known materials it contains. Like what is done in airports to detect C4 in luggage. But you couldn't read a newspaper in reverse, or look at naked girls ;) Edit: typos

            Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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              Totally. A glasses-size generator how much could shoot? 10 Watts at most? Consider that to inspect olives without the kernel we need 40 kV * 7 mA = 280 Watts. BUT, most of all, we have a generator on one side AND a detector on the other, which mean that we collect the "passing through" X-Rays, that amount to something like 90% of the emitted rays. With a glass that works both as a generator and as receiver you would have only 10% of the rays due to scattering, so 1 Watt in the hypotesis of 10-Watt generators. Not only that, but scattered rays would have unpredictable trajectory, making so that a small surface like a glasses lens would receive only a small fraction of the already scarce X-Rays. But there is more: X-rays power decreases with the square of the distance, so you must be very clese to the target, in order to see... a B/W image of the (density*depth) product of the target where darker pixels mean there is more "material". With a decent amount of time (several seconds for a single inspection area) and a powerful and versatile generator you could obtain a mass spectrometry of the inspected target, knowing the percentuals of known materials it contains. Like what is done in airports to detect C4 in luggage. But you couldn't read a newspaper in reverse, or look at naked girls ;) Edit: typos

              Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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              ZurdoDev
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              Actually, there were cameras years ago that picked up certain frequencies of light that made it so you could see through clothing. Motorola I seem to recall. :^)

              There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Actually, there were cameras years ago that picked up certain frequencies of light that made it so you could see through clothing. Motorola I seem to recall. :^)

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                Well those are not X-Rays, for sure. Some frequences of light, considering UV and IR may be able to pass through the first tenths of millimiter of solid, opaque matter - Just looking at IR temperature maps is "looking through clothing". With high wavelenght ( = low frequencies) you may measure the interference with the whole mass of the body not counting clothing which would be too thin to perturbate that wavelength, obtaining a monochromatic image of the depth of the target in each point. I would check all the links and names you gave me but Internet at work is severely locked, I battled 2 years to access CP...

                Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                  Well those are not X-Rays, for sure. Some frequences of light, considering UV and IR may be able to pass through the first tenths of millimiter of solid, opaque matter - Just looking at IR temperature maps is "looking through clothing". With high wavelenght ( = low frequencies) you may measure the interference with the whole mass of the body not counting clothing which would be too thin to perturbate that wavelength, obtaining a monochromatic image of the depth of the target in each point. I would check all the links and names you gave me but Internet at work is severely locked, I battled 2 years to access CP...

                  Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                  ZurdoDev
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                  den2k88 wrote:

                  Well those are not X-Rays, for sure

                  Correct. :thumbsup:

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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