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  • S Strika

    OK, guys... We talk about war the whole day (night). And I got a question for all o`ya. I live in Russia, where people can`t change a thing. I mean - there`re pacifist demonstrations all over the world - not in R. People voted for peace - not here. We like peace and we like freedom - out country won`t let us to give it. Can you tell me - is it possible in YOUR country to manage political system, police, health systems and so on? Or the world`s such a piece o`s*it and nobody`s able to achive a thing? How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Even Can`t Smile Today... (Suicidal Tendencies)

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    Brakanjan
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    yip, if you're part of the majority group in the country, sure. I live in South Africa, I'm white (=5% of the population), so no one could really care less what I feel. In Africa there different rules anyway. Look at Zimbabwe...:((

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      OK, guys... We talk about war the whole day (night). And I got a question for all o`ya. I live in Russia, where people can`t change a thing. I mean - there`re pacifist demonstrations all over the world - not in R. People voted for peace - not here. We like peace and we like freedom - out country won`t let us to give it. Can you tell me - is it possible in YOUR country to manage political system, police, health systems and so on? Or the world`s such a piece o`s*it and nobody`s able to achive a thing? How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Even Can`t Smile Today... (Suicidal Tendencies)

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      is it possible in YOUR country to manage political system, police, health systems and so on? Not here in the US. The lawyers and speech writers control everything. Change has become impossible. The democratic system has become mired in the molasses of special interest groups, lawsuits, lobbyists, and money grubbers. No one cares anymore. Everyone is out for themselves. And they use democracy to justify their own personal gains, instead of a vehicle for promoting the betterment of all. Anyways, maybe what I just wrote was a load of BS, but it's my opinion, for what it's worth. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
      Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
      Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
      Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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      • S Strika

        OK, guys... We talk about war the whole day (night). And I got a question for all o`ya. I live in Russia, where people can`t change a thing. I mean - there`re pacifist demonstrations all over the world - not in R. People voted for peace - not here. We like peace and we like freedom - out country won`t let us to give it. Can you tell me - is it possible in YOUR country to manage political system, police, health systems and so on? Or the world`s such a piece o`s*it and nobody`s able to achive a thing? How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Even Can`t Smile Today... (Suicidal Tendencies)

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        Tim Smith
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        Yes. A small group of people can change things at a local level. A larger group at the state level. A very large group at the national level. You see it everyday in action here in the U.S. Over in Cobb County a small group of stupid people actually were able to open the door for creationism to be taught in public school. :rolleyes: Take a look at the environmental groups or AARP (American Association for Retired People). They are able to change laws to their favor. The problem a lot of people get into is this mindset that if the laws are in their favor, then those were the logical laws and all is right with the world. When the laws are for things they don't like, they see it as a great evil lobbying effort by the other side. The truth is that both sides have their lobbying groups that try to make sure their ideals are the ones the get implemented. Tim Smith I'm going to patent thought. I have yet to see any prior art.

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          is it possible in YOUR country to manage political system, police, health systems and so on? Not here in the US. The lawyers and speech writers control everything. Change has become impossible. The democratic system has become mired in the molasses of special interest groups, lawsuits, lobbyists, and money grubbers. No one cares anymore. Everyone is out for themselves. And they use democracy to justify their own personal gains, instead of a vehicle for promoting the betterment of all. Anyways, maybe what I just wrote was a load of BS, but it's my opinion, for what it's worth. Marc Help! I'm an AI running around in someone's f*cked up universe simulator.
          Sensitivity and ethnic diversity means celebrating difference, not hiding from it. - Christian Graus
          Every line of code is a liability - Taka Muraoka
          Microsoft deliberately adds arbitrary layers of complexity to make it difficult to deliver Windows features on non-Windows platforms--Microsoft's "Halloween files"

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          Navin
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          Marc Clifton wrote: No one cares anymore I think that is the biggest problem. It is pathetic that we can't even get half of the eligible voters to vote in an election. Heck, if all the people who didn't usually vote decided to vote for Donald Duck, he'd win hands down. You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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          • S Strika

            OK, guys... We talk about war the whole day (night). And I got a question for all o`ya. I live in Russia, where people can`t change a thing. I mean - there`re pacifist demonstrations all over the world - not in R. People voted for peace - not here. We like peace and we like freedom - out country won`t let us to give it. Can you tell me - is it possible in YOUR country to manage political system, police, health systems and so on? Or the world`s such a piece o`s*it and nobody`s able to achive a thing? How Will I Laugh Tomorrow When I Even Can`t Smile Today... (Suicidal Tendencies)

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            Navin
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            Here in the US, it is possible, but you have to be loud, persistent, and have others who are loud and persistent on your side. That is especially true on the local or state level, where people seem to care more. Many states and localities have public referendums on issues... You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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            • N Navin

              Marc Clifton wrote: No one cares anymore I think that is the biggest problem. It is pathetic that we can't even get half of the eligible voters to vote in an election. Heck, if all the people who didn't usually vote decided to vote for Donald Duck, he'd win hands down. You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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              Jamie Nordmeyer
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              I don't know if I could deal with Donald Duck being the president. Think about it. First, he doesn't wear any pants. If you thought Clinton had problems... at least he wore pants! Second, the boy has a TERRIBLE temper! You don't want someone like that with his finger on the 'NUKE' button, do you? I'd be more inclined to vote for Mickey Mouse. He's calm, and has charisma. Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Cho Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                I don't know if I could deal with Donald Duck being the president. Think about it. First, he doesn't wear any pants. If you thought Clinton had problems... at least he wore pants! Second, the boy has a TERRIBLE temper! You don't want someone like that with his finger on the 'NUKE' button, do you? I'd be more inclined to vote for Mickey Mouse. He's calm, and has charisma. Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Cho Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                Navin
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                All good points. But could you deal with other nations making fun of you as a "Mickey Mouse" country? You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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                  All good points. But could you deal with other nations making fun of you as a "Mickey Mouse" country? You can pick your friends, and you can pick your nose, but you can't pick your friend's nose.

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                  Jamie Nordmeyer
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                  I suppose it would be expected from a country who's charector inventions include the likes of The Teletubbies and Barney. :rolleyes: Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Cho Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                  • J Jamie Nordmeyer

                    I suppose it would be expected from a country who's charector inventions include the likes of The Teletubbies and Barney. :rolleyes: Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Cho Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                    Gavin Greig
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                    I hesitate to claim "credit" for the Teletubbies, but they're from the UK. You can keep Barney though :cool:. Gavin Greig "Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye." Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.

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                    • G Gavin Greig

                      I hesitate to claim "credit" for the Teletubbies, but they're from the UK. You can keep Barney though :cool:. Gavin Greig "Haw, you're no deid," girned Charon. "Get aff ma boat or ah'll report ye." Matthew Fitt - The Hoose O Haivers: The Twelve Trauchles O Heracles.

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                      Jamie Nordmeyer
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                      :laugh: OK. Deal! Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Cho Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                      • J Jamie Nordmeyer

                        I suppose it would be expected from a country who's charector inventions include the likes of The Teletubbies and Barney. :rolleyes: Kyosa Jamie Nordmeyer - Cho Dan Portland, Oregon, USA

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                        Lost User
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                        You're forgetting Dangermouse !!!! Its a UK thing by the way ;P Elaine :rose: The tigress is here :-D

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