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  • D dandy72

    OriginalGriff wrote:

    I don't use Defender (I consider Win8 a virus in it's own right :laugh: ) but I do use Security Essentials

    I'm assuming that if you use Security Essentials, you're on 7. Honest question: What makes Win8 "a virus in it's (sic) own right") that isn't already part of Win7?

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    The way it takes all the good bits, and either throws them away, or make them harder to use? Don't get me wrong, it's probably a good OS for a tablet, but for desktop it's a PITA...

    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

      The way it takes all the good bits, and either throws them away, or make them harder to use? Don't get me wrong, it's probably a good OS for a tablet, but for desktop it's a PITA...

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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      Jeremy Falcon
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      In all fairness, 8.1 is a lot better about it. I'm used to it and like it now. And I don't run many metro apps at all.

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        The thread below about McAfee and Kaspersky got me thinking... I don't see why people still use virus scanners that are obtrusive. I haven't had a virus in years and most scanners act more like a virus than most viruses. Windows defender is already installed and kept up-to-date and comes with Windows. I download files in Chrome, which scans them automatically. Google warns against listed malware sites. Everybody knows not to run executable email attachments. Porn and warez are the major ways people get them (of course they lie about it). I don't see why a professional would need crap like that on their system, outside of company policy or some garbage like that. Anyone else wonder why all the fuss still as well?

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        Michael Gazonda
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        I've been the same way for years. Nice to hear I'm not alone.

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        • J Jeremy Falcon

          The thread below about McAfee and Kaspersky got me thinking... I don't see why people still use virus scanners that are obtrusive. I haven't had a virus in years and most scanners act more like a virus than most viruses. Windows defender is already installed and kept up-to-date and comes with Windows. I download files in Chrome, which scans them automatically. Google warns against listed malware sites. Everybody knows not to run executable email attachments. Porn and warez are the major ways people get them (of course they lie about it). I don't see why a professional would need crap like that on their system, outside of company policy or some garbage like that. Anyone else wonder why all the fuss still as well?

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          Ravi Bhavnani
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          Jeremy Falcon wrote:

          I don't see why a professional would need crap like that on their system

          Agreed. :thumbsup: /ravi

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          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

            The way it takes all the good bits, and either throws them away, or make them harder to use? Don't get me wrong, it's probably a good OS for a tablet, but for desktop it's a PITA...

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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            dandy72
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            Not sure if you were actually talking about Windows 8.0 or 8.1. As Jeremy wrote, 8.1 is a lot better, and I also don't use any Metro app.

            OriginalGriff wrote:

            Don't get me wrong, it's probably a good OS for a tablet, but for desktop it's a PITA...

            How's this then for a compromise: I use it on an actual tablet, but use it as if it were a desktop. The only system on my desk is a first-gen Surface Pro (came with 8.0, updated to 8.1). It's hooked up to my mouse/keyboard/3 monitors with a USB dock; using that setup, I practically live in RDP (I remote into VMs running on another system in the house). With enough desktop and taskbar shortcuts, I honestly see the start screen maybe 3 times a day. At this point I don't see it as being much different than any previous incarnation. Point is: Not only is it flexible enough that you can completely ignore the tablet-specific features, but I'm ignoring those tablet-specific features on an actual tablet. Mind = blown.

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            • J Jeremy Falcon

              OriginalGriff wrote:

              Once upon a time

              I remember those days. Even still I'd use McAfee over Norton because McAfee was less obtrusive. Sadly, those days are gone.

              OriginalGriff wrote:

              Now, they are hideous, resource swallowing monsters that do more damage when you try to remove them than all the viruses they protect from.

              Preach the gospel my friend!

              OriginalGriff wrote:

              Would I run with no antivirus? No firewall? No chance! I've had to clean up the mess that results if you do ... but would I run Symantec or McAfee today? No way José!

              I'm not a MS fanboy at all, but I do feel that Windows Defender and Windows Firewall provide enough security for me. I haven't gotten a virus yet using it, so I can't complain.

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              Richard Andrew x64
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              Jeremy Falcon wrote:

              I haven't gotten a virus yet using it

              ...That you're aware of. <evil grin>

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              • J Jeremy Falcon

                The thread below about McAfee and Kaspersky got me thinking... I don't see why people still use virus scanners that are obtrusive. I haven't had a virus in years and most scanners act more like a virus than most viruses. Windows defender is already installed and kept up-to-date and comes with Windows. I download files in Chrome, which scans them automatically. Google warns against listed malware sites. Everybody knows not to run executable email attachments. Porn and warez are the major ways people get them (of course they lie about it). I don't see why a professional would need crap like that on their system, outside of company policy or some garbage like that. Anyone else wonder why all the fuss still as well?

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                Lost User
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                Maybe because of my Age I'm maybe to conservative. I still use Sophos on all of my machines....ok, maybe because it is sponsored by my Company :) Bruno

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                • J Jeremy Falcon

                  The thread below about McAfee and Kaspersky got me thinking... I don't see why people still use virus scanners that are obtrusive. I haven't had a virus in years and most scanners act more like a virus than most viruses. Windows defender is already installed and kept up-to-date and comes with Windows. I download files in Chrome, which scans them automatically. Google warns against listed malware sites. Everybody knows not to run executable email attachments. Porn and warez are the major ways people get them (of course they lie about it). I don't see why a professional would need crap like that on their system, outside of company policy or some garbage like that. Anyone else wonder why all the fuss still as well?

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                  Emiliano Musso
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                  I agree with you in general, but i think its better to keep a little safer those blunderers, which, though professional, are not professional/careful enough (in 2014, i still saw attached executables reaping their victims... :( )

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                  • D DaveX86

                    Well, the way things are going in the States with their 10 million new illegal aliens bringing back Tuberculosis, Polio, Mumps, Measles, etc...better safe than sorry.

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                    BillWoodruff
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                    You left out ISIS infiltrators with Ebola.

                    «A man will be imprisoned in a room with a door that's unlocked and opens inwards ... as long as it does not occur to him to pull rather than push»  Wittgenstein

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                    • B BillWoodruff

                      You left out ISIS infiltrators with Ebola.

                      «A man will be imprisoned in a room with a door that's unlocked and opens inwards ... as long as it does not occur to him to pull rather than push»  Wittgenstein

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                      DaveX86
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                      True, I hear there's Ebola in Mosul now...only a matter of time...

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                      • D DaveX86

                        True, I hear there's Ebola in Mosul now...only a matter of time...

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                        BillWoodruff
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                        And what about the alien DNA inserted into GMO vegetables ?

                        «A man will be imprisoned in a room with a door that's unlocked and opens inwards ... as long as it does not occur to him to pull rather than push»  Wittgenstein

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                        • B BillWoodruff

                          And what about the alien DNA inserted into GMO vegetables ?

                          «A man will be imprisoned in a room with a door that's unlocked and opens inwards ... as long as it does not occur to him to pull rather than push»  Wittgenstein

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                          DaveX86
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                          It's been thought of...never saw Threshold? :)

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