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Erik Meijer: AGILE must be destroyed, once and for all

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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    :: Where's that +10 button? ::

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    newton saber
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    Thank you. It's good to see rational people agreeing with each other. :D

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    • K Kent Sharkey

      I like that most of his suggestions, like "Just ship, then fix based on customer feedback" is pretty much what I understand Agile to be. (Ignoring the invocations of Agile)

      TTFN - Kent

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      Nish Nishant
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      He just hates standing up in a conf room with 8 other people before he's had his 3rd morning coffee. Oh wait, that's me. :rolleyes:

      Regards, Nish


      Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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      • K Kent Sharkey

        The Register[^]:

        Enough of the stand-up meetings please, just WRITE SOME CODE

        "One of you... must do this."

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        Silliness. Like any tool, the agile development process needs to be used properly in order for it to be effective.  A vacuum cleaner is much better when it comes to removing dust than a spoon.  But please don't use it to stir your coffee. /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        • N Nish Nishant

          He just hates standing up in a conf room with 8 other people before he's had his 3rd morning coffee. Oh wait, that's me. :rolleyes:

          Regards, Nish


          Blog: voidnish.wordpress.com

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          PIEBALDconsult
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          Nish Sivakumar wrote:

          hates standing up in a conf room with 8 other people

          Sure, but that's just Scrum, not all of Agile.

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          • K Kent Sharkey

            The Register[^]:

            Enough of the stand-up meetings please, just WRITE SOME CODE

            "One of you... must do this."

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            Nemanja Trifunovic
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            I actually agree, but Zed Shaw expresses the feeling much better than I can[^] (beware of NSFW language)

            utf8-cpp

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            • P PIEBALDconsult

              Nish Sivakumar wrote:

              hates standing up in a conf room with 8 other people

              Sure, but that's just Scrum, not all of Agile.

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              Duncan Edwards Jones
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              The problem with Scrum is that too often it can degenerate into a ruck, or a rolling maul...especially if the only intent is to keep the ball moving. (You must be English/Irish/Scottish/Welsh to understand this post )

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              • N Nemanja Trifunovic

                I actually agree, but Zed Shaw expresses the feeling much better than I can[^] (beware of NSFW language)

                utf8-cpp

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                Big Daddy Farang
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                I think your link got censored.

                BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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                • K Kent Sharkey

                  The Register[^]:

                  Enough of the stand-up meetings please, just WRITE SOME CODE

                  "One of you... must do this."

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                  Master Man1980
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                  :laugh:

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                  • B Big Daddy Farang

                    I think your link got censored.

                    BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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                    Nemanja Trifunovic
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                    Yep - gotta love buggy censorship software :doh:

                    utf8-cpp

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                    • B Big Daddy Farang

                      I think your link got censored.

                      BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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                      It's a fill in the blank URL :) There's six letters that have been blanked out. To complete the phrase "Mother******", I have tried: MotherTeresa, that didn't work. MotherNature, no. Motherof-all, no. MotherLode, is too short. There can't be that many. Someone will figure it out...

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                      • B Big Daddy Farang

                        I think your link got censored.

                        BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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                        clbuttic

                        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                          clbuttic

                          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                          Big Daddy Farang
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                          Good one.

                          BDF The internet makes dumb people dumber and clever people cleverer. -- PaulowniaK

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