Silly question, if Iraq is disarmed why are they firing Scuds?
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Jason Henderson wrote: Saddam was not cooperating. If Saddam would have surrendered himself, this would be over by now. exactly. because it's really about regime change, not WMDs. i'm glad you see it too. -c
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they aren't firing Scuds. refresh your browser. i take that back. i just heard the military has said that they were "medium-range" missiles. which probably makes them Scuds. -c
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Chris Losinger wrote: i take that back. i just heard the military has said that they were "medium-range" missiles. which probably makes them Scuds. Or Al-Sumud 2, Al-Fatah (2), Frog 7 or chinise/nk model.
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Doug Goulden wrote: Just a question for the French members here . If SH was disarmed in '98 and was forbidden to have missles, how come he keeps shooting things he doesn't have into Kuwait? Maybe it was a big slingshot they rigged up quick like a bunny ..... I wondered about this too, when I saw that he was firing scuds. I looked up some information, and it looks like scuds aren't necessarily prohibited by the UN. Iraq is not allowed to have missiles which travel over 150 km (90 miles). Some scuds can travel further than this limit, but not all of them. (Iraq modified a number of scuds to increase their range - those were the ones they fired at Israel in 1991.) But, the batch of missles which the UN recently told Iraq to destroy - the Al Samoud and Al Fatah missiles - (because it was determined that they could travel upto 180 km), those are also scud missiles. Saddam was in the process of destroying them, but not all of them had been destroyed yet. Hence, when the media says "scud" it really doesn't mean anything because some Scuds are borderline illegal and others are very illegal (like the Scud-B: 185 mile range, the Al-Hussein: 400 miles range, or the Al-Abbas: 560 mile range). If, on the other hand, Saddam manages to get missiles to Israel - then those missiles are obviously outside of UN resolutions, since they have to travel hundreds of miles over Jordan before they would reach Israel. (Keep an eye out for anything like that.) http://www.strategypage.com/iraqwar/missilerangemap.asp[^] ------------------------------------------ "What happened in that Rhode Island club is shocking. To think that over a hundred people would attend a Great White concert." - The Onion
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then how do you explain the fact that the neocons have wanted to do this since Bush 1 ? -c
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Chris Losinger wrote: but did GWB need to do it in such a way as to give a reason to the other 190+ countries I think that IF it is done right, the US and the UK and other nations that work together can show that people will no longer stand by and watch silently while there is evil in the world. Thats sounds simplistic, but I think when people hear the Iraqi people's side of the story, we will come out with a better world opinion. The interesting thing is that a lot of the Eastern European nations are supportive of the attack, I wonder if they have a deeper understanding of what the Iraqi people are going through and what SH is about. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Doug Goulden wrote: a lot of the Eastern European nations clarify that: a lot of eastern European governments are supportive. as far as citizen support goes, only two countries are reported to have majority support for the war... guess which countries... come on, guess... USA and Israel. -c
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Kant wrote: Maybe if the US waited for few more months, I'm tired of this shit.... If everyone was so against this, why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US? BW "We get general information and specific information, but none of the specific information talks about time, place or methods or means..." - Tom Ridge - US Secretary of Homeland Security
brianwelsch wrote: why didn't they take more drastic measures to stop the US? Don't you see? That is why there is such an uproar. We realise just how unstoppable the US is and it frightens the dickens out of us. You think you are benevolent and doing things that are patently obviously good for the rest of the world. We disagree but there is nothing we can do. We rely on the US too much to impose economic sanctions. Our militaries combined would put a dent in yours but thats about it. All a bit FUBAR.
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Cape Town, South AfricaMacbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.
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then how do you explain the fact that the neocons have wanted to do this since Bush 1 ? -c
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Just a question for the French members here ;). If SH was disarmed in '98 and was forbidden to have missles, how come he keeps shooting things he doesn't have into Kuwait? Maybe it was a big slingshot they rigged up quick like a bunny ..... Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
I have to say I'm not surprised. I never doubted he was playing for time. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears
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I have to say I'm not surprised. I never doubted he was playing for time. Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears
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Thats what concerned me, playing for time for what? The guy is a fruit loop. I just hope that this is all over quickly. BTW Condolences on the loss of your countries Marines. You Brits ar a good bunch of folks. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
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Thats what concerned me, playing for time for what? The guy is a fruit loop. I just hope that this is all over quickly. BTW Condolences on the loss of your countries Marines. You Brits ar a good bunch of folks. Uptight Ex-Military Republican married to a Commie Lib - How weird is that?
Me too hun. Thanks for the condolences. I know we Brits come across as a cyncial and odd bunch at times, but now our guys are out there we're behind them. We'll do our bit. :rose: Anna :rose: Homepage | My life in tears
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