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    if give a choice where either you can get better salary (8-10% more) or better quality of work. which will you chose. I am currently working company which pays more and have got offer from competitor where work is much better.Had a talk about work with my current manager and he told "We are unable to utilize your full potential and only research team have work which can utilize you full but there is no opening as per now. but we can try 2-3 months down the line" So what should i do...?Make the switch or wait and see what happens after 2-3 months.

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      if give a choice where either you can get better salary (8-10% more) or better quality of work. which will you chose. I am currently working company which pays more and have got offer from competitor where work is much better.Had a talk about work with my current manager and he told "We are unable to utilize your full potential and only research team have work which can utilize you full but there is no opening as per now. but we can try 2-3 months down the line" So what should i do...?Make the switch or wait and see what happens after 2-3 months.

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      Salary - Environment - work culture - work life balance If I am at your place i will choose better quality of work with good working environment, and if you working long in same company its has more advantages then disadvantages if management is good

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        if give a choice where either you can get better salary (8-10% more) or better quality of work. which will you chose. I am currently working company which pays more and have got offer from competitor where work is much better.Had a talk about work with my current manager and he told "We are unable to utilize your full potential and only research team have work which can utilize you full but there is no opening as per now. but we can try 2-3 months down the line" So what should i do...?Make the switch or wait and see what happens after 2-3 months.

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        Mycroft Holmes
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        I consider the 3-2 months ploy a standard management tool, they probably have no idea what is coming down the pipe and are hoping you forget/miss the opportunity and therefore the problem goes away. Having said that "the grass is always greener" is and extremely valid concept, don't forget you have probably been talking to a recruiter/manager who may have no morals when trying to poach a competitors staff.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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          if give a choice where either you can get better salary (8-10% more) or better quality of work. which will you chose. I am currently working company which pays more and have got offer from competitor where work is much better.Had a talk about work with my current manager and he told "We are unable to utilize your full potential and only research team have work which can utilize you full but there is no opening as per now. but we can try 2-3 months down the line" So what should i do...?Make the switch or wait and see what happens after 2-3 months.

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          depends an what you mean with "better quality of work". Main key points to consider are: - salary - work-life balance (time off, travel time from/to work, teleworking options, ...) - the tasks (what will you, what kind of projects, etc...) - the work environment (how are your colleagues, bosses and underlings? Do you get sufficient gear or only the bear minimum, what are the growing prospects) this is not in order. You need a good balance of all points depending on your own needs.

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            if give a choice where either you can get better salary (8-10% more) or better quality of work. which will you chose. I am currently working company which pays more and have got offer from competitor where work is much better.Had a talk about work with my current manager and he told "We are unable to utilize your full potential and only research team have work which can utilize you full but there is no opening as per now. but we can try 2-3 months down the line" So what should i do...?Make the switch or wait and see what happens after 2-3 months.

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            See it as "package A" and "package B". What it is opinion of your family and friends? :cool: "Plan A": If you can trust them, I would stick my team. "Plan B": Are you really sure, that the new offer is for real and enduring (No a startup which is shutdown in some months) Other pro and cons are overtime, travel time, hardware and "goodies" like lunch or education.

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              if give a choice where either you can get better salary (8-10% more) or better quality of work. which will you chose. I am currently working company which pays more and have got offer from competitor where work is much better.Had a talk about work with my current manager and he told "We are unable to utilize your full potential and only research team have work which can utilize you full but there is no opening as per now. but we can try 2-3 months down the line" So what should i do...?Make the switch or wait and see what happens after 2-3 months.

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              Make the switch or wait and see what happens after 2-3 months.

              Make the switch and then see what happens in the next 2-3 months. :-D

              In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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                if give a choice where either you can get better salary (8-10% more) or better quality of work. which will you chose. I am currently working company which pays more and have got offer from competitor where work is much better.Had a talk about work with my current manager and he told "We are unable to utilize your full potential and only research team have work which can utilize you full but there is no opening as per now. but we can try 2-3 months down the line" So what should i do...?Make the switch or wait and see what happens after 2-3 months.

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                I am in the middle of a job switch right now. I have been almost 7 years in this company. I was not so good paid as in other places and it was very stressfull from time to time (industry automation = PLC, Robots and so on). But... the company has fully trusted me, I could manage my own time, I was allowed to handle with customers on my own (for important or very expensive matters I had to ask though), work clima was very good (all between 25 and 40 years old and with a nice team feeling), extra hours account without deadline (I even had 4 months vacations once, when my GF ended studies and we made a long asia tour). During this 7 years a customer tried to headhunt me a couple of times. I would have earned 20% or 25% more, but I was there 4 years as extern and I didn't like the clima, the ingeneers were always overloaded, flat rate hours, vacations must be consumed in the year or get lost and more and more and more I am now changing because I bought a house and got married, and my current job is 90 Km (one way) far from home. That means: I have set my highest priority to "Family". I would say, if new job gives you better quality of life and it is important to you, then it is worth the risk. Being somewhere where your evolution has a top or you are underchallenged it is not so nice. My father taught me to set an own deadline and start two lists everytime I had a very important decission to make. One with "pro's" and the other with "contra's" but always with facts trying to avoid the "what if's", fill them honestly during a time with every little aspect that comes to mind and then, when deadline comes, have a look to both lists and decide according to the lists. It has helped me a lot. It is difficult to tell you what you should do, this is something you have to decide on your own. The only thing I can advice (according to my own experience in the last months) is... take you time to decide, then (no matter which decission you take) do it being consequent with it and don't looking back. Good luck :rose::thumbsup:

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                  I am in the middle of a job switch right now. I have been almost 7 years in this company. I was not so good paid as in other places and it was very stressfull from time to time (industry automation = PLC, Robots and so on). But... the company has fully trusted me, I could manage my own time, I was allowed to handle with customers on my own (for important or very expensive matters I had to ask though), work clima was very good (all between 25 and 40 years old and with a nice team feeling), extra hours account without deadline (I even had 4 months vacations once, when my GF ended studies and we made a long asia tour). During this 7 years a customer tried to headhunt me a couple of times. I would have earned 20% or 25% more, but I was there 4 years as extern and I didn't like the clima, the ingeneers were always overloaded, flat rate hours, vacations must be consumed in the year or get lost and more and more and more I am now changing because I bought a house and got married, and my current job is 90 Km (one way) far from home. That means: I have set my highest priority to "Family". I would say, if new job gives you better quality of life and it is important to you, then it is worth the risk. Being somewhere where your evolution has a top or you are underchallenged it is not so nice. My father taught me to set an own deadline and start two lists everytime I had a very important decission to make. One with "pro's" and the other with "contra's" but always with facts trying to avoid the "what if's", fill them honestly during a time with every little aspect that comes to mind and then, when deadline comes, have a look to both lists and decide according to the lists. It has helped me a lot. It is difficult to tell you what you should do, this is something you have to decide on your own. The only thing I can advice (according to my own experience in the last months) is... take you time to decide, then (no matter which decission you take) do it being consequent with it and don't looking back. Good luck :rose::thumbsup:

                  M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                  What's wrong with people over 40?

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                    What's wrong with people over 40?

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                    I don't know. I am one. As for the first message. I try to aim for both. And have quite often hit it. More pay and a better environment. Next one might not be though.

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                      What's wrong with people over 40?

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                      Nothing, I didn't make any critic. I just told that we are all in the same age-range. And IMHO it usually is easier to connect with people that is in the same age. I actually have good friends that are older than me. But I find it more difficult to make private things out of the job enviroment when age differences are big. With my older friends I go have dinner, concerts, theater or things like that. With my younger friends I go trecking, paintball, cart-driving and other activities where the older usually say "I don't feel like doing that"

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                        Make the switch or wait and see what happens after 2-3 months.

                        Make the switch and then see what happens in the next 2-3 months. :-D

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                        CPallini wrote:

                        Make the switch and then see what happens in the next 2-3 months. :-D

                        going with this :-D

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                          CPallini wrote:

                          Make the switch and then see what happens in the next 2-3 months. :-D

                          going with this :-D

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                          :thumbsup:

                          In testa che avete, signor di Ceprano?

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