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  • B BillWoodruff

    PhilLenoir wrote:

    I posted this here because I find it hilarious. I'm amazed that anyone can find any religious of political bias in the post.

    I find this as disingenuous as the original post: are you claiming you were actually unaware that in posting a statement like this, in this Forum, that it would provoke political and religious response and debate on a forum like this ? That for some Fox News is gospel while CNN is anti-gospel, and vice-versa ? If so, how I wish I could enjoy the blessings of such naivete, for I have yet to see a sacred cow I didn't want to tip-over for the sheer joy of contrariness :)

    «What we observe is not nature itself, but nature exposed to our method of questioning» Werner Heisenberg

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    Bill, yes I am. I'm not a fan of CNN either. We Brits have a very robust sense of humour and that is exactly what I'm projecting here. This story would be tantamount to a non US news source stating something like "If you aren't openly carrying an automatic weapon and wearing an anti-government badge in Montana you'd be shot". The story was truly preposterous and well worthy of being ridiculed. It is at about the broadcast media equivalent of a National Enquirer story. That was, and still is, my perspective. I'm confused and slightly troubled that anyone should attach themselves to a media channel in the way you describe. I have no idea who made the quote "When we stop laughing, we're in trouble", but that's pretty much how I feel. I'm not suggesting that making fun of Fox is as dangerous as making fun of Islam, but there's obviously a spectrum of intolerance. My post was not a trolling attempt and your assertion that my original post and my response were disingenuous assumes facts not in evidence. I'm pretty certain that this is the first time in my life that I've been accused of such. I believe that I'm open and forthright, which does mean that I upset people from time-to-time, even though I don't go out of my way to do so. Neither am I left wing. I also love tipping at sacred cows, but I truly had no idea that anyone held Fox (or CNN) as one. Perhaps, as a naturalized Canadian I should understand the American psyche better, but clearly in this case I don't have a clue.

    Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

      It's interesting how when some incompetent news reporter on Fox News fails to properly do his/her job it's a problem with "Fox News", but when a similarly incompetent reporter on some other news organization fails to do his/her job it's a problem with that reporter, not with the news organization employing the reporter. Fail.

      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      It's a basic tenet of (good) organizations that the higher levels accept the blame for what goes wrong while passing praise for what goes right to the lower levels. (Bad organizations do it the other way around of course.)

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      • L Lost User

        Of course it's a problem with Fox News, they employ this dimwit.

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        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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        Most news organizations employ dimwits. So the question is why is Fox News singled out when they're no more or less guilty as any other organization?

        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          It's a basic tenet of (good) organizations that the higher levels accept the blame for what goes wrong while passing praise for what goes right to the lower levels. (Bad organizations do it the other way around of course.)

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          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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          Agreed. But we're talking about outside criticism here. Why the bias against FNC?

          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            Most news organizations employ dimwits. So the question is why is Fox News singled out when they're no more or less guilty as any other organization?

            If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
            You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
            Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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            TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

            why is Fox News singled out

            Because they are the channel that transmitted this guy's ridiculous comments. I am not sure why that upsets you so much.

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz wrote:

              why is Fox News singled out

              Because they are the channel that transmitted this guy's ridiculous comments. I am not sure why that upsets you so much.

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              TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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              Because nobody makes similar pronouncements ridiculing MSNBC when it broadcasts similar asinine statements by left-wingers.

              If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
              You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
              Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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              • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                Because nobody makes similar pronouncements ridiculing MSNBC when it broadcasts similar asinine statements by left-wingers.

                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                I'm sure they do.

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                • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                  Agreed. But we're talking about outside criticism here. Why the bias against FNC?

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                  What bias? One of their 'experts' made some totally stupid comments, so they are due a measure of fair criticism.

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                  • L Lost User

                    I'm sure they do.

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                    TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    • L Lost User

                      What bias? One of their 'experts' made some totally stupid comments, so they are due a measure of fair criticism.

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                      TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                      The bias comes in the form of only knocking FNC for such and also for requiring editorial intervention during live TV.

                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                      • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                        The bias comes in the form of only knocking FNC for such and also for requiring editorial intervention during live TV.

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                        And I say again: how is that bias? It is justified criticism, based on facts.

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                          And I say again: how is that bias? It is justified criticism, based on facts.

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                          TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                          Oh, good grief. :rolleyes:

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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