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  • L Leng Vang

    Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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    Marc Clifton
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    Funny, I was just about to grumble about how Toggl is offline. If I were using a local time tracker, this wouldn't be a problem!!!

    Leng Vang wrote:

    It must be just me.

    I doubt that. :) Marc

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    • L Leng Vang

      Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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      Leng Vang wrote:

      It must be just me.

      Nope. I can't think of a better way to do things than to hand all your data over to the lowest bidder to look after, to backup, to not steal, and to protect from everybody else. It's like the world is trying to go back to the "mainframe" model that we worked so hard to get away from when the PC became main-stream...

      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Leng Vang wrote:

        It must be just me.

        Nope. I can't think of a better way to do things than to hand all your data over to the lowest bidder to look after, to backup, to not steal, and to protect from everybody else. It's like the world is trying to go back to the "mainframe" model that we worked so hard to get away from when the PC became main-stream...

        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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        Jorgen Andersson
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        Remember the network computer? Same fad new name?

        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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        • L Leng Vang

          Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          Not just you, it's just a new buzzword for outsourcing.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            Remember the network computer? Same fad new name?

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            OriginalGriff
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            Similar - but at least with the NC you kept the data in-house, and available over a fast (for the time) link. And you knew who to shout at (or more usually beg to) when it went missing...try that with a data centre half a world away and run out of the back of a cyber cafe! :laugh:

            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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            • L Leng Vang

              Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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              kmoorevs
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              We live in an age where connectivity is assumed...to the point that many businesses simply cannot operate without it, especially those processing payments. The problem is that there is no offline mode in most systems, so everything stops when the connection is down. :( A long time ago, a very crooked good salesman pre-sold a 'web based' point of sale application of ours, to be delivered in 6 weeks. All work on the application, which was nearly complete, was as a desktop app. I gave them their 'web based' application on time...ActiveX on a webpage! :laugh: It even had a built in offline mode! The customer never questioned it...to them, it loaded in a web page, and so was 'web based'.

              "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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              • L Leng Vang

                Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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                Slacker007
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                People have been saving data on servers since the beginning of servers. Cloud is a fancy term for servers/server farms. So, you have been at risk since day one.

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                • L Leng Vang

                  Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  Leng Vang wrote:

                  government

                  They not in that businesses...I know of government projects where no internet and the networking between sites is done over protected, private lines...So no cloud there and there will not be...

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  • L Leng Vang

                    Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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                    Lost User
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                    Leng Vang wrote:

                    I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data.

                    Imagine what could have happened if a goverment had unrestricted access to digital communication and could outlaw encryption, say, in Europe, roughly sixty years ago? Again, it is not about the situation now - we now obviously have trustworthy politicians - it is about what can (and eventually, somewhere, will) happen. And sadly quite often, wartime changes the rules of what is private and what is required to win.

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                    • L Leng Vang

                      Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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                      PhilLenoir
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                      It's just another tool in our arsenal. ... and like all "new" technology tools, it becomes the new "new" thing. Market analysts and CIO's drink the Kool Aid and go in to rapture, consultants jump on the gravy train and our worlds become a little more chaotic for a while. Linux was going to be the end of MS, Netflix was going to be the end of movie theatres, ... way to many examples to list, but you get the drift. After a while there's a collective shaking of heads, sense is (somewhat) restored and we get on with doing what we do. We might even find the new tool appropriately useful and start using it. ... and, of course, if it isn't new, give it a new, catchy name!

                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                        Leng Vang wrote:

                        government

                        They not in that businesses...I know of government projects where no internet and the networking between sites is done over protected, private lines...So no cloud there and there will not be...

                        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                        Nelek
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                        Secret Service? NSA? MI6? :confused::confused:

                        M.D.V. ;) If something has a solution... Why do we have to worry about?. If it has no solution... For what reason do we have to worry about? Help me to understand what I'm saying, and I'll explain it better to you Rating helpful answers is nice, but saying thanks can be even nicer.

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                        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                          Similar - but at least with the NC you kept the data in-house, and available over a fast (for the time) link. And you knew who to shout at (or more usually beg to) when it went missing...try that with a data centre half a world away and run out of the back of a cyber cafe! :laugh:

                          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                          Mycroft Holmes
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                          I remember the "thin client" period... in my nightmares. Citrix lives in my personal shit pit along with lotus, synamtec and quite a few others.

                          Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                            Leng Vang wrote:

                            It must be just me.

                            Nope. I can't think of a better way to do things than to hand all your data over to the lowest bidder to look after, to backup, to not steal, and to protect from everybody else. It's like the world is trying to go back to the "mainframe" model that we worked so hard to get away from when the PC became main-stream...

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            OriginalGriff wrote:

                            It's like the world is trying to go back to the "mainframe" model that we worked so hard to get away from when the PC became main-stream...

                            And Windows 8 is a big step back in the direction of the dumb terminal...

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            • L Leng Vang

                              Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              Could be that I agree with you[^].

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              • L Leng Vang

                                Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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                                Member 10707677
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                                Might I suggest a distinction between Cloud Storage and Cloud Computing. Cloud computing is the technology used by SETI and similar organisations in performing analysis of data that would tie up a dozen Cray computers for over a year. Cloud storage is the volume of file servers offered by Google, et al for filing those documents that will be forgotten until the next millennium.

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                                • P PhilLenoir

                                  It's just another tool in our arsenal. ... and like all "new" technology tools, it becomes the new "new" thing. Market analysts and CIO's drink the Kool Aid and go in to rapture, consultants jump on the gravy train and our worlds become a little more chaotic for a while. Linux was going to be the end of MS, Netflix was going to be the end of movie theatres, ... way to many examples to list, but you get the drift. After a while there's a collective shaking of heads, sense is (somewhat) restored and we get on with doing what we do. We might even find the new tool appropriately useful and start using it. ... and, of course, if it isn't new, give it a new, catchy name!

                                  Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

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                                  Quirkafleeg
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                                  Here, I corrected your "mistakes" for you:

                                  PhilLenoir wrote:

                                  It's just another buzzword in management's arsenal.

                                  Fixed! :-D

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                                  • L Leng Vang

                                    Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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                                    Simon ORiordan from UK
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                                    Think of it as just another back up. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

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                                    • L Leng Vang

                                      Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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                                      Tomz_KV
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                                      Hardware and software failure are also a concern. http://azure.microsoft.com/blog/2014/11/19/update-on-azure-storage-service-interruption/[^]

                                      TOMZ_KV

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                                      • S Simon ORiordan from UK

                                        Think of it as just another back up. Don't put all your eggs in one basket.

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                                        Gary Strunk
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                                        And don't store any of those "private" selfies with your data.

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                                        • L Leng Vang

                                          Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

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                                          Bruce Patin
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                                          No one mentioned the nebulous feeling you get, as if everything is up in the air.

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