Skip to content
  • Categories
  • Recent
  • Tags
  • Popular
  • World
  • Users
  • Groups
Skins
  • Light
  • Cerulean
  • Cosmo
  • Flatly
  • Journal
  • Litera
  • Lumen
  • Lux
  • Materia
  • Minty
  • Morph
  • Pulse
  • Sandstone
  • Simplex
  • Sketchy
  • Spacelab
  • United
  • Yeti
  • Zephyr
  • Dark
  • Cyborg
  • Darkly
  • Quartz
  • Slate
  • Solar
  • Superhero
  • Vapor

  • Default (No Skin)
  • No Skin
Collapse
Code Project
  1. Home
  2. The Lounge
  3. "Cloud computing" make me cringe.

"Cloud computing" make me cringe.

Scheduled Pinned Locked Moved The Lounge
hostingcloudsecurity
42 Posts 28 Posters 0 Views 1 Watching
  • Oldest to Newest
  • Newest to Oldest
  • Most Votes
Reply
  • Reply as topic
Log in to reply
This topic has been deleted. Only users with topic management privileges can see it.
  • L Leng Vang

    Well, I'm in the federal government and most of our stuff are on the cloud.

    Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Offline
    Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Offline
    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
    wrote on last edited by
    #33

    Like details of cops and so? I doubt that...

    Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

    "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

    1 Reply Last reply
    0
    • G Gary Strunk

      And don't store any of those "private" selfies with your data.

      S Offline
      S Offline
      Simon ORiordan from UK
      wrote on last edited by
      #34

      I guess I'm just the caring, sharing type. :-D

      1 Reply Last reply
      0
      • J Josh_T

        Streaming services are doing a pretty darn good job of reducing traditional movie theatre traffic.

        P Offline
        P Offline
        PhilLenoir
        wrote on last edited by
        #35

        No movie theatres have closed in this area!

        Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

        J 1 Reply Last reply
        0
        • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

          Leng Vang wrote:

          It must be just me.

          Nope. I can't think of a better way to do things than to hand all your data over to the lowest bidder to look after, to backup, to not steal, and to protect from everybody else. It's like the world is trying to go back to the "mainframe" model that we worked so hard to get away from when the PC became main-stream...

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

          B Offline
          B Offline
          BrainiacV
          wrote on last edited by
          #36

          OriginalGriff wrote:

          I can't think of a better way to do things than to hand all your data over to the lowest bidder to look after, to backup, to not steal, and to protect from everybody else.

          I once made myself unpopular with management when they were announcing some data entry outsourcing to another country. I asked, "How will we know our data is safe?" They said, "It will be spelled out in the contracts." I asked, "Under whose country will the contract be enforced?" They had no answer. Cloud could have the same problem.

          Psychosis at 10 Film at 11 Those who do not remember the past, are doomed to repeat it. Those who do not remember the past, cannot build upon it.

          1 Reply Last reply
          0
          • L Leng Vang

            Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

            P Offline
            P Offline
            Peter Shaw
            wrote on last edited by
            #37

            and no one has yet mentioned the rules that where passed in congress in the US and what they allow the FBI to do? hmmmm :-) Just have a little bit of a Google, oh and look up the entire story behind why many users didn't get their servers back in the kim.com raid. It's rather interesting. ;-)

            1 Reply Last reply
            0
            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Leng Vang wrote:

              It must be just me.

              Nope. I can't think of a better way to do things than to hand all your data over to the lowest bidder to look after, to backup, to not steal, and to protect from everybody else. It's like the world is trying to go back to the "mainframe" model that we worked so hard to get away from when the PC became main-stream...

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

              G Offline
              G Offline
              Gary R Wheeler
              wrote on last edited by
              #38

              OriginalGriff wrote:

              It's like the world is trying to go back to the "mainframe" model that we worked so hard to get away from when the PC became main-stream

              I spy with my little eye: an IBM conspiracy.

              Software Zen: delete this;

              1 Reply Last reply
              0
              • L Leng Vang

                Companies and government entities all thinking or gone to the cloud, but it gives me an uneasy feeling, perhaps fear of privacy breach, whenever I hear cloud computing. I can trust the security technology but I just don't trust the people handling my data. It must be just me.

                M Offline
                M Offline
                moonwalker72067
                wrote on last edited by
                #39

                Hehe. Totally agree. These people are someone you'll never meet IRL. Even if they are scrutinizing your life day by day.

                1 Reply Last reply
                0
                • S Slacker007

                  People have been saving data on servers since the beginning of servers. Cloud is a fancy term for servers/server farms. So, you have been at risk since day one.

                  M Offline
                  M Offline
                  MSHYYC
                  wrote on last edited by
                  #40

                  Slacker007 wrote:

                  Cloud is a fancy term for servers/server farms.

                  Not exactly. Cloud is a fancy term for virtualization. The difference between a cloud and "just a bunch of servers" is similar to the difference between RAID or VFS and "just a bunch of disks". In a "non-cloud" data centre computing services are bound to specific physical hardware--you have a physical box that is a file server, another box that does email, another to run the website and so forth. You could consolidate these all on a single physical box but there would be scalability issues as well as stability, as the various services could interfere with the operations of others--there is a lack of isolation. "Cloudy" data centres take the concept of RAID or virtual file systems in storage and extend that to the server level. Just like where you have one file system that spans multiple disks and the data could be on any one (or more) of the physical drives, in the cloud you can have a virtual machine or container that handles the delivery of services within its own isolated environment that could be stored or executed in any physical location. The benefits in efficiency and reliability and control over resources can be enormous. Now that said, I hate the term "Cloud"--it is a buzzword for a modern approach to something that has actually been done since the mainframe days. I also think that the larger "public cloud" services are ruining the internet. Actually all very large services damage the internet. Facebook is ruining the internet by centralizing social media for example. I think there is a problem with companies avoiding responsibility by farming out their IT to Google, Microsoft and so on. Yes, for a small business, farming this out is justified. For a company employing hundreds or more it is irresponsible. Go ahead and leverage virtualization, but don't lock yourself into Google or Microsoft or whatever service and ignore plans to bring it in house, or at least co-locate somewhere within your control. If too many people pass their responsibility to too few of these big public services it is a recipe for disaster.

                  S 1 Reply Last reply
                  0
                  • M MSHYYC

                    Slacker007 wrote:

                    Cloud is a fancy term for servers/server farms.

                    Not exactly. Cloud is a fancy term for virtualization. The difference between a cloud and "just a bunch of servers" is similar to the difference between RAID or VFS and "just a bunch of disks". In a "non-cloud" data centre computing services are bound to specific physical hardware--you have a physical box that is a file server, another box that does email, another to run the website and so forth. You could consolidate these all on a single physical box but there would be scalability issues as well as stability, as the various services could interfere with the operations of others--there is a lack of isolation. "Cloudy" data centres take the concept of RAID or virtual file systems in storage and extend that to the server level. Just like where you have one file system that spans multiple disks and the data could be on any one (or more) of the physical drives, in the cloud you can have a virtual machine or container that handles the delivery of services within its own isolated environment that could be stored or executed in any physical location. The benefits in efficiency and reliability and control over resources can be enormous. Now that said, I hate the term "Cloud"--it is a buzzword for a modern approach to something that has actually been done since the mainframe days. I also think that the larger "public cloud" services are ruining the internet. Actually all very large services damage the internet. Facebook is ruining the internet by centralizing social media for example. I think there is a problem with companies avoiding responsibility by farming out their IT to Google, Microsoft and so on. Yes, for a small business, farming this out is justified. For a company employing hundreds or more it is irresponsible. Go ahead and leverage virtualization, but don't lock yourself into Google or Microsoft or whatever service and ignore plans to bring it in house, or at least co-locate somewhere within your control. If too many people pass their responsibility to too few of these big public services it is a recipe for disaster.

                    S Offline
                    S Offline
                    Slacker007
                    wrote on last edited by
                    #41

                    Good to know and thanks for the education. I bookmarked this because it is a good explanation. :thumbsup:

                    1 Reply Last reply
                    0
                    • P PhilLenoir

                      No movie theatres have closed in this area!

                      Life is like a s**t sandwich; the more bread you have, the less s**t you eat.

                      J Offline
                      J Offline
                      Josh_T
                      wrote on last edited by
                      #42

                      The city where I was born, and the sister city across a river, lost 2 theaters in the last decade. One, part of a larger corporate theater chain, got refurbished.

                      1 Reply Last reply
                      0
                      Reply
                      • Reply as topic
                      Log in to reply
                      • Oldest to Newest
                      • Newest to Oldest
                      • Most Votes


                      • Login

                      • Don't have an account? Register

                      • Login or register to search.
                      • First post
                        Last post
                      0
                      • Categories
                      • Recent
                      • Tags
                      • Popular
                      • World
                      • Users
                      • Groups