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Objective, but how subjective?

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  • L Lost User

    New here. Just curious about how: - A member gets designated as Professional, - A member gets awarded as MVP. Seeing individuals who have around 10,000 points having the "Professional" icon next to their names; whereas I see others having more than three times those points as ordinary members. Also, saw the recent episode involving an MVP. If someone aspires to become a Professional, and ultimately an MVP (perhaps a 5-year plan or 10-years?), is there a designated path (straightforward, difficult, involving quite some effort), for that? Saw this[^], and a few other pages, but not sure if I found something. If there is, please point out. Brings me back to the title - is there any element of subjectivity here?

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    _Damian S_
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    Professional is the designation given for completing all of the profile information in your member profile. MVP is explained in detail elsewhere, but is essentially the best people from article writing and answering questions etc over the previous 12 months.

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    • L Lost User

      New here. Just curious about how: - A member gets designated as Professional, - A member gets awarded as MVP. Seeing individuals who have around 10,000 points having the "Professional" icon next to their names; whereas I see others having more than three times those points as ordinary members. Also, saw the recent episode involving an MVP. If someone aspires to become a Professional, and ultimately an MVP (perhaps a 5-year plan or 10-years?), is there a designated path (straightforward, difficult, involving quite some effort), for that? Saw this[^], and a few other pages, but not sure if I found something. If there is, please point out. Brings me back to the title - is there any element of subjectivity here?

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      PIEBALDconsult
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      Gifts. You should consider perusing Sean's Amazon wish list for appropriate ideas.

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        Gifts. You should consider perusing Sean's Amazon wish list for appropriate ideas.

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        Lost User
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        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

        consider perusing Sean's Amazon wish list

        I started, but frankly couldn't keep on looking! That boy is one sick puppy!

        PooperPig - Coming Soon

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        • P PIEBALDconsult

          Gifts. You should consider perusing Sean's Amazon wish list for appropriate ideas.

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          Tassels? :~

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          • L Lost User

            New here. Just curious about how: - A member gets designated as Professional, - A member gets awarded as MVP. Seeing individuals who have around 10,000 points having the "Professional" icon next to their names; whereas I see others having more than three times those points as ordinary members. Also, saw the recent episode involving an MVP. If someone aspires to become a Professional, and ultimately an MVP (perhaps a 5-year plan or 10-years?), is there a designated path (straightforward, difficult, involving quite some effort), for that? Saw this[^], and a few other pages, but not sure if I found something. If there is, please point out. Brings me back to the title - is there any element of subjectivity here?

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Also be aware that the Lounge will get you some very skewed answers. The only award really of significance is the MVP and you get for exactly what it stands for, valued by the site, answer lots of silly questions without calling the questioner a bloody idiot. Contribute articles that are not copy/paste from MSDN. Rep points are irrelevant to this award, and anything else really. They apparently are good for stroking some egos. And I still think the bunny suit with translucent patches is going too far, stink to the mankini.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            • L Lost User

              PIEBALDconsult wrote:

              consider perusing Sean's Amazon wish list

              I started, but frankly couldn't keep on looking! That boy is one sick puppy!

              PooperPig - Coming Soon

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              Pete OHanlon
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              _Maxxx_ wrote:

              That boy is one sick puppy

              Funnily enough, he has that as a wish on page 3 of his list.

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              • M Mycroft Holmes

                Also be aware that the Lounge will get you some very skewed answers. The only award really of significance is the MVP and you get for exactly what it stands for, valued by the site, answer lots of silly questions without calling the questioner a bloody idiot. Contribute articles that are not copy/paste from MSDN. Rep points are irrelevant to this award, and anything else really. They apparently are good for stroking some egos. And I still think the bunny suit with translucent patches is going too far, stink to the mankini.

                Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                Rage
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                Isn't the MVP status computed ? So rep points do have some influence at some points.

                ~RaGE();

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                  Isn't the MVP status computed ? So rep points do have some influence at some points.

                  ~RaGE();

                  I think words like 'destiny' are a way of trying to find order where none exists. - Christian Graus Entropy isn't what it used to.

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                  Mycroft Holmes
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                  I'd be surprised if it is a relevant factor, I would guess it may be a factor in winnowing down the dross and the Q&A/forum points would definitely count so I guess you are right.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                    Also be aware that the Lounge will get you some very skewed answers. The only award really of significance is the MVP and you get for exactly what it stands for, valued by the site, answer lots of silly questions without calling the questioner a bloody idiot. Contribute articles that are not copy/paste from MSDN. Rep points are irrelevant to this award, and anything else really. They apparently are good for stroking some egos. And I still think the bunny suit with translucent patches is going too far, stink to the mankini.

                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                    GuyThiebaut
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                    Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                    answer lots of silly questions

                    Yeah! :-D

                    Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                    without calling the questioner a bloody idiot.

                    Ohhh :(

                    “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                    ― Christopher Hitchens

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                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                      Also be aware that the Lounge will get you some very skewed answers. The only award really of significance is the MVP and you get for exactly what it stands for, valued by the site, answer lots of silly questions without calling the questioner a bloody idiot. Contribute articles that are not copy/paste from MSDN. Rep points are irrelevant to this award, and anything else really. They apparently are good for stroking some egos. And I still think the bunny suit with translucent patches is going too far, stink to the mankini.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      Nagy Vilmos
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                      Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                      answer lots of silly questions without calling the questioner a bloody idiot.

                      That can't be right, otherwise how do you explain his MVP?

                      veni bibi saltavi

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                      • G GuyThiebaut

                        Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                        answer lots of silly questions

                        Yeah! :-D

                        Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                        without calling the questioner a bloody idiot.

                        Ohhh :(

                        “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                        ― Christopher Hitchens

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                        Agent__007
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                        I must admit that made me laugh. :laugh: :thumbsup:

                        Your time will come, if you let it be right.

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                          I must admit that made me laugh. :laugh: :thumbsup:

                          Your time will come, if you let it be right.

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                          GuyThiebaut
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                          It's probably why I am not yet ruler of the universe, in terms of job hierarchy, I can be quite good at the first and second.

                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

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                          • N Nagy Vilmos

                            Mycroft Holmes wrote:

                            answer lots of silly questions without calling the questioner a bloody idiot.

                            That can't be right, otherwise how do you explain his MVP?

                            veni bibi saltavi

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                            Mycroft Holmes
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                            The caveat got put in AFTER 2010!

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              The caveat got put in AFTER 2010!

                              Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                              Nagy Vilmos
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                              I disagree, he got an MVP this year again.

                              veni bibi saltavi

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                              • L Lost User

                                New here. Just curious about how: - A member gets designated as Professional, - A member gets awarded as MVP. Seeing individuals who have around 10,000 points having the "Professional" icon next to their names; whereas I see others having more than three times those points as ordinary members. Also, saw the recent episode involving an MVP. If someone aspires to become a Professional, and ultimately an MVP (perhaps a 5-year plan or 10-years?), is there a designated path (straightforward, difficult, involving quite some effort), for that? Saw this[^], and a few other pages, but not sure if I found something. If there is, please point out. Brings me back to the title - is there any element of subjectivity here?

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                                Mark_Wallace
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                                I don't know what the specific definition of "professional" is, because I imagine that most members are professionals, out in the real world. In order to be an MVP, though, I would imagine that your contributions would have to be valuable (hence the "V"), so that excludes me and my 120k points, because I only hang around the Lounge, and that doesn't exactly serve any useful purpose.

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                                • L Lost User

                                  New here. Just curious about how: - A member gets designated as Professional, - A member gets awarded as MVP. Seeing individuals who have around 10,000 points having the "Professional" icon next to their names; whereas I see others having more than three times those points as ordinary members. Also, saw the recent episode involving an MVP. If someone aspires to become a Professional, and ultimately an MVP (perhaps a 5-year plan or 10-years?), is there a designated path (straightforward, difficult, involving quite some effort), for that? Saw this[^], and a few other pages, but not sure if I found something. If there is, please point out. Brings me back to the title - is there any element of subjectivity here?

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Thanks for all your replies. So, a 'Professional' is one does not hide his/her contact details from CodeProject. However, regarding subjectivity for MVP, any comment? Because somehow got the feeling that the 'momentum' from previous years sometimes continues into someone retaining their MVP status. Am I correct?

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                                    Thanks for all your replies. So, a 'Professional' is one does not hide his/her contact details from CodeProject. However, regarding subjectivity for MVP, any comment? Because somehow got the feeling that the 'momentum' from previous years sometimes continues into someone retaining their MVP status. Am I correct?

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                                    Pete OHanlon
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                                    No, it doesn't. Ultimately, it all comes down to activity. Last year, a couple of authors kept their MVP status despite not having posted anything new because their articles still saw a huge amount of activity. Their articles still added value - a lot of it, and so they were rightly awarded MVP.

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                                      No, it doesn't. Ultimately, it all comes down to activity. Last year, a couple of authors kept their MVP status despite not having posted anything new because their articles still saw a huge amount of activity. Their articles still added value - a lot of it, and so they were rightly awarded MVP.

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                                      Chris Maunder
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                                      Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                      Last year, a couple of authors kept their MVP status despite not having posted anything new

                                      We changed it this year to enforce the rule that Article MVPs must have posted at least 3 articles in the previous year.

                                      cheers Chris Maunder

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        New here. Just curious about how: - A member gets designated as Professional, - A member gets awarded as MVP. Seeing individuals who have around 10,000 points having the "Professional" icon next to their names; whereas I see others having more than three times those points as ordinary members. Also, saw the recent episode involving an MVP. If someone aspires to become a Professional, and ultimately an MVP (perhaps a 5-year plan or 10-years?), is there a designated path (straightforward, difficult, involving quite some effort), for that? Saw this[^], and a few other pages, but not sure if I found something. If there is, please point out. Brings me back to the title - is there any element of subjectivity here?

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                                        Chris Maunder
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                                        Other's have answered as to how members get Professional status. It's open to anyone. MVP status is awarded once a year and is based solely on the points accrued by a member from the previous year. The award is given to 40 people: 20 for their articles, 20 for their contributions to answering questions. For those awarded for their authoring, they must have posted at least 3 articles in the previous year.

                                        cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                          Last year, a couple of authors kept their MVP status despite not having posted anything new

                                          We changed it this year to enforce the rule that Article MVPs must have posted at least 3 articles in the previous year.

                                          cheers Chris Maunder

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                                          Pete OHanlon
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                                          That's a shame - I admired the fact that we were awarding to people who were still giving even though they were no longer as active.

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