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  • D Dan Neely

    Flash chips have been doing something closer to a capacity doubling/year vs the one die shrink/two years of the CPU world. This is partly die shrinks, which had been coming faster than one/two years (admittedly a lot of this was flash catching up from being behind, but the development of 3d chips should allow another few years of this); and partly from figuring out how to stack more dies into a single package (although this more of just a density boost than a price drop). I'd expect a 1TB M.2 stick sometime this year. If you actually need a TB on your laptop now (as opposed to just wanting to match the space of an HD for the sake of doing it); I'd go with either 2xSSD and reinstall the OS if the laptop vendor RAID0's them (all the gaming laptop vendors do this; claiming their market research says that their customers want 4 way RAID0 data bombs :wtf:); or SSD+HDD. Both of those combos probably will require a 15"+ chassis if you do it from the factory. A 14" Latitude with an adapter to put an HDD in the optical drive bay's a DIY option though. (Do you really need a DVD drive on the go...)

    Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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    Tomz_KV
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    Interesting to see Latitude 14 (rugged) with 512 SSD is much more expensive. DVD drive is probably not needed anymore. I do not even remember what was the last time I used it on my current laptop.

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      I have a (refurbished) Dell Precision M6500. They make versions of this through i7 and even my bottom-of-the-line has two HHD's and a lovely 17" screen. They're more or less referred to as a portable work station. It's only flaw (if 8.5lbs doesn't count) is that it sucks the batteries at an amazing rate. On the other hand, the charge will refill them pretty quickly, too.

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Tomz_KV
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      A laptop and a work station are good idea to consider.

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      • T Tomz_KV

        Interesting to see Latitude 14 (rugged) with 512 SSD is much more expensive. DVD drive is probably not needed anymore. I do not even remember what was the last time I used it on my current laptop.

        TOMZ_KV

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        Dan Neely
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        Ruggedization itself is several hundred dollars extra on top of Latitudes having a higher base price for being built with magnesium instead of plastic for the chassis. Unless you normally bust your laptops or are planning on doing a lot of rough fieldwork with it, the rugged models are almost certainly more than you need.

        Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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        • Y Yvan Rodrigues

          AMEN! SSD has done more for PC performance than anything I can remember, and I've been playing with these things for 30+ years

          Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          I can second that too.

          Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

          30+ years

          Who's that on your profile picture? Or do you have a secret to share?

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          • J Jorgen Andersson

            I can second that too.

            Yvan Rodrigues wrote:

            30+ years

            Who's that on your profile picture? Or do you have a secret to share?

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            Yvan Rodrigues
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            That's me... circa 2012. I'm a '74 model. Good genes.

            Yvan Rodrigues, C.Tech. Red Cell Innovation Inc.

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            • T Tomz_KV

              I've been using Laptops for the last several years. It is relatively slow. This one has 16G ram. I wish it can have more. But from Dell site, I did not see an option for more.

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              peterchen
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              Rest of the spec looks good, but throw in a dedicated SSD for OS and as build drive. "Hybrid" helps but doesn't cut the cheese.

              ORDER BY what user wants

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              • T Tomz_KV

                Has anyone used Dell Inspiron 17 7000 Series Touch http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-17-7737/pd?oc=fncwj1904h&model_id=inspiron-17-7737[^] for a dev box? I need a new box. Any suggestions?

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                stoneyowl2
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                I generally use an MSI G70 Steath laptop with all SSD drives (1.5TB) for travel (rollaround computer case), and a Gigabyte Brix Pro attached to the back of a monitor with 1.5TB SSDs for desk top work. Both of which are somewhat pricey.

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                • T Tomz_KV

                  Has anyone used Dell Inspiron 17 7000 Series Touch http://www.dell.com/us/p/inspiron-17-7737/pd?oc=fncwj1904h&model_id=inspiron-17-7737[^] for a dev box? I need a new box. Any suggestions?

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                  TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                  Tomz_KV wrote:

                  I need a new box.

                  That's what she said. :wtf: :omg: :~

                  If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                  You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                  Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                    Tomz_KV wrote:

                    I need a new box.

                    That's what she said. :wtf: :omg: :~

                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                    Tomz_KV
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                    I know it is a joke. But I do not know it. Who is she?

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                      I generally use an MSI G70 Steath laptop with all SSD drives (1.5TB) for travel (rollaround computer case), and a Gigabyte Brix Pro attached to the back of a monitor with 1.5TB SSDs for desk top work. Both of which are somewhat pricey.

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                      Tomz_KV
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                      I did not find a way to customize a computer on MSI.com. Did you install the SSDs yourself?

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                      • T Tomz_KV

                        I know it is a joke. But I do not know it. Who is she?

                        TOMZ_KV

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                        TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                        Any "she" you'd like. Take anything someone says (or part of it) and say "That's what she said." It can sometimes be very hilarious and usually in a sexual way. :-D

                        If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                        You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                        Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                        • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                          Any "she" you'd like. Take anything someone says (or part of it) and say "That's what she said." It can sometimes be very hilarious and usually in a sexual way. :-D

                          If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                          You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                          Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                          Tomz_KV
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                          :laugh:

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                          • T Tomz_KV

                            So there is no possibility for anything bigger than 512G for a while.

                            TOMZ_KV

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                            Dan Neely
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                            I seem to've spoken too soon. Dell's offering at least one model with a 1TB mSATA drive. It's the same approximate size as M.2; but using the slower sata bus instead of (optionally) PCIe. http://anandtech.com/show/8934/dell-updates-ultrabook-thin-m3800-mobile-workstation-with-4k-display[^]

                            Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                            • D Dan Neely

                              I seem to've spoken too soon. Dell's offering at least one model with a 1TB mSATA drive. It's the same approximate size as M.2; but using the slower sata bus instead of (optionally) PCIe. http://anandtech.com/show/8934/dell-updates-ultrabook-thin-m3800-mobile-workstation-with-4k-display[^]

                              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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                              Tomz_KV
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                              Thanks for the info. I have decided to go with this model. Unfortunately, budget does not allow me to have a SSD which would be $700 more.

                              TOMZ_KV

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                              • T Tomz_KV

                                I did not find a way to customize a computer on MSI.com. Did you install the SSDs yourself?

                                TOMZ_KV

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                                stoneyowl2
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                                The primary (C drive) is already an SSD. I pulled the 1 TB secondary drive and replaced it with the 1 TB SSD myself.

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