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  • R R Giskard Reventlov

    About what?

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    jibalt
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    You're certainly no Einstein if you can't figure it out ... but that was already obvious.

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      You're certainly no Einstein if you can't figure it out ... but that was already obvious.

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      Probably. :(

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      • J Jeremy Falcon

        While we're on the subject of code reviews, what do you guys think about sloppy code that's not formatted well? I tend to not think I'm that anal retentive, but I admit the poindexter comes out when I see sloppy code that's not kept up to a proper margin, not indented decently, old commented code left in, etc. Oddly enough, the coders that write messy code tend to also have messy cars and homes. It's gross.

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        Ravi Bhavnani
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        Jeremy Falcon wrote:

        what do you guys think about sloppy code that's not formatted well?

        I don't think much of it.  IMHO code should be formatted so that its intent is clear.  While I prefer the K&R style, I'm not picky as long as the style is readable. /ravi

        My new year resolution: 2048 x 1536 Home | Articles | My .NET bits | Freeware ravib(at)ravib(dot)com

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        • R R Giskard Reventlov

          However awful my code might be, at least it's properly formatted... :-) I agree with you; it's the same when I interview a developer that turns up looking like a homeless person: if you can't be bothered to take care of yourself, why would I believe that you'd be any different with your attitude to coding?

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          JesperMadsen123
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          Use a tool for codeformatting, make sure to run it before you commit your code, or make your editor format your code. Codeformatting "by hand" is waste and should be eliminated.

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            Use a tool for codeformatting, make sure to run it before you commit your code, or make your editor format your code. Codeformatting "by hand" is waste and should be eliminated.

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            R Giskard Reventlov
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            I do that to other people's code. :-)

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            • R R Giskard Reventlov

              I do that to other people's code. :-)

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              Adam Tibi
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              When you do that: - It seems in the source control that you modified the source code - It looks insulting for the other developer (the one who originally wrote the code) If you can't agree in a friendly conversation on one style of code, then you have more important problems to tackle in the team.

              Make it simple, as simple as possible, but not simpler.

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                It's so easy to format your code properly... Ctrl + K, Ctrl + D (in Visual Studio anyway). It doesn't delete white spaces, but it does quite a bit for you. I'm amazed at how much badly formatted code I still see! And in my experience if the code is poorly formatted it's poorly written. Comments are as bad, or worse...

                // Create a new person
                Person p = new Person();

                NO, REALLY!? Arghhh! And I actually see those kinds of comments... Another thing I can't stand is copy-paste programming. And much too often it's way too obvious. The following is some production code I've had the 'pleasure' of working with (it was an obvious comment that was copy-pasted, but not edited with the code).

                // Save the customer
                product.Save();

                I looked at it and screamed in disgust "OH LORD, WHY DO YOU HATE ME SO!? :(( "

                My blog[^]

                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                {
                public void DoWork()
                {
                throw new NotSupportedException();
                }
                }

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                Adam Tibi
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                I always jokingly tease the developer who added the comment.

                Make it simple, as simple as possible, but not simpler.

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                • A Adam Tibi

                  When you do that: - It seems in the source control that you modified the source code - It looks insulting for the other developer (the one who originally wrote the code) If you can't agree in a friendly conversation on one style of code, then you have more important problems to tackle in the team.

                  Make it simple, as simple as possible, but not simpler.

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                  R Giskard Reventlov
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                  Adam Tibi wrote:

                  It seems in the source control that you modified the source code

                  Indeed.

                  Adam Tibi wrote:

                  It looks insulting for the other developer (the one who originally wrote the code)

                  Then they should have done it right the first time. Seriously, if you're insulted because I tell you to format the code according to our agreed upon standards, then you're working in the wrong place.

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                  • J Jeremy Falcon

                    While we're on the subject of code reviews, what do you guys think about sloppy code that's not formatted well? I tend to not think I'm that anal retentive, but I admit the poindexter comes out when I see sloppy code that's not kept up to a proper margin, not indented decently, old commented code left in, etc. Oddly enough, the coders that write messy code tend to also have messy cars and homes. It's gross.

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                    TNCaver
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                    Have you ever seen pictures of Einstein's office?

                    If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                    • T TNCaver

                      Have you ever seen pictures of Einstein's office?

                      If you think 'goto' is evil, try writing an Assembly program without JMP.

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                      Jeremy Falcon
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                      Touché!

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