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    Pete OHanlon
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    So, yesterday was the deadline for filling in the Self Assessment tax returns for last year here in the UK. Took me about 30 minutes to fill it in primarily because it said they owe me some money and I spent 20 minutes rechecking the figures. This is the first year in 20 years of filling them in that they have ever owed me money.

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      So, yesterday was the deadline for filling in the Self Assessment tax returns for last year here in the UK. Took me about 30 minutes to fill it in primarily because it said they owe me some money and I spent 20 minutes rechecking the figures. This is the first year in 20 years of filling them in that they have ever owed me money.

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      Only 30 minutes - I have a month to fill the papers, but I try to get the mood for a 3 hour, online session, which at the end will provide me with an endless printout (about 20 pages), that I will have to deliver personally!!!

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        Only 30 minutes - I have a month to fill the papers, but I try to get the mood for a 3 hour, online session, which at the end will provide me with an endless printout (about 20 pages), that I will have to deliver personally!!!

        Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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        Kenneth Haugland
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        Don't you have internet there? We do it all online, in fact they prefer not to send you any letters. And if you don't change anything you don't have to think about it, as they get the payments from you employer and the money/stocks from the bank. I rented out my house for some years, that took me about 3 mins extra to fill in online.

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          So, yesterday was the deadline for filling in the Self Assessment tax returns for last year here in the UK. Took me about 30 minutes to fill it in primarily because it said they owe me some money and I spent 20 minutes rechecking the figures. This is the first year in 20 years of filling them in that they have ever owed me money.

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          Probably as there's a general election in a few months... ;P

          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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            Don't you have internet there? We do it all online, in fact they prefer not to send you any letters. And if you don't change anything you don't have to think about it, as they get the payments from you employer and the money/stocks from the bank. I rented out my house for some years, that took me about 3 mins extra to fill in online.

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            Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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            That's the most 'funny' part of it! I do fill the form online, but at the end I have to fill a real paper form, and print the online form, and add all the mentioned documents I already scanned and attached to the online form, and put all this in a special (large size) envelop with my number on ,and go the the office and hand over the package...A freaking experience every year...

            Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

            "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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              Probably as there's a general election in a few months... ;P

              How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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              Kenneth Haugland
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              I thought you had to send all your money to Scotland nowadays.

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              • Kornfeld Eliyahu PeterK Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter

                That's the most 'funny' part of it! I do fill the form online, but at the end I have to fill a real paper form, and print the online form, and add all the mentioned documents I already scanned and attached to the online form, and put all this in a special (large size) envelop with my number on ,and go the the office and hand over the package...A freaking experience every year...

                Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

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                Kenneth Haugland
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                On the plus side I guess It create jobs :sigh:

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                  So, yesterday was the deadline for filling in the Self Assessment tax returns for last year here in the UK. Took me about 30 minutes to fill it in primarily because it said they owe me some money and I spent 20 minutes rechecking the figures. This is the first year in 20 years of filling them in that they have ever owed me money.

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                  It's all about how well you record things during the year. Keep on top of that (and if you don't, you don't know who owes you what anyway) and it's relatively easy. An adherent of the "big pile of paper" school of filing will be tearing his hair out... :laugh:

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                    I thought you had to send all your money to Scotland nowadays.

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                    You know, I'd actually prefer it to end up in Scotland rather than where a lot of it actually ends up :doh:

                    How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                      So, yesterday was the deadline for filling in the Self Assessment tax returns for last year here in the UK. Took me about 30 minutes to fill it in primarily because it said they owe me some money and I spent 20 minutes rechecking the figures. This is the first year in 20 years of filling them in that they have ever owed me money.

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                      I get a (modest) refund nearly every year. ;)

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                        I get a (modest) refund nearly every year. ;)

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                        I run a business. HMRC tends to like pillaging small business owners.

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                          I get a (modest) refund nearly every year. ;)

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                          I didn't know you were an MP... ;)

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                            I run a business. HMRC tends to like pillaging small business owners.

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                            While leaving the big ones well alone... :sigh:

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                              While leaving the big ones well alone... :sigh:

                              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                              Kenneth Haugland
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                              They have hired people that only deals with this, full time. Including lobbying to politicians.

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                                I run a business. HMRC tends to like pillaging small business owners.

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                                I guess your turnover is not large enough to exempt you from all taxes. :(

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                                  So, yesterday was the deadline for filling in the Self Assessment tax returns for last year here in the UK. Took me about 30 minutes to fill it in primarily because it said they owe me some money and I spent 20 minutes rechecking the figures. This is the first year in 20 years of filling them in that they have ever owed me money.

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                                  There's a glitch in the Matrix.

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                                    So, yesterday was the deadline for filling in the Self Assessment tax returns for last year here in the UK. Took me about 30 minutes to fill it in primarily because it said they owe me some money and I spent 20 minutes rechecking the figures. This is the first year in 20 years of filling them in that they have ever owed me money.

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                                    Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                                    This is the first year in 20 years of filling them in that they have ever owed me money.

                                    Something must be wrong, somewhere. :)

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                                      There's a glitch in the Matrix.

                                      ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                                      You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                                      When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                                      Kenneth Haugland
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                                      You mean all the numbers are in green? :wtf:

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                                        So, yesterday was the deadline for filling in the Self Assessment tax returns for last year here in the UK. Took me about 30 minutes to fill it in primarily because it said they owe me some money and I spent 20 minutes rechecking the figures. This is the first year in 20 years of filling them in that they have ever owed me money.

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                                        Next year they'll decide that whatever the reason is that they owe you money does not apply to you and you'll have to pay it back with interest. That's how it goes over in the Netherlands anyway :D

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                                          I run a business. HMRC tends to like pillaging small business owners.

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                                          It's interesting to note difference in attitude I found between the Inland Revenue and Customs & Excise (HMCE) back when they were separate. One year I got a "surprise" audit from both of them about two weeks apart. C&S came first, two guys in smart suits who were very aggressive and rude in their manner. :( They demanded to see all the books and records, etc. When I offered them a cup of tea they looked at me like I was trying to bribe or distract them somehow. :mad: Their whole attitude appeared to be "You are obviously a criminal and we are here to catch you at it". :wtf: They seemed very disappointed when they found everything perfectly correct and accounted for. They left with the attitude of "You got away with it this time but only because you are a obviously a clever criminal!" :suss: and the implied threat was that they would catch me next time! The Inland Revenue man arrived next. One chap in an shabby suit who started of by apologizing for disturbing me at such short notice. He happily accepted a cup of tea :java: and a biscuit and spent some time going over the books, etc. After a while he started "tut, tutting" and tapping away on his calculator - I started to get worried - he beckoned me over and said "You have an error here..." :confused: - I started to get upset as I had always tried to keep everything squeaky clean - "...yes, yes, this is wrong..." :omg: "...yes, you didn't claim enough for these home office expenses." - :-D He then explained how I could have claimed more off my taxes for previous years and helped me fill out a form to adjust it on this year's return. He got me an extra £800 or so back from the taxman! :cool: I felt like asking him if he could come and audit me again every year! :thumbsup: I understand the days of the shabby suited man are gone now that they have been merged into HMCR. :sigh:

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