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  • H Hamid Taebi

    Is Cortan an intelligent personal assistant? really? I thought she has an online database but where is her database? she likes to lead you to the search engine Bing.

    Of one Essence is the human race thus has Creation put the base One Limb impacted is sufficient For all Others to feel the Mace (Saadi )

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    BillWoodruff
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    Cortan is Bing's girlfriend, and a lot of people at MS (the company, not the magazine) are really angry about her using a personal relationship to go through the glass-ceiling without getting cut to shreds by the glass. Particularly disturbing is the innuendo that Bing named the next Windows "Ten" after his rating of Cortan on certain criteria it is best not to mention. Do I really need to say that a lot of these people on the rumor treadmill think Cortan is not one of the brightest bulbs in the hallways of Redmond ? Rumors are running-around that Bing's wife, Bob (yes: it is what you think), is consulting a famous Seattle divorce-attorney, and may have hired the notorious private-eye who goes by the on-line handle "Clippy" to surveil Cortan. But, hey, what is a Palace without drama ?

    «I'm asked why doesn't C# implement feature X all the time. The answer's always the same: because no one ever designed, specified, implemented, tested, documented, shipped that feature. All six of those things are necessary to make a feature happen. They all cost huge amounts of time, effort and money.» Eric Lippert, Microsoft, 2009

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      Due to nazi company policies I am forced to use Bing (can access only to ~20 sites). It's not that it doesn't work, it just finds cakes for rakes.

      Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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      megaadam
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      Have you heard of this one: https://duckduckgo.com/[^] In 99% of the cases it is as goog as Goog, and it does NOT track you, and with a bit of luck the Nazis are not on to this one yet.

      Life is too shor

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        Have you heard of this one: https://duckduckgo.com/[^] In 99% of the cases it is as goog as Goog, and it does NOT track you, and with a bit of luck the Nazis are not on to this one yet.

        Life is too shor

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        They are onto everything except the allowed list of ~20 sites (5 of which are strongly political aligned newpsapers, all aligned in the same direction).

        Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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        • D den2k88

          They are onto everything except the allowed list of ~20 sites (5 of which are strongly political aligned newpsapers, all aligned in the same direction).

          Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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          megaadam
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          :suss:What is this place you are in??

          Life is too shor

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          • D den2k88

            They are onto everything except the allowed list of ~20 sites (5 of which are strongly political aligned newpsapers, all aligned in the same direction).

            Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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            Jorgen Andersson
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            How's productivity doing?

            Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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            • M megaadam

              :suss:What is this place you are in??

              Life is too shor

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              den2k88
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              Whne my boss isn't around I stick on the wall in front of my desk the panel "Arbeit macht frei". Also: it is an open space and I am right at the center of it, behind a square column, with the desk close to the wall, so in front of me there is... a wall. To both sides of the column there are two big closets that block my sight in front.

              Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                How's productivity doing?

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                den2k88
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                Low and slow. We actually have Internet access: one workstation shared between ~20 employees. Needless to say the workstation is 10 years old, has 1GB of RAM and several hundreds virusses and it may take something like 3-4 minutes to start Firefox. It is also the only workstation we can use to do remote troubleshooting on the customers, which is a service sold with every machine, and the connection is a common ADSL 640 kbps with whole 128 kbps guaranteed.

                Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                • H Hamid Taebi

                  Is Cortan an intelligent personal assistant? really? I thought she has an online database but where is her database? she likes to lead you to the search engine Bing.

                  Of one Essence is the human race thus has Creation put the base One Limb impacted is sufficient For all Others to feel the Mace (Saadi )

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                  Mike Hankey
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                  So then it's the blind leading the blind?

                  New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.0 My goal in life is to have a psychiatric disorder named after me. I'm currently unsupervised, I know it freaks me out too but the possibilities are endless.

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                  • B BillWoodruff

                    Cortan is Bing's girlfriend, and a lot of people at MS (the company, not the magazine) are really angry about her using a personal relationship to go through the glass-ceiling without getting cut to shreds by the glass. Particularly disturbing is the innuendo that Bing named the next Windows "Ten" after his rating of Cortan on certain criteria it is best not to mention. Do I really need to say that a lot of these people on the rumor treadmill think Cortan is not one of the brightest bulbs in the hallways of Redmond ? Rumors are running-around that Bing's wife, Bob (yes: it is what you think), is consulting a famous Seattle divorce-attorney, and may have hired the notorious private-eye who goes by the on-line handle "Clippy" to surveil Cortan. But, hey, what is a Palace without drama ?

                    «I'm asked why doesn't C# implement feature X all the time. The answer's always the same: because no one ever designed, specified, implemented, tested, documented, shipped that feature. All six of those things are necessary to make a feature happen. They all cost huge amounts of time, effort and money.» Eric Lippert, Microsoft, 2009

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                    Lost User
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                    I heard even Ballmer had his doubts about Cortana after a heated argument ;P

                    How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                    • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                      why on earth would Microsoft Cortana use the Microsoft search engine? that just doesn't make any sense :)

                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                      Lost User
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                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson wrote:

                      why on earth would Microsoft Cortana use the Microsoft search engine? that just doesn't make any sense

                      Somebody's got to use it ;)

                      How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                      • D den2k88

                        Low and slow. We actually have Internet access: one workstation shared between ~20 employees. Needless to say the workstation is 10 years old, has 1GB of RAM and several hundreds virusses and it may take something like 3-4 minutes to start Firefox. It is also the only workstation we can use to do remote troubleshooting on the customers, which is a service sold with every machine, and the connection is a common ADSL 640 kbps with whole 128 kbps guaranteed.

                        Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                        Jorgen Andersson
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                        :wtf:

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        • D den2k88

                          Whne my boss isn't around I stick on the wall in front of my desk the panel "Arbeit macht frei". Also: it is an open space and I am right at the center of it, behind a square column, with the desk close to the wall, so in front of me there is... a wall. To both sides of the column there are two big closets that block my sight in front.

                          Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                          megaadam
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                          I mean: what sort of place imposes such restrictions?

                          Life is too shor

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                            I mean: what sort of place imposes such restrictions?

                            Life is too shor

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                            den2k88
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                            I understood: that was an example on how we're treated. And we're lucky: a colleague of another department has been formally reprimanded because he used the toilet 4 times in a morning (she was on her monthly phase). At least in my deparment we can talk to each other... It is simply a blind management made up of drunken simians, to put it in Dilbert's words. It is a company that revenues more than 20.000.000 €/year where any expense higher than 30€ must be signed from the CEO herself. Why am I still there? The pros of the company are a hired place instead of contracting every 6-12 months, an average salary and a deep lack of interest from the management towards us: this means less problems with leaves, holidays and so on. Also the field of work is interesting and we are one of the few big companies in it, so at least the job intrigues the mind. As long as I get paid and consciously know I'm doing my best I'm satisfied.

                            Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                            • H Hamid Taebi

                              Is Cortan an intelligent personal assistant? really? I thought she has an online database but where is her database? she likes to lead you to the search engine Bing.

                              Of one Essence is the human race thus has Creation put the base One Limb impacted is sufficient For all Others to feel the Mace (Saadi )

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                              HobbyProggy
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                              Cortana is the AI of the MasterChief

                              if(this.signature != "") { MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature); } else { MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found"); }

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                              • H Hamid Taebi

                                Is Cortan an intelligent personal assistant? really? I thought she has an online database but where is her database? she likes to lead you to the search engine Bing.

                                Of one Essence is the human race thus has Creation put the base One Limb impacted is sufficient For all Others to feel the Mace (Saadi )

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                                Rob Philpott
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                                I suspect this is going to be the next big thing. After a TV advert, I asked Cortana to remind me to buy bog roll in Sainsburys, which she did albeit by the time I was at the tills. At the moment I get the impression that if you ask it for something which isn't on its rather short list of things it can do you just get sent through to Bing. I hate that. But supposedly there's big money being spent in improving the AI. I like the idea a lot of an easy to use thing that helps organize my life.

                                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                  I suspect this is going to be the next big thing. After a TV advert, I asked Cortana to remind me to buy bog roll in Sainsburys, which she did albeit by the time I was at the tills. At the moment I get the impression that if you ask it for something which isn't on its rather short list of things it can do you just get sent through to Bing. I hate that. But supposedly there's big money being spent in improving the AI. I like the idea a lot of an easy to use thing that helps organize my life.

                                  Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Rob Philpott wrote:

                                  But supposedly there's big money being spent in improving the AI.

                                  Better to spend the money improving on Real Intelligence first, then move onto the artificial one later :laugh:

                                  Rob Philpott wrote:

                                  I like the idea a lot of an easy to use thing that helps organize my life.

                                  Something between neck and sky perhaps ;P

                                  How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                    I understood: that was an example on how we're treated. And we're lucky: a colleague of another department has been formally reprimanded because he used the toilet 4 times in a morning (she was on her monthly phase). At least in my deparment we can talk to each other... It is simply a blind management made up of drunken simians, to put it in Dilbert's words. It is a company that revenues more than 20.000.000 €/year where any expense higher than 30€ must be signed from the CEO herself. Why am I still there? The pros of the company are a hired place instead of contracting every 6-12 months, an average salary and a deep lack of interest from the management towards us: this means less problems with leaves, holidays and so on. Also the field of work is interesting and we are one of the few big companies in it, so at least the job intrigues the mind. As long as I get paid and consciously know I'm doing my best I'm satisfied.

                                    Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                    megaadam
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                                    den2k88 wrote:

                                    leaves, holidays and so on.

                                    I must have a word with your boss!

                                    Life is too shor

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                                    • D den2k88

                                      Due to nazi company policies I am forced to use Bing (can access only to ~20 sites). It's not that it doesn't work, it just finds cakes for rakes.

                                      Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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                                      dandy72
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                                      den2k88 wrote:

                                      Due to nazi company policies I am forced to use Bing (can access only to ~20 sites).

                                      If you can only access 20 sites, why do you need a search engine at all?

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                                      • H Hamid Taebi

                                        Is Cortan an intelligent personal assistant? really? I thought she has an online database but where is her database? she likes to lead you to the search engine Bing.

                                        Of one Essence is the human race thus has Creation put the base One Limb impacted is sufficient For all Others to feel the Mace (Saadi )

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                                        dandy72
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                                        As far as I've been able to determine with Windows 10 9926, Cortana is cloud-backed, big-data software designed to take any user input, and then hardcoded to tell you that something went wrong and you should try again later.

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                                        • D dandy72

                                          den2k88 wrote:

                                          Due to nazi company policies I am forced to use Bing (can access only to ~20 sites).

                                          If you can only access 20 sites, why do you need a search engine at all?

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                                          den2k88
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                                          2 things: 1) Bing cache. Just don't spread the word or They'll take even that from us; 2) It's easier searching things on the workstation and then going in depth from the shared Internet station. Also, we're MS partners and almost any MS site is visible, except live.com -> I can't subscribe to MSDN, only browse it. Last thing, many bosses have full rights and many sub-bosses asked for some site, so I can access cnet and IGN (!!!) but not wikipedia (which helped me a lot for the heavy math part of the job) or google or, until 4 months ago, CodeProject and StackOverflow. I gained access to these because MSDN search points a LOT here and on SO.

                                          Geek code v 3.12 GCS d--- s-/++ a- C++++ U+++ P- L- E-- W++ N++ o+ K- w+++ O? M-- V? PS+ PE- Y+ PGP t++ 5? X R++ tv-- b+ DI+++ D++ G e++>+++ h--- r++>+++ y+++* Weapons extension: ma- k++ F+2 X

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