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  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

    Space Weevils. They nest in rocks, and obviously grouped them together to make building nests easier... [In reality it's Conservation of Momentum: when gravity collapsed the original cloud the solar system was formed from, this caused the trivial spin it started with (the average "movement" of all molecules was in one direction or the other, a "zero-average" momentum is a very unlikely case) to increase in the same way that a ballerina pulling her arms inward spins faster. Once the mass is spinning "properly" a disk forms as it's the least-energy configuration. Same thing happens with planets and moons on a smaller scale.] But I prefer the Space Weevils.

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    Nagy Vilmos
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    OriginalGriff wrote:

    But I prefer the Space Weevils Sheep.

    ftfy

    veni bibi saltavi

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      OriginalGriff wrote:

      But I prefer the Space Weevils Sheep.

      ftfy

      veni bibi saltavi

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      Sheep? Sheep don't make nests!

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      • R Rob Philpott

        My last few days have been blighted with doubts about why things often seem to happen on a flat plain in space. As I understand it, which isn't very well, the planets orbit the sun on pretty much a flat plane. I'm wondering why this is, and why shouldn't there being planets going over and under the sun rather than obediently around it. (I think Pluto may make some vein attempt at this). I suspect the reason is the same for the rings of Saturn (why not a sphere) or Galaxies apparently also being quite flat. I have a number of theories, all crap. Anyone cast some light on this?

        Regards, Rob Philpott.

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        The universe if flat and if you go too far you fall off.

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        • R Rob Philpott

          My last few days have been blighted with doubts about why things often seem to happen on a flat plain in space. As I understand it, which isn't very well, the planets orbit the sun on pretty much a flat plane. I'm wondering why this is, and why shouldn't there being planets going over and under the sun rather than obediently around it. (I think Pluto may make some vein attempt at this). I suspect the reason is the same for the rings of Saturn (why not a sphere) or Galaxies apparently also being quite flat. I have a number of theories, all crap. Anyone cast some light on this?

          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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          Mark_Wallace
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          It's like gravity, Man. The big lumps are trying to fly away from the Sun, but they're also pulling each other together, so the only way they can go is to align on a plane.

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          • K Keith Barrow

            Here you go: Why is the Solar System Flat?[^]

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            Mark_Wallace
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            That's a very cute explanation of particle collapses. Shame it's not believed to be relevant to our solar system. Lookit: if one of the big lumps of our solar system were to decide to go off in a non-planar orbit (as they have many times in the past, through collisions, etc.), the gravity of all the other, lumps whizzing past them would slowly pull them back into the plane, and also "correct" their velocities. To avoid that, they would need something to give them a drastic change in velocity. So, the rule is: If you want to jump out of the plane, take a parachute.

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            • R Rob Philpott

              My last few days have been blighted with doubts about why things often seem to happen on a flat plain in space. As I understand it, which isn't very well, the planets orbit the sun on pretty much a flat plane. I'm wondering why this is, and why shouldn't there being planets going over and under the sun rather than obediently around it. (I think Pluto may make some vein attempt at this). I suspect the reason is the same for the rings of Saturn (why not a sphere) or Galaxies apparently also being quite flat. I have a number of theories, all crap. Anyone cast some light on this?

              Regards, Rob Philpott.

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              realJSOP
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              The answer is simple. Me and Chuck Norris agreed it should be this way.

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              • D den2k88

                I only know that when I drink too much I go down flat and everything starts to orbit. :doh:

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                You are not drunk as long as you can still lie on the ground without holding onto something.

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                  The answer is simple. Me and Chuck Norris agreed it should be this way.

                  ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                  When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                  who's Chuck Norris?

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                    You are not drunk as long as you can still lie on the ground without holding onto something.

                    The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                    This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                    "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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                    If you get sufficiently drunk and lie down, you will find the room rotates instead. There is a solution to this: tie the room down. Get some rope, tie one end to the room, and the other to the only stable thing in the universe - youself. A foot is good. Now when you lie down, the room will be unable to rotate because it can't drag you round and it all stays still. Try it, it works. Important note: try to remember about the rope round your ankle before you make a trip to the loo in the dark...

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                      who's Chuck Norris?

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                      OriginalGriff
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                      He's the guy who rick-rolled Rick Astly. He's the guy who can strangle you with a cordless phone. He's the guy who invented lowercase letters - to show the capital letters who's boss.

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        He's the guy who rick-rolled Rick Astly. He's the guy who can strangle you with a cordless phone. He's the guy who invented lowercase letters - to show the capital letters who's boss.

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                        Yeah I've just googled Sounds like a raging Homosexual.

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                          Yeah I've just googled Sounds like a raging Homosexual.

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                          How do you google "sounds" like a raging homosexual? By delicately typing with a lisp?

                          ".45 ACP - because shooting twice is just silly" - JSOP, 2010
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                          You can never have too much ammo - unless you're swimming, or on fire. - JSOP, 2010
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                          When you pry the gun from my cold dead hands, be careful - the barrel will be very hot. - JSOP, 2013

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                          • R Rob Philpott

                            My last few days have been blighted with doubts about why things often seem to happen on a flat plain in space. As I understand it, which isn't very well, the planets orbit the sun on pretty much a flat plane. I'm wondering why this is, and why shouldn't there being planets going over and under the sun rather than obediently around it. (I think Pluto may make some vein attempt at this). I suspect the reason is the same for the rings of Saturn (why not a sphere) or Galaxies apparently also being quite flat. I have a number of theories, all crap. Anyone cast some light on this?

                            Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                            Which way is 'up'?

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                              The universe if flat and if you go too far you fall off.

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                              Mark_Wallace
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                              That's going too far. Toodles!

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                              • R Rob Philpott

                                My last few days have been blighted with doubts about why things often seem to happen on a flat plain in space. As I understand it, which isn't very well, the planets orbit the sun on pretty much a flat plane. I'm wondering why this is, and why shouldn't there being planets going over and under the sun rather than obediently around it. (I think Pluto may make some vein attempt at this). I suspect the reason is the same for the rings of Saturn (why not a sphere) or Galaxies apparently also being quite flat. I have a number of theories, all crap. Anyone cast some light on this?

                                Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                den2k88
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                                It looks like you're failing to undrestand the gravity of the situation. I always wear my coat, guess why?

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                                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                  If you get sufficiently drunk and lie down, you will find the room rotates instead. There is a solution to this: tie the room down. Get some rope, tie one end to the room, and the other to the only stable thing in the universe - youself. A foot is good. Now when you lie down, the room will be unable to rotate because it can't drag you round and it all stays still. Try it, it works. Important note: try to remember about the rope round your ankle before you make a trip to the loo in the dark...

                                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                  Lost User
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                                  I actually enjoyed the ride when I got home and fell into bed. :)

                                  The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                  This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                  "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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                                    I actually enjoyed the ride when I got home and fell into bed. :)

                                    The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                    This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                    "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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                                    Chris C B
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                                    MTMI :wtf:

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                                      MTMI :wtf:

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                                      No, I never did this at the Medical Technology Management Institute.

                                      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                                      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                                      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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                                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                                        If you get sufficiently drunk and lie down, you will find the room rotates instead. There is a solution to this: tie the room down. Get some rope, tie one end to the room, and the other to the only stable thing in the universe - youself. A foot is good. Now when you lie down, the room will be unable to rotate because it can't drag you round and it all stays still. Try it, it works. Important note: try to remember about the rope round your ankle before you make a trip to the loo in the dark...

                                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                                        Kenneth Haugland
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                                        Phww, you wouldn't know a planetary orbit even if you saw one from earth. :laugh: http://csep10.phys.utk.edu/astr161/lect/retrograde/aristotle.html[^]

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                                        • R Rob Philpott

                                          My last few days have been blighted with doubts about why things often seem to happen on a flat plain in space. As I understand it, which isn't very well, the planets orbit the sun on pretty much a flat plane. I'm wondering why this is, and why shouldn't there being planets going over and under the sun rather than obediently around it. (I think Pluto may make some vein attempt at this). I suspect the reason is the same for the rings of Saturn (why not a sphere) or Galaxies apparently also being quite flat. I have a number of theories, all crap. Anyone cast some light on this?

                                          Regards, Rob Philpott.

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                                          Super Lloyd
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                                          well one can imagine a bunch of planet have the stupidest orbit around their sun.. indeed one planet in our solar system is not in the same plane as the other! http://cnx.org/resources/9e49b805527d2cdca109afcb51e660a9/graphics8.png[^] However solar systems begin as cloud of dust. Motes above that plane as they cross it / fall keep hitting motes from below the plan which are going up ending up nullifying each other. And when they finally merge into planets and suns, this process has already flattened everything!!

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