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  • K Kenneth Haugland

    Well, there is a lot of research that shows that the parent doesn't have the most influence in a persons life, it is much more dependent on your peers like your friends. This makes logical sense also, after all these are the people that you are going to live and work with, and not your parents.

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    ZurdoDev
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    Kenneth Haugland wrote:

    there is a lot of research that shows that the parent doesn't have the most influence in a persons life,

    Not sure how accurate that is. There is plenty of data to support the fact that the home is the best place to learn values. Of course, with few parents at home with kids now then I'm sure you're right, peers have more influence. But it should not be that way.

    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

      there is a lot of research that shows that the parent doesn't have the most influence in a persons life,

      Not sure how accurate that is. There is plenty of data to support the fact that the home is the best place to learn values. Of course, with few parents at home with kids now then I'm sure you're right, peers have more influence. But it should not be that way.

      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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      Well, we had a series here in Norway, and if you bother to watch a Norwegian series with english subs here you go: Hjernevask[^] Its interesting though: Do children copy your dialect (assuming that you speak different then other people in your area) or the other kids dialect?

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      • K Kenneth Haugland

        Well, we had a series here in Norway, and if you bother to watch a Norwegian series with english subs here you go: Hjernevask[^] Its interesting though: Do children copy your dialect (assuming that you speak different then other people in your area) or the other kids dialect?

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        It is hard to reach final conclusions on complex systems.

        Kenneth Haugland wrote:

        Do children copy your dialect (assuming that you speak different then other people in your area) or the other kids dialect?

        Both. Copying behaviour is the first way of learning. Even if none of the kids curse - if you curse like a sailor, the kid will do the same. When older, origins of behaviour are even harder to point. As your actions are determined by fenotype and genotype, it'd simply follow that even advertisments have influence on your dialect.

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        • K Kenneth Haugland

          Well, we had a series here in Norway, and if you bother to watch a Norwegian series with english subs here you go: Hjernevask[^] Its interesting though: Do children copy your dialect (assuming that you speak different then other people in your area) or the other kids dialect?

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          Jorgen Andersson
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          That's easy enough to answer for my personal case. I'm having a pretty distinct dialect from a different part of the country than what we live in. My wife has a foreign accent. Our kids speak like the other kids.

          Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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          • S Slacker007

            Reports indicate that they might pull her from life support, very soon. Now that I am a parent, stories of losing a child, is always hard for me to hear/watch/read. Although I do not care for Bobby Brown, I do wish him strength during this hard time.

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            We all become our parents at some point.

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              It is hard to reach final conclusions on complex systems.

              Kenneth Haugland wrote:

              Do children copy your dialect (assuming that you speak different then other people in your area) or the other kids dialect?

              Both. Copying behaviour is the first way of learning. Even if none of the kids curse - if you curse like a sailor, the kid will do the same. When older, origins of behaviour are even harder to point. As your actions are determined by fenotype and genotype, it'd simply follow that even advertisments have influence on your dialect.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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              Kenneth Haugland
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              Well, you can watch the program but the essence is that it is based on twin studies and adopted kids etc. It's not the case that it is solely based on gens compared to nurture, but without genes somethings are impossible. However, no one is saying that you cant ruin your kids with poor parenting.

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              • J Jorgen Andersson

                That's easy enough to answer for my personal case. I'm having a pretty distinct dialect from a different part of the country than what we live in. My wife has a foreign accent. Our kids speak like the other kids.

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                I'm having a pretty distinct dialect

                Skåne? :laugh:

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                • C CafedeJamaica

                  We all become our parents at some point.

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                  CafedeJamaica wrote:

                  We all become our parents at some point.

                  I am king of general statements, so I think I have a right to say that your comment, well, is a general statement. I think that statement can be true, if the individual doesn't make a specific effort to NOT be like their parents. Also, being like your parents isn't always a bad deal. Some parents are down right cool.

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                  • K Kenneth Haugland

                    Jörgen Andersson wrote:

                    I'm having a pretty distinct dialect

                    Skåne? :laugh:

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                    Jorgen Andersson
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                    Värmland, bordering to Norway. Have been asked more than once by people from Stockholm if I'm Norwegian. Something a Norwegian certainly wouldn't understand

                    Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                    • K Kenneth Haugland

                      Well, you can watch the program but the essence is that it is based on twin studies and adopted kids etc. It's not the case that it is solely based on gens compared to nurture, but without genes somethings are impossible. However, no one is saying that you cant ruin your kids with poor parenting.

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                      Kenneth Haugland wrote:

                      Well, you can watch the program but the essence is that it is based on twin studies and adopted kids etc.

                      I bookmarked it; limited bandwidth here. With genotypes being equal, only the fenotype would matter. That would include interaction with everyone. Including the grandparents old dog. Or a church. Did I mention advertising yet? More interaction would logically mean more influence on each future action. Equally, "values" come from all kinds of places; they're a product of what you experienced. Children sociallize earlier today than they used to. It may hold true that the apple didn't fall far from the tree, and that most values in the past came from a limited circle and have been reinforced for a longer period.

                      Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^]

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                      • J Jorgen Andersson

                        Värmland, bordering to Norway. Have been asked more than once by people from Stockholm if I'm Norwegian. Something a Norwegian certainly wouldn't understand

                        Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                        Kenneth Haugland
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                        Not as strange as it might seem; In 1250-1350 Jämtland, Härjedalen and Värmland belonged to Norway. After the Kalmar union it was split up a little different.

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                          CafedeJamaica wrote:

                          We all become our parents at some point.

                          I am king of general statements, so I think I have a right to say that your comment, well, is a general statement. I think that statement can be true, if the individual doesn't make a specific effort to NOT be like their parents. Also, being like your parents isn't always a bad deal. Some parents are down right cool.

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                          CafedeJamaica
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                          I thought it was a negative but you only get one set of parents be happy you didn't get the wrong ones.

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