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  • P Pualee

    Digital photos contain GIS information. If you give me enough photos, I can track your behavior, even without your social media posts... It kind of opens up the door for being victimized. I have no idea, or trust for the cloud to strip this out. In fact, I bet they consume it as meta data for advertising. And even without that information, some people who are closer to me could figure out the same info just from viewing the picture.

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    Mycroft Holmes
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    Pualee wrote:

    I bet they consume it as meta data for advertising

    Yah so I can expect a flood of travel adds and how to annoy your grand kids. I already get more travel crap than I can handle and while I am quite proficient at annoying the little terrors, new ideas are always needed.

    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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    • M Mark_Wallace

      rnbergren wrote:

      SSD drive

      Eek. Be prepared for the worst. An HDD has physical magnetic discs that can be read, even if there's damage. An SSD is essentially a memory card, so there's nothing physical to recover data from.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Charles Programmer
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      Well, like the spinning HD, SSDs have controllers that can be replaced with the right technology. Just because there's no rust, doesn't mean "there's nothing physical to recover data from."

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      • P PIEBALDconsult

        rnbergren wrote:

        off of it badly

        Then any tool should suffice?

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        Charles Programmer
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        A hammer's a tool. It is, it is. A hammer is really a tool. Maybe I'm a tool... ;)

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        • D dandy72

          rnbergren wrote:

          SSD drive went all bad and I need some stuff off of it badly.

          Some people still swear by SpinRite, even with SSDs.

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          SpinRite FTW! :badger:

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          • M Murray Whipps

            Don't know where you live, of course but here in Phoenix there's a company called Data Doctors that has been able to scrape data off very badly damaged disks for me. Apparently they can disassemble the disk and read the platter. There's probably a group like them in your area. I have never given them an SSD so...? And no, I don't work for them :) Murray

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            Murray Whipps wrote:

            here in Phoenix

            Pssst... http://www.codeproject.com/Members/Tosche-Station[^]

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            • S synp

              Can't you contact the NSA and ask them for their latest copy of your data?

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              Charles Programmer
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              If they actually performed a service like that, then people like myself, (well if there are people like myself,) might not be so paranoid and resentful of them. Unfortunately, I believe we pay them for way more than just this kind of service, but receive nothing we value in return... not even the safety they claim to be providing us. It's just a way to take money, ideas, privacy and dignity from us.

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              • R rnbergren

                Anyone used TestDisk or DiskInternals? SSD drive went all bad and I need some stuff off of it badly.

                To err is human to really mess up you need a computer

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                jmussetter
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                If it's an SSD, good luck. This is one of the main reasons I haven't moved to SSD drives yet, and if/when I do, they will only be for OS and program loading, and not for data storage. The problem is the way NAND memory works and the fact that the data doesn't stay permanently there if the drive has issues. I'm not sure if tools have improved much, but the last I've read (a couple years ago when the drives were getting popular), there wasn't a fool proof way to rebuild the file system when it get's corrupted. The data stored on a SSD isn't segmented into partitions and sectors like a normal drive, so when things get corrupted, the data is randomly stored all over the place without a way to rebuild the links (if it's there at all). With a normal platter based drive, I've had good luck with mounting in another computer to pull data off, or using a Linux boot CD to boot to linux and mount the drive to perform data recovery. I don't think either of these methods will work for a SSD.

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                • P PIEBALDconsult

                  SpinRite FTW! :badger:

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                  PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                  SpinRite FTW!

                  I can't quite make up my mind about SpinRite. Steve Gibson's technical explanations make sense, and the testimonies on his Security Now podcast all sound legit enough (I have no reason to doubt his sincerity), but I've always had less than stellar luck with it almost every time I've had a need for it. I *did* have it recover data, but I've also had it stuck on a particular spot on a hard drive for a solid week without making any progress. That being said, when people are ready to give up on a dying hard drive, it's still the first thing I recommend as there's nothing comparable out there. Any personal experiences?

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                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                    SpinRite FTW!

                    I can't quite make up my mind about SpinRite. Steve Gibson's technical explanations make sense, and the testimonies on his Security Now podcast all sound legit enough (I have no reason to doubt his sincerity), but I've always had less than stellar luck with it almost every time I've had a need for it. I *did* have it recover data, but I've also had it stuck on a particular spot on a hard drive for a solid week without making any progress. That being said, when people are ready to give up on a dying hard drive, it's still the first thing I recommend as there's nothing comparable out there. Any personal experiences?

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                    dandy72 wrote:

                    Steve Gibson's

                    dandy72 wrote:

                    Any personal experiences?

                    He spoke at a computer club meeting I attended in the early 90s. He had been having some trouble adjusting to the new era of Windows (3). He always developed in Assembly, but everyone said you had to use C++. Well, he showed them and by golly he wrote a Windows (3) screen saver in Assembly! Freaking genius! It was just an exercise of course and he gave out free copies. I think I still have my copy. I have never used SpinRite, never needed to. The only time I needed to recover data (Pascal code and a couple of reports from college) I wrote my own recovery tool.

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                    • P PIEBALDconsult

                      dandy72 wrote:

                      Steve Gibson's

                      dandy72 wrote:

                      Any personal experiences?

                      He spoke at a computer club meeting I attended in the early 90s. He had been having some trouble adjusting to the new era of Windows (3). He always developed in Assembly, but everyone said you had to use C++. Well, he showed them and by golly he wrote a Windows (3) screen saver in Assembly! Freaking genius! It was just an exercise of course and he gave out free copies. I think I still have my copy. I have never used SpinRite, never needed to. The only time I needed to recover data (Pascal code and a couple of reports from college) I wrote my own recovery tool.

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                      I used to be in the camp that thought Steve Gibson was a quack. After listening to his podcast, it's obvious the guy's no fool.

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