The meaning of no
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
I've honestly almost never got a "No" from a job application I've really wanted. Had some from jobs applied for because, well, I needed a job What kept me going? Knowing that every application, every interview, every test was a learning experience. When you've had a few you get to anticipate the questions, have answers ready, and know how to avoid that frown followed by scribbling!
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
Generally I have got NO at the application process stage . But Somwhow I get to interview, Its mostly No from my side. How I get going? I love the time from the acceptance of application to Interview. And it was always a good experience to see how bad or good you are. The only upside was that I was always having a Job and so it was not a Do or Die situation for me.
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
I work on IT systems for financial services, and to do this it helps enormously if you have a track record of working at other recognized 'players' in the industry, which can make it hard to break in to. To get around the 'no financial experience' I just kept going relying on my technicals to finally get me in, then once in moving around is fairly easy and I learned the finance on the job. I think perseverance is essentially it.
Regards, Rob Philpott.
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
Argonia wrote:
(I guess I didn't have the needed experience)
Don't guess, ask. I've had lots of "no's"; the reasons varied, from "you've got too much experience" upto "you don't fit in the team". And sometimes you just have to push them a bit to get your no :)
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
When I was (a lot) younger and inexperienced I sent off 5 applications to the MOD (UK Ministry of Defence). It wasn't the fact they all said "No" that got me down - it was the fact I got SIX No's from 5 applications! However, once I'd seen the funny side of that I bounced back, persevered and ended up with a really interesting job in a completely different field that led to me starting my first company.
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
I got something like 20 "no"s after the university. I got to three places into final interviews and they've chosen somebody else before me. Some I never heard from, others I got no after the interview...or in one case I refused working nights due to support of Japanese customer (time difference). Since I knew I had no experience and only limited knowledge, I shrugged and went on the next one. There was a case when the no turned violent in one privately owned company when the owner realized I wasn't at the presentation of the product I applied for (no one from the company called me, not my fault) -> I got accused of intentionally wasting his time and literally pushed out of the office. :) Once I got a job, I learned fast, did a good job (even if I was slower then my experienced collegues). Then I became one of the experienced collegues teaching others. Since then I'm essentially changing jobs on recommendation - they need an expert, if they know I'm looking, I get the call.
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
Getting a "no" isn't the problem: it's when you don't get anything that it gets dispiriting. Back in the early 90's I was out of work for a year or so, and it got very, very depressing applying for jobs when you got nothing at all back: not even a "no, you are over-qualified". It doesn't even let you work out what to change for next time to improve your chances. Finally I got an interview - for a job on less than half of what I had been earning - and got the job. (I've not got an offer from only one job after an interview, and it became clear in the interview that they needed a hardware engineer not software, and didn't know there was a difference) Try not to let it get you down: sometimes it's not what you know, it's who you know; and most times the decision to reject is taken in the first ten seconds of the interview for no good reason at all!
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
Argonia wrote:
I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Too many to remember all of them. What kept me going was that I needed a job.
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs Jim<</xml>
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
The last no I got was from a company I interviewed at a few years ago. I was out for a very boozy work night the evening before, and I show up badly hungover and late so I'm not surprised. In my defense, I was about 21 at the time! In general if I show up on-time and sober they usually offer me a job :thumbsup:
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So recently I applied in some of the firms I liked from few years. And recently I decided that I have enough time in the industry to apply. In the first one they said they liked somebody else, but I managed with the interviews and tasks(I think they just said that out of being polite) and from the second They said no after the first meeting(I guess I didn't have the needed experience) So its really hard to get a no from where you have applied. I'm just wondering how many no's have you gotten in your career and what kept you going ?
Microsoft ... the only place where VARIANT_TRUE != true
I haven't been working for a lot of time. But I was looking for my first real job(not as a student) in August last year. I feel that a no is as important as a yes only that when someone says no it is very useful if they also explain why the negative response. Uncertainty is the worst thing I have experienced, as I usually only received a response to about 30% of the sent applications. Survival kept me going as I can't afford to be without a job.
