Which OS do you work primarily on ?
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I've been using Windows for so long currently running window 8 on my desktop. I think windows is better to develop on than linux. What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
"If A is a success in life, then A=x+y+z. (Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.)"
I use both Windows and Linux (in fact I'm using VMs for most of my needs, where the host is Fedora and the guests are mostly Windows with a few CentOS, Ubuntu and Fedora desktops/servers)... As today there is no much difference between development on Windows or Linux, it is a matter of getting used to the environment... However, the maintenance of the development environment (and I mean updates and new tools) are more complicated on Linux... About the war - you have to check all the fronts...On desktop Windows rules with no actual changes in the last decade, but on the server front Windows barely gets the ball...
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I've been using Windows for so long currently running window 8 on my desktop. I think windows is better to develop on than linux. What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
"If A is a success in life, then A=x+y+z. (Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.)"
It is platforms we work on, not OS; unless we're going to create a new OS. I work on Windows too, I use Visual Studio 2013 and I usually build .NET applications, but since a few days I am now getting into Android programming to get a grasp of Android too. :) Android is linux-based OS, so I think it is also a great one as I have never used the linux OS in real (on my desktop), and I am not even ready for a change.
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I've been using Windows for so long currently running window 8 on my desktop. I think windows is better to develop on than linux. What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
"If A is a success in life, then A=x+y+z. (Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.)"
As usual, it depends. Windows programming pays my bills. I prefer the tools available under Windows to the tools available under Linux, but cannot honestly claim that these tools are better than the tools available under Linux. I use Linux (in a virtual machine) for playing around with various ideas, the advantage being that there are no licensing requirements for Linux. This allows me to create as many VMs as I wish, without running into various boneheaded licensing enforcers (AKA Genuine Windows). Lastly, I do not believe that there is any sort of "War" between Linux and Windows. Both are useful O/Ses, and each has its strengths and its weaknesses.
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Captain Price wrote:
What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
I have my preferences over Windows (OS X) but these are my preferences. In all reality what matters most is the tools that you use to get the job done. I do think however you should be skilled enough to work in Windows, Linux or OS X.
OSX is a great platform to run Windows on.
Dennis E White wrote:
I do think however you should be skilled enough to work in Windows, Linux or OS X.
I would like to point out that there are some differences in the way these platforms work that most people are not prepared for. Also, you do not need to be able to work in 'nix to be a succesfull .NET programmer.
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I've been on Windows since '98. I soon switched to 2K and didn't switch again until 2009 when Win7 came out, mostly skipping XP except for testing. Currently on Win7 and still happy with it. :) (at least for another 9 months) As for war between Linux and windows, I thought that was over a long time ago? :laugh: For the record, I have tried more than a few Linux distros only to get them up and running, then thinking...'ok, now what?'. :confused:
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I've been using Windows for so long currently running window 8 on my desktop. I think windows is better to develop on than linux. What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
"If A is a success in life, then A=x+y+z. (Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.)"
XP and some 7
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I've been using Windows for so long currently running window 8 on my desktop. I think windows is better to develop on than linux. What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
"If A is a success in life, then A=x+y+z. (Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.)"
There is no war whatsoever. Who cares about linux noawadays?
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OSX is a great platform to run Windows on.
Dennis E White wrote:
I do think however you should be skilled enough to work in Windows, Linux or OS X.
I would like to point out that there are some differences in the way these platforms work that most people are not prepared for. Also, you do not need to be able to work in 'nix to be a succesfull .NET programmer.
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Eddy Vluggen wrote:
Also, you do not need to be able to work in 'nix to be a succesfull .NET programmer.
unless of course you are using Mono via Xamarian and are developing applications in C# to run on an embedded version of Ubuntu on a Arm processor. Don't narrow your employment security by narrowing your belief that the language you use only runs on a single OS.
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I've been using Windows for so long currently running window 8 on my desktop. I think windows is better to develop on than linux. What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
"If A is a success in life, then A=x+y+z. (Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.)"
I once installed Linux on a VM using Virtual Box running on a Windows 7 Host, never went back to it after the install. And i've stared at the screen of our Zimbra mail server running on some Linux flavour, but i can't remember which. Windows all the way for me.
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Dennis E White wrote:
In all reality what matters most is the tools that you use to get the job done.
Spot on. The function of an OS is to make the machine's hardware available to the user, allowing him to run useful programs. How anyone can lose sight of that simple truth, I have no idea.
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I concur. For decades, my primary OS choices have been Guardian and MPE and all their associated tools. Now, it's Windows 8.1 and a word processor.
The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
all apples run Windows
Don't neglect to mention that anyone with a non-apple OS has no interest in running it on their machine.
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iOS developers often use Windows machines with virtual Mac OS X guests
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I've been using Windows for so long currently running window 8 on my desktop. I think windows is better to develop on than linux. What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
"If A is a success in life, then A=x+y+z. (Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.)"
I've been on one or other MS OS for nearly my entire PC-life. Started with DOS 2.something. And still on Win 7 / 8 (if I have to). But that's only because of some programs (mostly CAD / BIM) which I need for work. When those aren't necessary I actually find using Linux (Kubuntu being my current preference) more easy to use, especially for programming tasks. And wonder over wonder ... I tend to do lots of DotNet programming, especially for the BIM tool Revit. In which case I've found that SharpDevelop works better than VisualStudio for that purpose. And then since I'm now used to non-VS for DotNet, I like MonoDev in Linux even more than #Dev / VS. For nearly every thing else I find that Linux simply has all the tools I need, when forced to use Windows I find myself always having to install something like Cygwin just so I can actually "do" something worth while. But I'm fully in agreement with the "what war" comments ... there is no war ... there's just: "what works?" "in what situations?" "which do you feel works better?" etc.
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iOS developers often use Windows machines with virtual Mac OS X guests
Yes, developers often have to jump through weird, unpleasant hoops.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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I've been using Windows for so long currently running window 8 on my desktop. I think windows is better to develop on than linux. What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
"If A is a success in life, then A=x+y+z. (Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.)"
By learning Linux skills in addition to Windows, I upped my salary by 40% in two years. Developing on various OS's is fine, but I actually develop the OS too, and as you know, this is difficult with windows. It's *okay* for consumer/commercial stuff and some, restricted, industrial stuff, but if you have to customise operating systems at a level beyond windows embedded, or if your resources are limited, then there is no drop in for Linux.
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I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Don't you need a butter knife than that? Unless you're one of those guys who leaves unfinished stubs in place of working functions...
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Jörgen Andersson wrote:
all apples run Windows
Don't neglect to mention that anyone with a non-apple OS has no interest in running it on their machine.
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Mark_Wallace wrote:
anyone with a non-apple OS has no interest in running it on their machine
I have an interest. It's just not enough of one that I feel like ponying up hard-earned lucre to pay the Jobs tax.
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I've been using Windows for so long currently running window 8 on my desktop. I think windows is better to develop on than linux. What do you guys think about the war between linux and windows ?
"If A is a success in life, then A=x+y+z. (Work is x; y is play; and z is keeping your mouth shut.)"
Ya don't consider Android or iOS operating systems? I'll write on toppa any OS they pay me to. For my hobby (unpaid programming of music software) I'll stick with windows. FOR NOW... But android is looking pretttty attractive. It's at least growing in the right direction unlike windows which seems to be growing in the wrong direction. Both for several years now. Seems to me that Microsoft no longer "gets it" like they used to back in the late 90s.
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There is no war whatsoever. Who cares about linux noawadays?
Well, a lot of people care about the Android version of it. And you'd be hard pressed to find businesses using any other version of Unix. Sun(=oracle) and HP died at my job a looong time ago. If you're stuck with oracle and apache like a LOT of us are, Linux is what it's gonna sit on usually.
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Well, a lot of people care about the Android version of it. And you'd be hard pressed to find businesses using any other version of Unix. Sun(=oracle) and HP died at my job a looong time ago. If you're stuck with oracle and apache like a LOT of us are, Linux is what it's gonna sit on usually.
Android != Linux. The linux kernel might be the background, but programming is in the Android interface.
