aNDROID dEVELOPMENT : fRUSTRATION
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I got myself an Android phone a while ago. I HATE IT!!! Why on earth would anyone want to develop apps for such a pile of $#¥%.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
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I got myself an Android phone a while ago. I HATE IT!!! Why on earth would anyone want to develop apps for such a pile of $#¥%.
I may not last forever but the mess I leave behind certainly will.
for example, when you have to debug software on industrial equipment PLC on the spot. You wouldn't want to carry your laptop in the hall with dust and oil all around, not to mention there is nowhere to sit down and code. Android tablet is much more convenient option, you can code in cctools IDE in c or c++, compile on tablet and upload code to, for example, AVR chip with ZFlasher app and USB OTG cable. For other purposes, you can use ssh, send some UDP packets etc... And for coding on PC for android, QtCreator c++ IDE is more convenient than JAVA. Almost every piece of software i've made for win or linux, I can compile and run on android without any modification.
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Richard Andrew x64 wrote:
You should be wary of those low priced android tablets. A recent study found that they come from the factory loaded with malware and backdoors.
Yes, and Elvis works in the chip shop around the corner from me, along with Buddy Holly and D. B. Cooper. How much is Samsung paying you, BTW?
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Samsung didn't pay me to write this article: http://www.geek.com/android/cheap-black-friday-android-tablets-are-riddled-with-security-holes-1610424/[^]
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
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tHE OTHR DAY i STOPPRD BY vERIZON AND GOT AN eLLIPSIS 7 INCH 8 gb tablet for $20.So, I decided it's time to learn how to develop for Android. After digging arounD the interwebs,I find I need Android Studio, so I down loasd it. then the installer says it won't run on my desktop computer Win 8.1, i7 16 GB. nO PROBLEM, i THOUGHT, i HAVE AN aNDROID TABLET, So i'LL JUSt FIND SOMETHING THAT RUNS ON IT. aLAS IT APPeARS THERE IS NO WAY TO DEVELOP aNDROID APPS ON AN aNDROID DEVICE. THAT SUCKS. dOeS ANYONW knOW OF AN idE FOR DEVELOPING aNDROID APPS THAT CAN RUN ON aNDROID?
CQ de W5ALT
Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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tHE OTHR DAY i STOPPRD BY vERIZON AND GOT AN eLLIPSIS 7 INCH 8 gb tablet for $20.So, I decided it's time to learn how to develop for Android. After digging arounD the interwebs,I find I need Android Studio, so I down loasd it. then the installer says it won't run on my desktop computer Win 8.1, i7 16 GB. nO PROBLEM, i THOUGHT, i HAVE AN aNDROID TABLET, So i'LL JUSt FIND SOMETHING THAT RUNS ON IT. aLAS IT APPeARS THERE IS NO WAY TO DEVELOP aNDROID APPS ON AN aNDROID DEVICE. THAT SUCKS. dOeS ANYONW knOW OF AN idE FOR DEVELOPING aNDROID APPS THAT CAN RUN ON aNDROID?
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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
I can't imagine your I7 not being able to run Android Studio, with one caveat - you do have to make sure you have the Java 1.7 SDK (or higher) installed for the current version of Android Studio. You can get by with Java 1.6 SDK if you limit your development to older versions of Android, but you may have to revert to Eclipse with the Android APK. Android Studio will work just fine with Java 1.8 SDK installed, though I don't know if it will support the full use of the added Java language features like the functional programming stuff. As an aside, if for some reason you cannot get this working, you may also look into installing Microsoft Visual Studio 2015 beta. I believe they are going to support Android development in that edition. There's also VS 2013 Community Edition, which is the same as VS Pro, but without the "you have to pay for it" thing. I haven't investigated if you can develop for Android using VS 2013, but I suspect that you can by developing your application and using the Android NDK to convert your native code to Adroid code. As far as a typing interface for your android device, most mobile devices are blue tooth enabled. They make keyboards for that. Motorola even sold a keyboard for my old Motorola Xoom. Still, that would have been painful. I do my development work with two 24" monitors. Trying to do the same thing on an 8" tablet would drive me to find other work. :) Others have answered that there are apps for developing on android, so I won't address that issue.
Eric
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Samsung didn't pay me to write this article: http://www.geek.com/android/cheap-black-friday-android-tablets-are-riddled-with-security-holes-1610424/[^]
The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.
Ah, the bluebox report! The one that was discredited because it focused on tabs that had been sitting on the shelf for over a year, so were being pushed out cheap, and did not allow any security updates before testing them. Let's take a guess at whom they were being paid by! And, BTW, no matter whom you buy a computing device from, even if it's only been on the shelf for a day, allow it to run its update function before using it to access your bank account.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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tHE OTHR DAY i STOPPRD BY vERIZON AND GOT AN eLLIPSIS 7 INCH 8 gb tablet for $20.So, I decided it's time to learn how to develop for Android. After digging arounD the interwebs,I find I need Android Studio, so I down loasd it. then the installer says it won't run on my desktop computer Win 8.1, i7 16 GB. nO PROBLEM, i THOUGHT, i HAVE AN aNDROID TABLET, So i'LL JUSt FIND SOMETHING THAT RUNS ON IT. aLAS IT APPeARS THERE IS NO WAY TO DEVELOP aNDROID APPS ON AN aNDROID DEVICE. THAT SUCKS. dOeS ANYONW knOW OF AN idE FOR DEVELOPING aNDROID APPS THAT CAN RUN ON aNDROID?
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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
Walt, I don't believe there is an IDE that runs ON Android, but there is a pretty cool little IDE called NSBasic that runs in the Windows desktop that will deliver a program to an Android. I'm only just playing with it but writing an app on it was really pretty easy; you can develop for iOS OR Android with it because it emits Javascript and formats the page to run full-screen on just about any device (so it's tough to tell it apart from a native application). Further, I think you can use PhoneGap with it if you should want to develop for the App Stores. Check it out: www.nsbasic.com. It only costs about a hundred bucks and is constantly being improved and upgraded. -CB
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Walt, I don't believe there is an IDE that runs ON Android, but there is a pretty cool little IDE called NSBasic that runs in the Windows desktop that will deliver a program to an Android. I'm only just playing with it but writing an app on it was really pretty easy; you can develop for iOS OR Android with it because it emits Javascript and formats the page to run full-screen on just about any device (so it's tough to tell it apart from a native application). Further, I think you can use PhoneGap with it if you should want to develop for the App Stores. Check it out: www.nsbasic.com. It only costs about a hundred bucks and is constantly being improved and upgraded. -CB
CodeBubba wrote:
I don't believe there is an IDE that runs ON Android
That's strange. I linked above to an IDE that runs on Android.
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Pete O'Hanlon wrote:
You can most definitely code Android on it.
Fascinating. I can't imagine doing something like that on my phone, or even a tablet. :) Is it really, um, usable? Marc
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It is VERY usable. Here's an app I wrote entirely with AIDE and the Hacker's keyboard, while sitting on the toilet (no kidding): https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.orlinrgeorgiev.converter[^] In fact, I'm doing most of my side/hobby projects in it. I'm also doing some serious C++ Android NDK stuff with it - 3D, OpenGL, shaders, etc., no problem about it. I also recommend getting SGit for a git client (sadly, all the SVN clients suck, including the premium versions), File Expert for a file manager and aGrep for in-file word searching. You'll be pouring code in no time.
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I've just been trying out AIDE on an Android device. You can most definitely code Android on it.
Thanks, Pete I've installed AIDE AND STARTED WORKING THROUGH THE TUTORIALS, BUT ITPERIODOICALLY STOPS RUNNING AFTER TRIVIAL CHANGED, LIKE ADDING A LETTER TO A STRING OR ADDING A COMMENT LINE. i ALSO FOUNF pYTJON FOR aNDROIF AND sl4a THAT DOES SEVERAY SCRIPTING LANGUAGES, BUTi STILL HSVEN'Y FIGURED OUY HOW TO MAKE A NONTRIVIAL app
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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
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Thanks, Pete I've installed AIDE AND STARTED WORKING THROUGH THE TUTORIALS, BUT ITPERIODOICALLY STOPS RUNNING AFTER TRIVIAL CHANGED, LIKE ADDING A LETTER TO A STRING OR ADDING A COMMENT LINE. i ALSO FOUNF pYTJON FOR aNDROIF AND sl4a THAT DOES SEVERAY SCRIPTING LANGUAGES, BUTi STILL HSVEN'Y FIGURED OUY HOW TO MAKE A NONTRIVIAL app
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Walt Fair, Jr., P. E. Comport Computing Specializing in Technical Engineering Software
Python for Android. That is cool. Thanks Walt. How are you doing?
