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  • S Slacker007

    You are going to have a lot of s3x in order to get from 200 to 5,000, in 2 year's time. Just saying.

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    This is just impossibruuuuu :confused: 1 guy 199 ladys -> 199 babies per 9 months \ 2 years => 529,34 babies Hell, they gonna need a lot o milk! :suss:

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      For the sake of this discussion assume that space travel and space habitats have advanced quite a bit further than they actually have to date and that mankind has had a small-ish (100 - 200 inhabitants) colony on Mars for the last 10 years. Things are not perfectly safe and the life is not easy but babies are being born there with all the right number of appendages / organs and the colony is almost completely self sustaining. There is a planned expansion to boost the colony's population to 5000+ in the next couple years. 1. Are you interested? Why or why not? 2. How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

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      R Giskard Reventlov
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      1: Yes, but as said before, it'll be so long before Mars will be open to ordinary folk that my grandchildren's grandchildren may get a shot. 2: Once they get there and establish a small colony; a proof of concept, so to speak the next stages will start to happen more rapidly as the need for new technologies pushes innovation and discovery forward. Probably at least 100 years.

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        For the sake of this discussion assume that space travel and space habitats have advanced quite a bit further than they actually have to date and that mankind has had a small-ish (100 - 200 inhabitants) colony on Mars for the last 10 years. Things are not perfectly safe and the life is not easy but babies are being born there with all the right number of appendages / organs and the colony is almost completely self sustaining. There is a planned expansion to boost the colony's population to 5000+ in the next couple years. 1. Are you interested? Why or why not? 2. How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

        Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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        1. I'm too old for the pioneering life, but if my grandchildren wanted to join - I certainly wouldn't stand in their way. 2. The answer to (1) implies that I think that it will be at least 30-40 years from today before the Mars colony is ready for such expansion. Don't forget that the colonists won't be the "poor, huddled masses yearning to be free", but highly-skilled engineers, scientists etc. I suspect that couples in which one of the partners does not fit an "essential skills" slot will be rejected out-of-hand.

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        • S Slacker007

          You are going to have a lot of s3x in order to get from 200 to 5,000, in 2 year's time. Just saying.

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          Slacker007 wrote:

          You are going to have a lot of s3x in order to get from 200 to 5,000, in 2 year's time.

          Get your mind out of the gutter... they're sending 5000 new people up in ships over 2 years. The question is: Do you want to be one of those 5000?

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            For the sake of this discussion assume that space travel and space habitats have advanced quite a bit further than they actually have to date and that mankind has had a small-ish (100 - 200 inhabitants) colony on Mars for the last 10 years. Things are not perfectly safe and the life is not easy but babies are being born there with all the right number of appendages / organs and the colony is almost completely self sustaining. There is a planned expansion to boost the colony's population to 5000+ in the next couple years. 1. Are you interested? Why or why not? 2. How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

            Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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            ZurdoDev
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            Do not start what I think you are trying to start. :mad:

            There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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            • L Lost User

              For the sake of this discussion assume that space travel and space habitats have advanced quite a bit further than they actually have to date and that mankind has had a small-ish (100 - 200 inhabitants) colony on Mars for the last 10 years. Things are not perfectly safe and the life is not easy but babies are being born there with all the right number of appendages / organs and the colony is almost completely self sustaining. There is a planned expansion to boost the colony's population to 5000+ in the next couple years. 1. Are you interested? Why or why not? 2. How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

              Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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              Richard Deeming
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              How much yodelling[^] will be involved? :rolleyes:


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              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                RyanDev wrote:

                Do not start what I think you are trying to start.

                No idea what you're referring to. :confused:

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                ZurdoDev
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                Right. ;)

                There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  Do not start what I think you are trying to start. :mad:

                  There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                  Richard Deeming
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                  What do you mean? :rolleyes:


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                  "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                  • Z ZurdoDev

                    Do not start what I think you are trying to start. :mad:

                    There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                    RyanDev wrote:

                    Do not start what I think you are trying to start.

                    No idea what you're referring to. :confused:

                    Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

                      What do you mean? :rolleyes:


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                      Curse you. :mad:

                      There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                      • Z ZurdoDev

                        Right. ;)

                        There are only 10 types of people in the world, those who understand binary and those who don't.

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                        Honestly, I have no clue what you mean. :suss:

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                          Slacker007 wrote:

                          You are going to have a lot of s3x in order to get from 200 to 5,000, in 2 year's time.

                          Get your mind out of the gutter... they're sending 5000 new people up in ships over 2 years. The question is: Do you want to be one of those 5000?

                          Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                          Slacker007
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                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                          Get your mind out of the gutter

                          That, is just impossibruuuuu!!

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                            For the sake of this discussion assume that space travel and space habitats have advanced quite a bit further than they actually have to date and that mankind has had a small-ish (100 - 200 inhabitants) colony on Mars for the last 10 years. Things are not perfectly safe and the life is not easy but babies are being born there with all the right number of appendages / organs and the colony is almost completely self sustaining. There is a planned expansion to boost the colony's population to 5000+ in the next couple years. 1. Are you interested? Why or why not? 2. How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

                            Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                            Mark_Wallace
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                            Everything we see, hear, feel, and do is either an integral part of or highly influenced by the lump of assorted rocks we live on. Even the gravity of the Earth and the Moon affect the way we think, by introducing stresses that are countered in our bodies by hormones -- so the effects of the environment we interact with more brutally are naturally more brutal. Do I want to know what changes standing on another planet will make to me, both physically and psychologically? You're joking, right? Where do I sign? Just give me the piece of paper to sign. I can be ready to leave in, oh, about three seconds.

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                            • L Lost User

                              For the sake of this discussion assume that space travel and space habitats have advanced quite a bit further than they actually have to date and that mankind has had a small-ish (100 - 200 inhabitants) colony on Mars for the last 10 years. Things are not perfectly safe and the life is not easy but babies are being born there with all the right number of appendages / organs and the colony is almost completely self sustaining. There is a planned expansion to boost the colony's population to 5000+ in the next couple years. 1. Are you interested? Why or why not? 2. How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

                              Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                              Mars doesn't have an ozone layer, as a matter of fact it doesn't have an atmosphere to begin with, it also doesn't have a magnetic field, which means all the high energy radiation from the sun will kill any organic life very quickly. The only chance they would have is to live deep underground in some caves. So technically it would not be on Mars, but underground Mars.

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                              • L Lost User

                                For the sake of this discussion assume that space travel and space habitats have advanced quite a bit further than they actually have to date and that mankind has had a small-ish (100 - 200 inhabitants) colony on Mars for the last 10 years. Things are not perfectly safe and the life is not easy but babies are being born there with all the right number of appendages / organs and the colony is almost completely self sustaining. There is a planned expansion to boost the colony's population to 5000+ in the next couple years. 1. Are you interested? Why or why not? 2. How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

                                Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                                Tim Carmichael
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                                1. No. When two people are present, you have three opinions. I do NOT want to imagine the politics involved there... things are bad enough already. Think "Lord of the Flies", but on a different planet. 2. Until there is an economical benefit from sending people to Mars, not likely to happen in my lifetime.

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                                  Everything we see, hear, feel, and do is either an integral part of or highly influenced by the lump of assorted rocks we live on. Even the gravity of the Earth and the Moon affect the way we think, by introducing stresses that are countered in our bodies by hormones -- so the effects of the environment we interact with more brutally are naturally more brutal. Do I want to know what changes standing on another planet will make to me, both physically and psychologically? You're joking, right? Where do I sign? Just give me the piece of paper to sign. I can be ready to leave in, oh, about three seconds.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Yeah, that is my opinion as well. I'm too old and decrepit (heavy on the decrepit) to be considered even if it were a reality today, but I'd be willing in a heartbeat. As for the eventuality... I suspect we're still a century or more away.

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                                    For the sake of this discussion assume that space travel and space habitats have advanced quite a bit further than they actually have to date and that mankind has had a small-ish (100 - 200 inhabitants) colony on Mars for the last 10 years. Things are not perfectly safe and the life is not easy but babies are being born there with all the right number of appendages / organs and the colony is almost completely self sustaining. There is a planned expansion to boost the colony's population to 5000+ in the next couple years. 1. Are you interested? Why or why not? 2. How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

                                    Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                                    Marc Clifton
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                                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                    Are you interested? Why or why not?

                                    No, because even 5000 less people on earth will make this planet a nicer (albeit very slightly nicer) place. :) Besides that, I could never imagine wanting to live in tiny enclosed dwellings, never feel the sun on my face, the wind in my hair, the spring of warm grass on my feet, the gentle wooshing sound of the ocean, the cardinal that visits in the morning outside my window. Heck, send all the people to Mars, I'll stay here.

                                    Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                    How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

                                    200-300 years, barring any major wars or environmental disasters. Send three guys, one of which has to stay in orbit, to the moon was an amazing technical feat. Having several people live on the space station where we have to haul up thousands of pounds of supplies every month is also an amazing technical feat. But we have yet to demonstrate we can have a sustainable group of people in LEO, or the moon, before venturing something like Mars. There's still a huge number of problems to solve, including how to make one's own shit taste like bacon. Heck, we have yet to demonstrate that the population of human beings on the earth is sustainable. Marc

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                                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                      Are you interested? Why or why not?

                                      No, because even 5000 less people on earth will make this planet a nicer (albeit very slightly nicer) place. :) Besides that, I could never imagine wanting to live in tiny enclosed dwellings, never feel the sun on my face, the wind in my hair, the spring of warm grass on my feet, the gentle wooshing sound of the ocean, the cardinal that visits in the morning outside my window. Heck, send all the people to Mars, I'll stay here.

                                      Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                      How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

                                      200-300 years, barring any major wars or environmental disasters. Send three guys, one of which has to stay in orbit, to the moon was an amazing technical feat. Having several people live on the space station where we have to haul up thousands of pounds of supplies every month is also an amazing technical feat. But we have yet to demonstrate we can have a sustainable group of people in LEO, or the moon, before venturing something like Mars. There's still a huge number of problems to solve, including how to make one's own shit taste like bacon. Heck, we have yet to demonstrate that the population of human beings on the earth is sustainable. Marc

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                                      Marc Clifton wrote:

                                      Heck, we have yet to demonstrate that the population of human beings on the earth is sustainable.

                                      ;P How many more millenniums will it take to convince you? ;P

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                                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                        Are you interested? Why or why not?

                                        No, because even 5000 less people on earth will make this planet a nicer (albeit very slightly nicer) place. :) Besides that, I could never imagine wanting to live in tiny enclosed dwellings, never feel the sun on my face, the wind in my hair, the spring of warm grass on my feet, the gentle wooshing sound of the ocean, the cardinal that visits in the morning outside my window. Heck, send all the people to Mars, I'll stay here.

                                        Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                        How long (if ever) do you think it will take in reality for this scenario to become true?

                                        200-300 years, barring any major wars or environmental disasters. Send three guys, one of which has to stay in orbit, to the moon was an amazing technical feat. Having several people live on the space station where we have to haul up thousands of pounds of supplies every month is also an amazing technical feat. But we have yet to demonstrate we can have a sustainable group of people in LEO, or the moon, before venturing something like Mars. There's still a huge number of problems to solve, including how to make one's own shit taste like bacon. Heck, we have yet to demonstrate that the population of human beings on the earth is sustainable. Marc

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                                        Slacker007
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                                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                                        never feel the sun on my face, the wind in my hair, the spring of warm grass on my feet, the gentle wooshing sound of the ocean, the cardinal that visits in the morning outside my window.

                                        Queue in some late 60's folk music now. :)

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                                          Marc Clifton wrote:

                                          Heck, we have yet to demonstrate that the population of human beings on the earth is sustainable.

                                          ;P How many more millenniums will it take to convince you? ;P

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                                          Marc Clifton
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                                          Mike Mullikin wrote:

                                          How many more millenniums will it take to convince you?

                                          Well, let's see: Every person has adequate nutrition. Given that 50% of the children on the planet don't, let's say 100 years. Every person gets an education. Another 100 years. Population growth levels off (and not by war, famine, disease, disaster, etc): Probably 500 years Species / Forest / Ocean destruction stops. Hmmm....let's say 250 years, because nature will probably remove most of us cockroaches by then as most ecosystems completely collapse. So, at least 5 millenium. :) Marc

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