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    ...just shouldn't be parents!!! :mad: The story: My daughter and I went into our favorite Mexican restaurant for lunch today. They have the world's greatest spicy pork tacos. Mmmmmmmm! Soon after sitting down I hear this small girl (approx 3 yrs. old) nearby start screaming bloody murder. I see she is sitting in a booth with her older brother (approx 10 yrs. old). Her parents are sitting in the adjacent booth with an older daughter (approx 13 yrs. old). They ignore the screams while talking to each other and the oldest girl (who looks completely disgusted about even being there). Finally when the screams become blood curdling the parents ask why she is crying. She says her brother hit her. He loudly denies it in a nasally, whiney voice. They talk to the little one for a minute and she eventually stops. A few minutes later I see the boy lightly punch the little girl in the back of her ribs and then quick turn back to his meal. Naturally the little girls wails and the hole process is repeated. This routine repeats several times over the course of about 15 minutes. Everybody in the joint is tired of hearing the crying and knows the boy is to blame. Finally mom and dad decide it's time to leave. They all get up and the little girl and her older brother head to a door near the front of the building. Mom, dad and sister start towards the side door. The father tells the son "Don't go out that door, we're parked over here." The son rolls his eyes in annoyance and opens the door anyway. The little girl darts past him and into the path of a car in the parking lot! :eek: Luckily the teenage driver was paying attention and screeched to a stop literally inches from the girl who has now fallen. The mother sees all of this and merely walks over to the scared child and glares at the stunned driver as if it was his fault. She tells the tot to get up off the pavement and walks slowly to the family minivan. Nothing is said to the brat son. Sadly I feel like there is nothing I can do. :| Mike Mullikin :beer:

    "I'm not calling you a liar but....I can't think of a way to finish that sentence." - Bart Simpson

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    Mike Mullikin wrote: Nothing is said to the brat son. I think we know who is "in charge" of that family. I think the father needs to discipline the son, seems as though he doesn't want to, but maybe he was waiting until he gets home? Later,
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      Mike Mullikin wrote: Nothing is said to the brat son. I think we know who is "in charge" of that family. I think the father needs to discipline the son, seems as though he doesn't want to, but maybe he was waiting until he gets home? Later,
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      I'd have slapped the little bugger across the back of the legs every time he whined, and if he cried and started making a fuss I'd have done it firmly across his backside till he stopped. If needs be I would have taken it outside or at least out of the main eating area, but I'd have disciplined him nonetheless. And I'd have started aged two. Never did me any harm; what what.

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        Mike Mullikin wrote: Sadly I feel like there is nothing I can do There is; next time tell the driver to go faster. :|

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        David Wulff wrote: There is; next time tell the driver to go faster. that's sick man, she's a little girl.:confused::confused::~ Later,
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          I'd have slapped the little bugger across the back of the legs every time he whined, and if he cried and started making a fuss I'd have done it firmly across his backside till he stopped. If needs be I would have taken it outside or at least out of the main eating area, but I'd have disciplined him nonetheless. And I'd have started aged two. Never did me any harm; what what.

          David Wulff

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          Well, if the kid his hitting his little sister, there must be hidden issues some where. I believe children do things because they can't express in words what they are feeling. For example, my parents were divorced so I was a brat from 4th grade to 8th grade:laugh: 8th grade I realized I better stop my self destructive behavior. But anyway the Parents need to stay on top of this stuff to help the development of there kids. (here ends JoeSox child development class 101) Later,
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            David Wulff wrote: There is; next time tell the driver to go faster. that's sick man, she's a little girl.:confused::confused::~ Later,
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            Children frow into perfect replicas of their parent's core values; a cog in a cycle that very rarely changes. There are two ways to not end up with three social dropouts when dealing with parents like that: make them realise that child rearing is a lifetime commitment, or take their children away. No child, from the most horribly abused to those with no discipline, ever wants to be taken from its parents, so that only leaves the former. Can you think of a better way to achieve this? I thought it was the "in thing" to punish the children to change the parents? (that's a metaphor btw and is irony nothing more) :confused:

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              Children frow into perfect replicas of their parent's core values; a cog in a cycle that very rarely changes. There are two ways to not end up with three social dropouts when dealing with parents like that: make them realise that child rearing is a lifetime commitment, or take their children away. No child, from the most horribly abused to those with no discipline, ever wants to be taken from its parents, so that only leaves the former. Can you think of a better way to achieve this? I thought it was the "in thing" to punish the children to change the parents? (that's a metaphor btw and is irony nothing more) :confused:

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              so I think we agree, it is up to the parents, and not to run over the little girl?:confused::laugh: Later,
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                ...just shouldn't be parents!!! :mad: The story: My daughter and I went into our favorite Mexican restaurant for lunch today. They have the world's greatest spicy pork tacos. Mmmmmmmm! Soon after sitting down I hear this small girl (approx 3 yrs. old) nearby start screaming bloody murder. I see she is sitting in a booth with her older brother (approx 10 yrs. old). Her parents are sitting in the adjacent booth with an older daughter (approx 13 yrs. old). They ignore the screams while talking to each other and the oldest girl (who looks completely disgusted about even being there). Finally when the screams become blood curdling the parents ask why she is crying. She says her brother hit her. He loudly denies it in a nasally, whiney voice. They talk to the little one for a minute and she eventually stops. A few minutes later I see the boy lightly punch the little girl in the back of her ribs and then quick turn back to his meal. Naturally the little girls wails and the hole process is repeated. This routine repeats several times over the course of about 15 minutes. Everybody in the joint is tired of hearing the crying and knows the boy is to blame. Finally mom and dad decide it's time to leave. They all get up and the little girl and her older brother head to a door near the front of the building. Mom, dad and sister start towards the side door. The father tells the son "Don't go out that door, we're parked over here." The son rolls his eyes in annoyance and opens the door anyway. The little girl darts past him and into the path of a car in the parking lot! :eek: Luckily the teenage driver was paying attention and screeched to a stop literally inches from the girl who has now fallen. The mother sees all of this and merely walks over to the scared child and glares at the stunned driver as if it was his fault. She tells the tot to get up off the pavement and walks slowly to the family minivan. Nothing is said to the brat son. Sadly I feel like there is nothing I can do. :| Mike Mullikin :beer:

                "I'm not calling you a liar but....I can't think of a way to finish that sentence." - Bart Simpson

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                That sucks Mike. You must have felt like kicking the parents in the stomach! Now we know why so many kids grow up into assholes. They prolly had parents of this type :( Nish

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                  Mike Mullikin wrote: Nothing is said to the brat son. I think we know who is "in charge" of that family. I think the father needs to discipline the son, seems as though he doesn't want to, but maybe he was waiting until he gets home? Later,
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                  JoeSox wrote: maybe he was waiting until he gets home? Hopefully, but I doubt it. Generally his behavior indicates he is never disciplined correctly if at all. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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                    JoeSox wrote: maybe he was waiting until he gets home? Hopefully, but I doubt it. Generally his behavior indicates he is never disciplined correctly if at all. Mike Mullikin :beer:

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                    Mike Mullikin wrote: Generally his behavior indicates he is never disciplined correctly if at all. probably true.:( Later,
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                      That sucks Mike. You must have felt like kicking the parents in the stomach! Now we know why so many kids grow up into assholes. They prolly had parents of this type :( Nish

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                      Nishant S wrote: You must have felt like kicking the parents in the stomach! Absolutely! Mike Mullikin :beer:

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                        Well, if the kid his hitting his little sister, there must be hidden issues some where. I believe children do things because they can't express in words what they are feeling. For example, my parents were divorced so I was a brat from 4th grade to 8th grade:laugh: 8th grade I realized I better stop my self destructive behavior. But anyway the Parents need to stay on top of this stuff to help the development of there kids. (here ends JoeSox child development class 101) Later,
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                        JoeSox wrote: Well, if the kid his hitting his little sister, there must be hidden issues some where. From two to eight and eleven to fourteen most children enter stages of willingly causing disruption for attention, (usually from those they are affecting rather than others) -- its a power trip in part, and a way to get your own way. Older than that and they use drugs, and in that period aged nine and ten they are more interested in making friends How many times have you seen the following scenario in a shop somewhere? A kid, which will indefinitely be female, is whining “mummy, mummy can I have it please”; the mother says “no, you had one last week”; to which the child attempts to draw attention to itself (throwing a tantrum, crying, hitting the parent or a sibling, etc). Don’t think for a moment the child doesn’t understand fully what they are doing. The parent has three choices: (a) they can give in to the child’s demands, which produces spoilt brats and failed parents, (b) they can ignore the child’s demands and either carry on shopping or leave the store, which causes them immense stress and makes other people judge them as bad parents, or (c) they can smack the turd across the back of the legs and firmly repeat their decision: “no”. . How many times have you, aged about eleven, got into an argument with your parent(s), stormed off to your room in a sulk, and then proceeded to tell yourself, audibly, that either “that’s not fair I didn’t do anything” or “why don’t they believe me, sob sob, I hate them, sob sob”. That is good and should be encouraged in children. Smacking (which is not hitting, punching, or any other form of abuse for all you misinformed smacking haters out there) is a very effective method of instant child control that whilst it will never remove the undesired behaviour will contain it a good deal, and helps to reduce the likelihood of the child deliberately being disruptive to aid their demands. So many parents who have difficulty raising their children follow this absurd new-age system whereby you are not allowed to physically discipline your child at any cost because it makes them hate you, instead you must deal with the consequences yourself and then sit down and talk to them. Rubbish! You tell the lovely ‘little bundle of joy’ to stop, and if it doesn’t you smack the little bastard until it obeys you. That doesn't stop the urchin loving you -- and besides the law says you still have to feed it. (here ends common sense child deve

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                          JoeSox wrote: Well, if the kid his hitting his little sister, there must be hidden issues some where. From two to eight and eleven to fourteen most children enter stages of willingly causing disruption for attention, (usually from those they are affecting rather than others) -- its a power trip in part, and a way to get your own way. Older than that and they use drugs, and in that period aged nine and ten they are more interested in making friends How many times have you seen the following scenario in a shop somewhere? A kid, which will indefinitely be female, is whining “mummy, mummy can I have it please”; the mother says “no, you had one last week”; to which the child attempts to draw attention to itself (throwing a tantrum, crying, hitting the parent or a sibling, etc). Don’t think for a moment the child doesn’t understand fully what they are doing. The parent has three choices: (a) they can give in to the child’s demands, which produces spoilt brats and failed parents, (b) they can ignore the child’s demands and either carry on shopping or leave the store, which causes them immense stress and makes other people judge them as bad parents, or (c) they can smack the turd across the back of the legs and firmly repeat their decision: “no”. . How many times have you, aged about eleven, got into an argument with your parent(s), stormed off to your room in a sulk, and then proceeded to tell yourself, audibly, that either “that’s not fair I didn’t do anything” or “why don’t they believe me, sob sob, I hate them, sob sob”. That is good and should be encouraged in children. Smacking (which is not hitting, punching, or any other form of abuse for all you misinformed smacking haters out there) is a very effective method of instant child control that whilst it will never remove the undesired behaviour will contain it a good deal, and helps to reduce the likelihood of the child deliberately being disruptive to aid their demands. So many parents who have difficulty raising their children follow this absurd new-age system whereby you are not allowed to physically discipline your child at any cost because it makes them hate you, instead you must deal with the consequences yourself and then sit down and talk to them. Rubbish! You tell the lovely ‘little bundle of joy’ to stop, and if it doesn’t you smack the little bastard until it obeys you. That doesn't stop the urchin loving you -- and besides the law says you still have to feed it. (here ends common sense child deve

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                          David Wulff wrote: Smacking (which is not hitting, punching, or any other form of abuse for all you misinformed smacking haters out there) is a very effective method of instant child control Yes it works but you are teaching your child it is ok to smack others. What works is fear and threats. What is wrong with threatening to take away there XBox or there favorite possessions? This is also a proven method for discipline. I would rather take a non-violent approach any day. Smacking is violence any way you look at it. any way got to go visit my 16 month old :jig: talk soon:-D, Later,
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                            David Wulff wrote: Smacking (which is not hitting, punching, or any other form of abuse for all you misinformed smacking haters out there) is a very effective method of instant child control Yes it works but you are teaching your child it is ok to smack others. What works is fear and threats. What is wrong with threatening to take away there XBox or there favorite possessions? This is also a proven method for discipline. I would rather take a non-violent approach any day. Smacking is violence any way you look at it. any way got to go visit my 16 month old :jig: talk soon:-D, Later,
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                            JoeSox wrote: Yes it works but you are teaching your child it is ok to smack others. Absolute rubbish! I don't know anyone personally who was not smacked as a child, myself included, and not one of them is at all or has been at all violent. Don't go believing that "you are teaching your child it is ok to smack others" rhetoric because it simply isn't true. JoeSox wrote: Smacking is violence any way you look at it. Smacking works so well because it relies on the love present between the smacker and the smackee* and the fact the child knows both what they ahve done wrong and that they are about to be smacked. Love is a very powerful connection that can stretch to extraordinary limits and not be scathed: love holds partners to their abusive wives and husbands, and sexually abused children to their parents, and all without faltering for a second. If you have ever been smacked then you will know that it is not violence, it doesn't hurt, it doesn't leave any bruising, and it doesn't do any damage. It is exactly the same as being caned or getting the sliper at school in the good old days. It is *not* however the same as getting whiped with a belt; that is an extreme and very serious case of power abuse. * have I just invent a new word? :~ JoeSox wrote: What works is fear and threats Your example of taking away a treasured possession doesn't work, (I hope it was an example and your 16 month old doesn't have an XBox, lol), and to me is very grey-area borderline child abuse. Making your child fear your actions is a big step towards making them fear you, and that leads to violent and extreme disruptive behaviour (the kind of child who picks fights with teachers or rips up text books and smashes windows). Ask yourself the cliche "would you want what you do to them done to you?" As a five year old would it make you stop or would it make you throw a tantrum? Remember children can grow up hating their parents for not disciplining them, and end up blaming all of life's problems on their upbringing. Children have the "attention seeking" aspect of their behaviour built into them by design. Have you ever seen the Simpsons episode where they show Ned's parents? That was a very clever episode showing the disasterous effects of innefective child displine on the one person you are suposedly trying to help. There is an ad on British television from the NSPCC (National Society for the P

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                              ...just shouldn't be parents!!! :mad: The story: My daughter and I went into our favorite Mexican restaurant for lunch today. They have the world's greatest spicy pork tacos. Mmmmmmmm! Soon after sitting down I hear this small girl (approx 3 yrs. old) nearby start screaming bloody murder. I see she is sitting in a booth with her older brother (approx 10 yrs. old). Her parents are sitting in the adjacent booth with an older daughter (approx 13 yrs. old). They ignore the screams while talking to each other and the oldest girl (who looks completely disgusted about even being there). Finally when the screams become blood curdling the parents ask why she is crying. She says her brother hit her. He loudly denies it in a nasally, whiney voice. They talk to the little one for a minute and she eventually stops. A few minutes later I see the boy lightly punch the little girl in the back of her ribs and then quick turn back to his meal. Naturally the little girls wails and the hole process is repeated. This routine repeats several times over the course of about 15 minutes. Everybody in the joint is tired of hearing the crying and knows the boy is to blame. Finally mom and dad decide it's time to leave. They all get up and the little girl and her older brother head to a door near the front of the building. Mom, dad and sister start towards the side door. The father tells the son "Don't go out that door, we're parked over here." The son rolls his eyes in annoyance and opens the door anyway. The little girl darts past him and into the path of a car in the parking lot! :eek: Luckily the teenage driver was paying attention and screeched to a stop literally inches from the girl who has now fallen. The mother sees all of this and merely walks over to the scared child and glares at the stunned driver as if it was his fault. She tells the tot to get up off the pavement and walks slowly to the family minivan. Nothing is said to the brat son. Sadly I feel like there is nothing I can do. :| Mike Mullikin :beer:

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                              Wow Mike, you're usually fairly opinioned (I mean that in a nice way). If it was me, I would have gone over there and told them that they were a good argument for people being neutered at birth, in a process that is reversible, and will be reversed after certain criteria are met. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                                David Wulff wrote: Smacking (which is not hitting, punching, or any other form of abuse for all you misinformed smacking haters out there) is a very effective method of instant child control Yes it works but you are teaching your child it is ok to smack others. What works is fear and threats. What is wrong with threatening to take away there XBox or there favorite possessions? This is also a proven method for discipline. I would rather take a non-violent approach any day. Smacking is violence any way you look at it. any way got to go visit my 16 month old :jig: talk soon:-D, Later,
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                                JoeSox wrote: Yes it works but you are teaching your child it is ok to smack others. Bollocks. JoeSox wrote: What works is fear and threats. And this teaches them.... ??? JoeSox wrote: I would rather take a non-violent approach any day. Smacking is violence any way you look at it. You've been brainwashed. Sorry. You're saying that a controlled smack is wrong, but psychological warfare is OK ? How old must a child be to understand this ? What do you do for discipline before then ? Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                                  Wow Mike, you're usually fairly opinioned (I mean that in a nice way). If it was me, I would have gone over there and told them that they were a good argument for people being neutered at birth, in a process that is reversible, and will be reversed after certain criteria are met. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                                  CG You forgot that Mike lives in the USA :-) Nish p.s. Paul has joined the exclusive 10K club, check his CP profile page where I have congratulated him for it

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                                    JoeSox wrote: Yes it works but you are teaching your child it is ok to smack others. Absolute rubbish! I don't know anyone personally who was not smacked as a child, myself included, and not one of them is at all or has been at all violent. Don't go believing that "you are teaching your child it is ok to smack others" rhetoric because it simply isn't true. JoeSox wrote: Smacking is violence any way you look at it. Smacking works so well because it relies on the love present between the smacker and the smackee* and the fact the child knows both what they ahve done wrong and that they are about to be smacked. Love is a very powerful connection that can stretch to extraordinary limits and not be scathed: love holds partners to their abusive wives and husbands, and sexually abused children to their parents, and all without faltering for a second. If you have ever been smacked then you will know that it is not violence, it doesn't hurt, it doesn't leave any bruising, and it doesn't do any damage. It is exactly the same as being caned or getting the sliper at school in the good old days. It is *not* however the same as getting whiped with a belt; that is an extreme and very serious case of power abuse. * have I just invent a new word? :~ JoeSox wrote: What works is fear and threats Your example of taking away a treasured possession doesn't work, (I hope it was an example and your 16 month old doesn't have an XBox, lol), and to me is very grey-area borderline child abuse. Making your child fear your actions is a big step towards making them fear you, and that leads to violent and extreme disruptive behaviour (the kind of child who picks fights with teachers or rips up text books and smashes windows). Ask yourself the cliche "would you want what you do to them done to you?" As a five year old would it make you stop or would it make you throw a tantrum? Remember children can grow up hating their parents for not disciplining them, and end up blaming all of life's problems on their upbringing. Children have the "attention seeking" aspect of their behaviour built into them by design. Have you ever seen the Simpsons episode where they show Ned's parents? That was a very clever episode showing the disasterous effects of innefective child displine on the one person you are suposedly trying to help. There is an ad on British television from the NSPCC (National Society for the P

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                                    David Wulff wrote: Smacking works so well because it relies on the love present between the smacker and the smackee* and the fact the child knows both what they ahve done wrong and that they are about to be smacked. PLEASE have children, David. Or adopt some. I mean it, you have it together in a major way, sadly more so than most people who breed nowadays. David Wulff wrote: Remember children can grow up hating their parents for not disciplining them, and end up blaming all of life's problems on their upbringing. You've met my sister then ? :P David Wulff wrote: Very blunt, very brutal, and very very clever. I wonder how much child abuse stems from parents NOT disciplining their kids, the kids never learn appropriate behaviour, and misbehave until the parent can't take any more. It's the parents fault for a. not teaching their kids consistently, and b. taking out anger on the child. Disipline must be controlled, and it must be consistent. You let your kids whine their way into candy at the checkout once, they will whine every other time they are at the checkout, because you taught them to. Being a parent is not just about having a bundle of joy in the house, it's about taking responsibility for teaching them how to turn into adults who are able to exist within the framework of our society. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                                      Nishant S wrote: You forgot that Mike lives in the USA I'm not sure how you mean ? Nishant S wrote: Paul has joined the exclusive 10K club There's three of us with no life now ? :P Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                                        Wow Mike, you're usually fairly opinioned (I mean that in a nice way). If it was me, I would have gone over there and told them that they were a good argument for people being neutered at birth, in a process that is reversible, and will be reversed after certain criteria are met. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                                        Christian Graus wrote: Wow Mike, you're usually fairly opinioned (I mean that in a nice way). :) I've actually mellowed over the last few years. Really!! Christian Graus wrote: If it was me, I would have gone over there and told them that they were a good argument for people being neutered at birth... I thought about it. I was so stunned when the little girl almost got hit by the car that I froze. As they were driving away, I regretted my silence. On a side note: Even after finishing our lunch (15 minutes) and talking about it on the drive home (25 minutes), I was so ticked off I had to tell someone else. My wife was off with my son somewhere, so the CP Soapbox was my first thought. :-O Mike Mullikin :beer:

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                                          David Wulff wrote: Smacking works so well because it relies on the love present between the smacker and the smackee* and the fact the child knows both what they ahve done wrong and that they are about to be smacked. PLEASE have children, David. Or adopt some. I mean it, you have it together in a major way, sadly more so than most people who breed nowadays. David Wulff wrote: Remember children can grow up hating their parents for not disciplining them, and end up blaming all of life's problems on their upbringing. You've met my sister then ? :P David Wulff wrote: Very blunt, very brutal, and very very clever. I wonder how much child abuse stems from parents NOT disciplining their kids, the kids never learn appropriate behaviour, and misbehave until the parent can't take any more. It's the parents fault for a. not teaching their kids consistently, and b. taking out anger on the child. Disipline must be controlled, and it must be consistent. You let your kids whine their way into candy at the checkout once, they will whine every other time they are at the checkout, because you taught them to. Being a parent is not just about having a bundle of joy in the house, it's about taking responsibility for teaching them how to turn into adults who are able to exist within the framework of our society. Christian NO MATTER HOW MUCH BIG IS THE WORD SIZE ,THE DATA MUCT BE TRANSPORTED INTO THE CPU. - Vinod Sharma Anonymous wrote: OK. I read a c++ book. Or...a bit of it anyway. I'm sick of that evil looking console window. I think you are a good candidate for Visual Basic. - Nemanja Trifunovic

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                                          Christian Graus wrote: PLEASE have children, David. Or adopt some. I mean it. Sorry, no can do, at least not unless I find a partner who wants to adopt, and even then I'd need to think very carefully about it. I'm about to become an uncle, twice, so I can judge firsthand if I could stick the little blighters for twenty five whole years till they bugger off and live on their own. Till then I'll stick with armchair parenting! :-D Christian Graus wrote: You've met my sister then ? Her and her hundreds of likenesses. :rolleyes: Christian Graus wrote: Being a parent is not just about having a bundle of joy in the house, it's about taking responsibility for teaching them how to turn into adults who are able to exist within the framework of our society. :five:

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