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  • M Mark_Wallace

    So I have to install the same bloated, grabs-and-keeps-100-meg-of-memory-at-boot program twice on the same machine? Besides, I'm actually looking for things that I can put on the start screen. Without skype, all I've got is the (cr)app store and a weather widget. Oh, and the goto_desktop button.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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    Richard Deeming
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    You can pin desktop applications to the start screen. And if the "modern" version doesn't work for you, you could always uninstall it.


    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

    "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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    • Richard DeemingR Richard Deeming

      You can pin desktop applications to the start screen. And if the "modern" version doesn't work for you, you could always uninstall it.


      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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      Mark_Wallace
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      Richard Deeming wrote:

      And if the "modern" version doesn't work for you, you could always uninstall it.

      I can't see it working for any business' security department -- that "phish & telnet" thing could actually work. Mind you, I don't think any businesses are using win 8 (including microsoft!), so it shouldn't be a problem.

      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      • M Mark_Wallace

        Bluddy skype on bluddy win 8! The only way to log in with a different account is by creating a new windows user with the ID/e-mail address/password of the other account. So if you have a personal account (paid for by you), a business account (paid for by them), and maybe a few project accounts issued by people you're doing contracts for (paid for by a different "them"), you have to create windows users for each, and log in to windows as the different users to use them! And having to use your windows credentials to log into a social media app has to present a security risk. Wanna get on a company's intranet? Just phish a skype account, and telnet in*. * D'you think that bit of hacking/phishing/virus-making advice will keep Bruno happy for a while?

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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        Sander Rossel
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        I've had that problem with other Windows sites and services too... Outlook, Microsoft Virtual Academy, Microsoft Certified Professional, Microsoft Support Center, Microsoft Profile... All linked to one account. Changed my email and I had to change them all (or sign in and out of my email, and on my tablet same as you) :( I hope I'll never need another Microsoft account again...

        My blog[^]

        public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
        {
        public void DoWork()
        {
        throw new NotSupportedException();
        }
        }

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          I've had that problem with other Windows sites and services too... Outlook, Microsoft Virtual Academy, Microsoft Certified Professional, Microsoft Support Center, Microsoft Profile... All linked to one account. Changed my email and I had to change them all (or sign in and out of my email, and on my tablet same as you) :( I hope I'll never need another Microsoft account again...

          My blog[^]

          public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
          {
          public void DoWork()
          {
          throw new NotSupportedException();
          }
          }

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          Mark_Wallace
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          It's given me one of those "WTF WERE THEY THINKING???" moments. Linking the computer and everything on it to an e-mail user account has to be among the worst three ideas that anyone has ever had. Even "gluing sliced bread back together" made more sense. It has to be said that it would be remarkably useful for fascist security forces, though -- you know, like the NSA that microsoft pretends it doesn't cooperate with.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          • M Mark_Wallace

            Bluddy skype on bluddy win 8! The only way to log in with a different account is by creating a new windows user with the ID/e-mail address/password of the other account. So if you have a personal account (paid for by you), a business account (paid for by them), and maybe a few project accounts issued by people you're doing contracts for (paid for by a different "them"), you have to create windows users for each, and log in to windows as the different users to use them! And having to use your windows credentials to log into a social media app has to present a security risk. Wanna get on a company's intranet? Just phish a skype account, and telnet in*. * D'you think that bit of hacking/phishing/virus-making advice will keep Bruno happy for a while?

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Slacker007
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            http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canis[^]

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            • M Mark_Wallace

              It's given me one of those "WTF WERE THEY THINKING???" moments. Linking the computer and everything on it to an e-mail user account has to be among the worst three ideas that anyone has ever had. Even "gluing sliced bread back together" made more sense. It has to be said that it would be remarkably useful for fascist security forces, though -- you know, like the NSA that microsoft pretends it doesn't cooperate with.

              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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              Sander Rossel
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              On Windows Phone, come to think of it, you first log in with your Microsoft account and from that moment on everything you do is linked to that account. So if you ever decide to take a new email address and use it to login to your phone you lose all your apps, files, progress etc. That includes apps you paid for. It's the reason why I would never ever pay for an app from the Windows Store. Oh, it's given me more than one "WTF WERE THEY THINKING???" moments :)

              My blog[^]

              public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
              {
              public void DoWork()
              {
              throw new NotSupportedException();
              }
              }

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                On Windows Phone, come to think of it, you first log in with your Microsoft account and from that moment on everything you do is linked to that account. So if you ever decide to take a new email address and use it to login to your phone you lose all your apps, files, progress etc. That includes apps you paid for. It's the reason why I would never ever pay for an app from the Windows Store. Oh, it's given me more than one "WTF WERE THEY THINKING???" moments :)

                My blog[^]

                public class SanderRossel : Lazy<Person>
                {
                public void DoWork()
                {
                throw new NotSupportedException();
                }
                }

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                Mark_Wallace
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                Even android got that right, and they're comparative newbies.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                • S Slacker007

                  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Canis[^]

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                  Mark_Wallace
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                  I see it more as http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wanker[^], and Victoria wood's take on the PC world[^] fits supremely. Hmm. That's twice in as many days I've mentioned Victoria Wood. It must be a crop-circle thing.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    Bluddy skype on bluddy win 8! The only way to log in with a different account is by creating a new windows user with the ID/e-mail address/password of the other account. So if you have a personal account (paid for by you), a business account (paid for by them), and maybe a few project accounts issued by people you're doing contracts for (paid for by a different "them"), you have to create windows users for each, and log in to windows as the different users to use them! And having to use your windows credentials to log into a social media app has to present a security risk. Wanna get on a company's intranet? Just phish a skype account, and telnet in*. * D'you think that bit of hacking/phishing/virus-making advice will keep Bruno happy for a while?

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Lost User
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                    It's a poorly written article but this[^] might help.

                    Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                    • L Lost User

                      It's a poorly written article but this[^] might help.

                      Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                      Mark_Wallace
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                      "by manually running one line of command" Translate of the google, methinks it is. If that SeaSide has a very small footprint, it may be OK, though. I'll dig in tomorrow.

                      I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                      • M Mark_Wallace

                        "by manually running one line of command" Translate of the google, methinks it is. If that SeaSide has a very small footprint, it may be OK, though. I'll dig in tomorrow.

                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                        Lost User
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                        Mark_Wallace wrote:

                        If that SeaSide has a very small footprint,

                        The d/l is 708kb - pretty unheard of in today's bloatware world. Good luck.

                        Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          Bluddy skype on bluddy win 8! The only way to log in with a different account is by creating a new windows user with the ID/e-mail address/password of the other account. So if you have a personal account (paid for by you), a business account (paid for by them), and maybe a few project accounts issued by people you're doing contracts for (paid for by a different "them"), you have to create windows users for each, and log in to windows as the different users to use them! And having to use your windows credentials to log into a social media app has to present a security risk. Wanna get on a company's intranet? Just phish a skype account, and telnet in*. * D'you think that bit of hacking/phishing/virus-making advice will keep Bruno happy for a while?

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Clodetta del Mar
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                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          log into a social media app

                          ...

                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          present a security risk

                          :confused: :doh:

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                            Richard Deeming wrote:

                            And if the "modern" version doesn't work for you, you could always uninstall it.

                            I can't see it working for any business' security department -- that "phish & telnet" thing could actually work. Mind you, I don't think any businesses are using win 8 (including microsoft!), so it shouldn't be a problem.

                            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                            Clodetta del Mar
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                            they do... ;)

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                            • M Mark_Wallace

                              So I have to install the same bloated, grabs-and-keeps-100-meg-of-memory-at-boot program twice on the same machine? Besides, I'm actually looking for things that I can put on the start screen. Without skype, all I've got is the (cr)app store and a weather widget. Oh, and the goto_desktop button.

                              I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                              tgrt
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                              That sounds like solid reasoning. :~ Seriously, the METRO version of Skype is minimalistic. I use the desktop version for some of the reasons cited as well as the fact it still has an API. It doesn't have to run at boot either.

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                              • M Mark_Wallace

                                Bluddy skype on bluddy win 8! The only way to log in with a different account is by creating a new windows user with the ID/e-mail address/password of the other account. So if you have a personal account (paid for by you), a business account (paid for by them), and maybe a few project accounts issued by people you're doing contracts for (paid for by a different "them"), you have to create windows users for each, and log in to windows as the different users to use them! And having to use your windows credentials to log into a social media app has to present a security risk. Wanna get on a company's intranet? Just phish a skype account, and telnet in*. * D'you think that bit of hacking/phishing/virus-making advice will keep Bruno happy for a while?

                                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                TheGreatAndPowerfulOz
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                                One can change the Microsoft account associated with a Windows user.

                                If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                  log into a social media app

                                  ...

                                  Mark_Wallace wrote:

                                  present a security risk

                                  :confused: :doh:

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  It's not the logging in, it's the credentials you use, which are the same credentials that give you access to the computer as a whole. As I said, if you manage to phish someone's skype log-in details, you can log in to the computer itself -- thereby gaining access to any connected network. I doubt that many companies' security bods would be happy with that. Anyway, I've uninstalled it, now, in favour of the desktop app (with different credentials), so I have only a weather widget and the (cr)app store on my start screen. What a fabulous replacement for the Start Menu it is!

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                  • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                    One can change the Microsoft account associated with a Windows user.

                                    If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                    You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                    Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                    Mark_Wallace
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                                    Sure, but you then have to log into windows 8 with the credentials of that account.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

                                      One can change the Microsoft account associated with a Windows user.

                                      If your actions inspire others to dream more, learn more, do more and become more, you are a leader.-John Q. Adams
                                      You must accept one of two basic premises: Either we are alone in the universe, or we are not alone in the universe. And either way, the implications are staggering.-Wernher von Braun
                                      Only two things are infinite, the universe and human stupidity, and I'm not sure about the former.-Albert Einstein

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                                      PIEBALDconsult
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                                      Or not have an email address associated with it at all.

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                                      • M Mark_Wallace

                                        Bluddy skype on bluddy win 8! The only way to log in with a different account is by creating a new windows user with the ID/e-mail address/password of the other account. So if you have a personal account (paid for by you), a business account (paid for by them), and maybe a few project accounts issued by people you're doing contracts for (paid for by a different "them"), you have to create windows users for each, and log in to windows as the different users to use them! And having to use your windows credentials to log into a social media app has to present a security risk. Wanna get on a company's intranet? Just phish a skype account, and telnet in*. * D'you think that bit of hacking/phishing/virus-making advice will keep Bruno happy for a while?

                                        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                        PIEBALDconsult
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                                        Oh. I thought Hillary was up to something again.

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                                          Oh. I thought Hillary was up to something again.

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                                          Mark_Wallace
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                                          That would be century, not week.

                                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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