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  • L Lost User

    Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

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    ravikhoda
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    selenium and qtp are good option. Not sure how effective but firefox have selenium expert extension. you can install it and check that.

    Ravi Khoda

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    • L Lost User

      Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      This[^] is a fascinating tool, me think :-D

      Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

      "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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      • L Lost User

        Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

        PooperPig - Coming Soon

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        DJ van Wyk
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        Depending on what tech is used to develop the systems you could also look into TFS Test Manager. And if you want to automate from there you can add TFS Lab Manager. Both also hook nicely into the source control and bug/task tracking subsystems.

        My plan is to live forever ... so far so good

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        • L Lost User

          Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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          KarstenK
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          Testing is often a part of the IDE an/or the operating system. So developer can also do a good job on testing.

          Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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          • L Lost User

            Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

            PooperPig - Coming Soon

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            Lost User
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            _Maxxx_ wrote:

            (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart.

            Testers must be destructive.

            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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            • L Lost User

              _Maxxx_ wrote:

              (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart.

              Testers must be destructive.

              The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
              This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
              "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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              OriginalGriff
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              I've got a BIG hammer. Does that count?

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

              "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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              • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                I've got a BIG hammer. Does that count?

                Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                Agent__007
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                That depends. Can you lift it up? :laugh:

                Your time will come, if you let it be right.

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                • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                  I've got a BIG hammer. Does that count?

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                  Lost User
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                  Thor, are you going to do some unit tests with frost giants again?

                  The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                  This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                  "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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                    That depends. Can you lift it up? :laugh:

                    Your time will come, if you let it be right.

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                    OriginalGriff
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                    I can get it up, yes. And I can lift my chopper[^] too!

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                    "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                    "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                    • L Lost User

                      Thor, are you going to do some unit tests with frost giants again?

                      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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                      OriginalGriff
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                      Not until they get the bugs out of Ragnarök V2.0

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                      "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                      "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                        Not until they get the bugs out of Ragnarök V2.0

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        Lost User
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                        It already must be a bug if Thor survived Ragnarök 1.0

                        The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                        "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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                        • K KarstenK

                          Testing is often a part of the IDE an/or the operating system. So developer can also do a good job on testing.

                          Press F1 for help or google it. Greetings from Germany

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                          Lost User
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                          #13

                          ?!

                          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                          • L Lost User

                            _Maxxx_ wrote:

                            (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart.

                            Testers must be destructive.

                            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada."

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                            Lost User
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                            well, she has broken a few hearts ...

                            PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                            • L Lost User

                              Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

                              PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                              Rage
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                              Testing is for sissies. Which might unfortunately apply literaly, given the description you provided.

                              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                              • L Lost User

                                Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

                                PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                werinus
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                                i have years of experience in test automation (even developed a test tool for ui automation myself) and i can tell you, that test automation is essentially software development. you develop software (sometimes with the help of powerful libs) to automate other software. most of the tools provide some capture replay functionality but to be honest capture replay does not work well. its like programming spagetti code ;) what you will want is dev know-how to write scripts/tests in a programming language. i can recommend ranorex as a very versatile tool with a very nice c# api.

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                                • W werinus

                                  i have years of experience in test automation (even developed a test tool for ui automation myself) and i can tell you, that test automation is essentially software development. you develop software (sometimes with the help of powerful libs) to automate other software. most of the tools provide some capture replay functionality but to be honest capture replay does not work well. its like programming spagetti code ;) what you will want is dev know-how to write scripts/tests in a programming language. i can recommend ranorex as a very versatile tool with a very nice c# api.

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                                  Lost User
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                                  Thanks; I figured there's got to be some level of coding - even if it is 'only' some scripting. I hadn't heard of ranorex - I just gave the web page a quick squiz and it does look interesting... I may have to give our tester some programming lessons !

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                                    Thanks; I figured there's got to be some level of coding - even if it is 'only' some scripting. I hadn't heard of ranorex - I just gave the web page a quick squiz and it does look interesting... I may have to give our tester some programming lessons !

                                    PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                    werinus
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                                    well i think if you want to be productive in test automation you will quickly see recurring patterns emerge that you will want to encapsulate to increase productivity. well thats where programmings starts :) you will want to look into concepts like PageObjects to reduce the impacts changes have.

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                                    • L Lost User

                                      Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

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                                      9082365
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                                      Testing? By a personage not involved in the coding? People do that? Ah, go on. You're having a giraffe. :laugh: Next you'll be telling me that level designers for Candy Crush actually play the game!

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                                      • L Lost User

                                        Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

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                                        Fabio Franco
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                                        Microsoft Test Manager[^]

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                                        • L Lost User

                                          Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing; She knows little about it, is not particularly technical (i.e. not a dev) but is keen and smart. I have literally no experience of any testing tools, so I am hoping you lovely chaps will be able to recommend some you may have used, and give me a bit of an overview of what makes 'em good (or bad!) :)

                                          PooperPig - Coming Soon

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                                          jschell
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                                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                          Our lovely Tester is looking into automated testing

                                          First is to determine what the exact interface(s) is to be tested and how. If you want to test an IE browser client on windows 7 it is substantially different than testing a GUI application on win 95-win 10 and max OSX and still again different if you want to do security testing on a Rest API. Of course presumably you already use a unit testing framework yourself.

                                          _Maxxx_ wrote:

                                          She knows little about it, is not particularly technical

                                          In my experience non trivial testing of non-trivial applications is going to require 'programming' in some sense of the word. Not in the languages that you are familiar with but in rather in terms of the testing tools. Complex tests or complex applications could also require supplementary tools written (probably by a developer) to supplement testing. One complex case can be creating and managing versions of test data and loading that data into a database to allow version testing with a database.

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