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  • P PIEBALDconsult

    Mark_Wallace wrote:

    How much is VS now?

    Free.

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    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

    Free

    You typoed "$4,249" Oh, wait! It's gone up since I bought it! I think they've kept the increase in line with inflation, though. Now it's $13,200.

    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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      Going through a recently deceased friends stuff. In box that I opened labeled Borland, I found manuals and 3.5 "floppy" disks for C, C++ and objective C along with a receipt for $70 bucks from local vendor that he bought stuff from. My estimation is it's worthless and I should just toss it into the stove. But you never now, it could be like great great aunt Jemima's fry pan from the 1800's and worth a few bucks. No one selling it on the inter-webs so I assume no value?

      Rage against the narrative.

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      Dan Colasanti
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      Similar items seem to be going for between $20 and $50 on eBay[^]

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      • L Lost User

        Going through a recently deceased friends stuff. In box that I opened labeled Borland, I found manuals and 3.5 "floppy" disks for C, C++ and objective C along with a receipt for $70 bucks from local vendor that he bought stuff from. My estimation is it's worthless and I should just toss it into the stove. But you never now, it could be like great great aunt Jemima's fry pan from the 1800's and worth a few bucks. No one selling it on the inter-webs so I assume no value?

        Rage against the narrative.

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        Jochen Arndt
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        You may give it a try. In 2004 I offered a ten year old SuSE Linux CD box (kernel 1.0.9) at eBay. I was selling some other items and just added this without expecting it to be sold. But it raised up to EUR 25.50.

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        • J JimmyRopes

          Eggbert Bartholomew Bligh wrote:

          I found manuals and 3.5 "floppy" disks for C, C++ and objective C

          I have a box of floppy disks that I was looking at a few weeks ago and realized that I haven't had a floppy disk on any of my machines in many years. I don't even know where I would find one to be able to retrieve the data.

          Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs

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          I have a bin of 3.5 drives, might bundle the Borland stuff with a 3.5 drive. Thanks.

          Rage against the narrative.

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            I have a bin of 3.5 drives, might bundle the Borland stuff with a 3.5 drive. Thanks.

            Rage against the narrative.

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            JimmyRopes
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            Eggbert Bartholomew Bligh wrote:

            I have a bin of 3.5 drives, might bundle the Borland stuff with a 3.5 drive.

            That might help find someone interested in getting the compilers. I, personally, wouldn't want to go back to the old compilers, but you never know there may be someone interested?

            Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs

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            • L Lost User

              Going through a recently deceased friends stuff. In box that I opened labeled Borland, I found manuals and 3.5 "floppy" disks for C, C++ and objective C along with a receipt for $70 bucks from local vendor that he bought stuff from. My estimation is it's worthless and I should just toss it into the stove. But you never now, it could be like great great aunt Jemima's fry pan from the 1800's and worth a few bucks. No one selling it on the inter-webs so I assume no value?

              Rage against the narrative.

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              Roger Wright
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              As others have said, it's probably of little or no value, but some folks out there might like it for sentimental reasons. I think I still have Turbo Pascal 5.5 around here, along with Turbo ASM, but they're on 5 1/4" floppy disks, and I no longer have a drive to read them. Still, it's kinda fun to read through the manuals (yes, there was this thing called 'documentation' once upon a time) now and then. :-D

              Will Rogers never met me.

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                As others have said, it's probably of little or no value, but some folks out there might like it for sentimental reasons. I think I still have Turbo Pascal 5.5 around here, along with Turbo ASM, but they're on 5 1/4" floppy disks, and I no longer have a drive to read them. Still, it's kinda fun to read through the manuals (yes, there was this thing called 'documentation' once upon a time) now and then. :-D

                Will Rogers never met me.

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                Daniel Pfeffer
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                Before chucking my 5".25 and 3".5 drives, I made sure that all of my stuff on floppies was copied to CDs. I can't imagine any reason for me to want to install the 16-bit stuff, but if I ever want to take a trip down memory lane - it's all there...

                If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                  Before chucking my 5".25 and 3".5 drives, I made sure that all of my stuff on floppies was copied to CDs. I can't imagine any reason for me to want to install the 16-bit stuff, but if I ever want to take a trip down memory lane - it's all there...

                  If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                  Roger Wright
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                  :-D :-D

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                  • M Mark_Wallace

                    PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                    Free

                    You typoed "$4,249" Oh, wait! It's gone up since I bought it! I think they've kept the increase in line with inflation, though. Now it's $13,200.

                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    PIEBALDconsult
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                    Visual Studio is overkill for most stuff I do, so I would never pay more than about $100. I think I also paid about $100 for Turbo Pascal 5 when I was in college. Back in 2003 I bought "Visual C# .net Standard" (VS 2002 with C# only, similar to Express) for about $100 -- the only version I ever bought and I wouldn't pay more than that. I went to the roll-outs for VS 2005 and VS 2008 so I got those free. And I got 2010 (Pro) through DreamSpark. At work I have VS 2012 Ultimate, but they have me using SSIS mostly. For most programming I do, I have my own simple IDE, that does what I need with no extra bulk.

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                      As others have said, it's probably of little or no value, but some folks out there might like it for sentimental reasons. I think I still have Turbo Pascal 5.5 around here, along with Turbo ASM, but they're on 5 1/4" floppy disks, and I no longer have a drive to read them. Still, it's kinda fun to read through the manuals (yes, there was this thing called 'documentation' once upon a time) now and then. :-D

                      Will Rogers never met me.

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                      PIEBALDconsult
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                      Roger Wright wrote:

                      they're on 5 1/4" floppy disks, and I no longer have a drive to read them

                      I have one. :jig:

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                      • P PIEBALDconsult

                        Visual Studio is overkill for most stuff I do, so I would never pay more than about $100. I think I also paid about $100 for Turbo Pascal 5 when I was in college. Back in 2003 I bought "Visual C# .net Standard" (VS 2002 with C# only, similar to Express) for about $100 -- the only version I ever bought and I wouldn't pay more than that. I went to the roll-outs for VS 2005 and VS 2008 so I got those free. And I got 2010 (Pro) through DreamSpark. At work I have VS 2012 Ultimate, but they have me using SSIS mostly. For most programming I do, I have my own simple IDE, that does what I need with no extra bulk.

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                        Mark_Wallace
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                        PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                        Visual Studio is overkill for most stuff I do

                        That's the biggest point. Mostly, what I need is a text editor with a few extras to allow easy compilation, project structuring, etc (and maybe a graphical form designer, now and then). VS these days is like using a Google data centre to browse the net.

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                        • M Mark_Wallace

                          PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                          Visual Studio is overkill for most stuff I do

                          That's the biggest point. Mostly, what I need is a text editor with a few extras to allow easy compilation, project structuring, etc (and maybe a graphical form designer, now and then). VS these days is like using a Google data centre to browse the net.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          easy compilation

                          Got that. F6 to compile and F5 to compile and run. Languages are configurable; I have C#, VB.net, and VC++.

                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          project structuring

                          No. Like Turbo, it's "just freakin' compile the files* I have open right now, I don't want to have to define a 'Project', especially if it's a non-portable proprietary format". * Tabbed interface.

                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          graphical form designer

                          No. If I need that I use VS. I also use VS when I need a debugger (which is a crutch I was taught not to depend on). VS is also good for exploring an unfamiliar namespace. Other features are: Regex find and replace. (I might add history for those.) Some formatting ability, but not much. Support for wildcards and such on the command line to specify which files to open. Plus the ability to specify a Regex on the command line to filter which files to open.

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                          • J JimmyRopes

                            PIEBALDconsult wrote:

                            I have both 5.25" and 3.5" drives, but I can only use one at a time.

                            I remember when machines came with 2 floppy drives, A and B, installed. That is the reason the default "hard drive" is the C drive. Seems so long ago.

                            Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs

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                            PIEBALDconsult
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                            My first PC had one dual 3.5" / 5.25" drive. Sweeeet!

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                              Going through a recently deceased friends stuff. In box that I opened labeled Borland, I found manuals and 3.5 "floppy" disks for C, C++ and objective C along with a receipt for $70 bucks from local vendor that he bought stuff from. My estimation is it's worthless and I should just toss it into the stove. But you never now, it could be like great great aunt Jemima's fry pan from the 1800's and worth a few bucks. No one selling it on the inter-webs so I assume no value?

                              Rage against the narrative.

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                              Philippe Mori
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                              If the disks are that old, then they might not works anymore... At some points, I try to read many of the old ones that I have and maybe half of them were not readable anymore. I don't know if "original" disks were somewhat better than end-user disks (as it would be the case for pressed vs burned CDs). In particular, those disk were sensible to magnetic fields so if disks were stored too close of magnetic objects, then their live would be much shorter. Then as it is 16 bit stuff, you need an OS able to run that too. And the langage itself has changed a lot since then.

                              Philippe Mori

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                My first PC had one dual 3.5" / 5.25" drive. Sweeeet!

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                                grralph1
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                                My 4th PC had a 3.5" and an 8.0" FDD. Unfortunately, even after buggering around with the skew table, the 8.0" only held about a quarter of the data that the 3.5" disk would hold. Very disappointing at the time. It was sweet having 5.25" and 3.5" as you could read, see and install anything.

                                "Rock journalism is people who can't write interviewing people who can't talk for people who can't read." Frank Zappa 1980

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                                • J JimmyRopes

                                  Eggbert Bartholomew Bligh wrote:

                                  I found manuals and 3.5 "floppy" disks for C, C++ and objective C

                                  I have a box of floppy disks that I was looking at a few weeks ago and realized that I haven't had a floppy disk on any of my machines in many years. I don't even know where I would find one to be able to retrieve the data.

                                  Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs

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                                  Mark_Wallace
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                                  I've got a 3.5" floppy drive with a USB cable. I can't for the life of me remember where I bought it, but they must be on e-bay. Indeed they are[^]! Mine's prettier than that one, so you might want to search further, if it's for an apple machine.

                                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    I've got a 3.5" floppy drive with a USB cable. I can't for the life of me remember where I bought it, but they must be on e-bay. Indeed they are[^]! Mine's prettier than that one, so you might want to search further, if it's for an apple machine.

                                    I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                                    JimmyRopes
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                                    Thanks for the link but I will most likely toss to floppies. There is only one I am even remotely interested in searching, but it contains data I haven't needed in the past 20 years.

                                    Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs

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                                      Eggbert Bartholomew Bligh wrote:

                                      I found manuals and 3.5 "floppy" disks for C, C++ and objective C

                                      I have a box of floppy disks that I was looking at a few weeks ago and realized that I haven't had a floppy disk on any of my machines in many years. I don't even know where I would find one to be able to retrieve the data.

                                      Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs

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                                      milo xml
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                                      I have an old floppy drive out of a Dell laptop that I found had a micro usb plug in it. I use that whenever I need a floppy.

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                                        Going through a recently deceased friends stuff. In box that I opened labeled Borland, I found manuals and 3.5 "floppy" disks for C, C++ and objective C along with a receipt for $70 bucks from local vendor that he bought stuff from. My estimation is it's worthless and I should just toss it into the stove. But you never now, it could be like great great aunt Jemima's fry pan from the 1800's and worth a few bucks. No one selling it on the inter-webs so I assume no value?

                                        Rage against the narrative.

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                                        GenJerDan
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                                        Went through all my old software recently. Always an adventure. I bought it. I probably even used at one time or another. But I don't recall the first thing about Object Vision. ;P

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                                        • J JimmyRopes

                                          Eggbert Bartholomew Bligh wrote:

                                          I found manuals and 3.5 "floppy" disks for C, C++ and objective C

                                          I have a box of floppy disks that I was looking at a few weeks ago and realized that I haven't had a floppy disk on any of my machines in many years. I don't even know where I would find one to be able to retrieve the data.

                                          Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs

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                                          ajhampson
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                                          I had to go buy a "vintage" system so I could pull still valid information from 5 1/4" disks and see which ones needed to be shredded. On eBay, prices for "vintage" systems are through the roof; as much as or more than they cost originally. It's nuts!

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