Windows 10 Thoughts, Anyone?
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
"If it ain't broken, donut fixit"... Wait until you have compelling reasons to upgrade (mainly software/libraries that stop supporting old versions of Windows)
I'd rather be phishing!
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
Windows is becoming closed development platform and service based platform instead of one time licensing fee. Proceed with caution and look for alternatives if you want be in control over your own computing environment.
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
Depends. If it's "OS as a service", they can keep it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Windows is becoming closed development platform and service based platform instead of one time licensing fee. Proceed with caution and look for alternatives if you want be in control over your own computing environment.
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
Just from my experience with MS products I'd stand well back until the other shoe drops. Even as far back as DOS, 6.0 was a disaster that destroyed many a user's HDD data before it was fixed with 6.1; Particularly if they're letting Win 7 users upgrade for free, I can not help but think that it's bait on some hook. Maybe just because Win8 is a flop and they need to pull the Win users back onto the same level as best they can, but I don't trust in corporate altruism (an oxymoron if ever there was one). And what about intrusiveness - I keep trying to control updates to Win7 PC's so they don't happen at bad times - and it keeps getting set back to them doing it to me, anyway. Maybe some Lenovo inspired spyware as part of the O/S? I'd take a step back until they clear the bodies.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
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Just from my experience with MS products I'd stand well back until the other shoe drops. Even as far back as DOS, 6.0 was a disaster that destroyed many a user's HDD data before it was fixed with 6.1; Particularly if they're letting Win 7 users upgrade for free, I can not help but think that it's bait on some hook. Maybe just because Win8 is a flop and they need to pull the Win users back onto the same level as best they can, but I don't trust in corporate altruism (an oxymoron if ever there was one). And what about intrusiveness - I keep trying to control updates to Win7 PC's so they don't happen at bad times - and it keeps getting set back to them doing it to me, anyway. Maybe some Lenovo inspired spyware as part of the O/S? I'd take a step back until they clear the bodies.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I remember those days very well. I got Win2000 for free (back when they had the Insider program and served lunches), and it fixed everything on my PC that I never got to work properly under Win95. That lulled me into a false sense of security and trust. Then the updates started coming in, and every third one destroyed the computer and forced me to rebuild from scratch. That continued up through 98SE, then got a little better with XP, and I've had very few issues with Win 7. It seems they're getting a bit better at this stuff, finally. I'm thinking I'll wait until the Win 10 release is about 6 months old, clone my current hard drive to something removable, then try the experiment. If my PC survives, then we'll consider it for work.
Will Rogers never met me.
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
I haven't looked at it yet, but... I'll probably upgrade. MS have a habit of "Good one" followed by "Cr@p one" followed by "Good one" again, and TBH I don't think they can afford to mess up too badly after the débâcle of Win8. It was meant to be a "uniting OS" pushing market share into the mobile market, leveraging their share from the desktop market. That failed, badly - and expensively - and probably improved the competitions position in all markets. They aren't dumb; they know the damage it will do if their "core users" don't go along with them this time. I think it'll be a good one. (Damn well hope so!)
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I haven't looked at it yet, but... I'll probably upgrade. MS have a habit of "Good one" followed by "Cr@p one" followed by "Good one" again, and TBH I don't think they can afford to mess up too badly after the débâcle of Win8. It was meant to be a "uniting OS" pushing market share into the mobile market, leveraging their share from the desktop market. That failed, badly - and expensively - and probably improved the competitions position in all markets. They aren't dumb; they know the damage it will do if their "core users" don't go along with them this time. I think it'll be a good one. (Damn well hope so!)
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OriginalGriff wrote:
(Damn well hope so!)
Me, too, Griff! :-D
Will Rogers never met me.
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Depends. If it's "OS as a service", they can keep it.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Mark_Wallace wrote:
OS as a service
Apparently not YET, yet being the operative word.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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I haven't looked at it yet, but... I'll probably upgrade. MS have a habit of "Good one" followed by "Cr@p one" followed by "Good one" again, and TBH I don't think they can afford to mess up too badly after the débâcle of Win8. It was meant to be a "uniting OS" pushing market share into the mobile market, leveraging their share from the desktop market. That failed, badly - and expensively - and probably improved the competitions position in all markets. They aren't dumb; they know the damage it will do if their "core users" don't go along with them this time. I think it'll be a good one. (Damn well hope so!)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
I'm hoping that win10 is a good one. If it proves to be a flop, I'll be switching to Apple or securing a copy of one of the UX platforms from one of the university labs.
The difficult may take time, the impossible a little longer.
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Personally I would upgrade to windows 10 - it is pretty easy to ignore the touch stuff in Windows 10 and I wouldn't be happy with unsupported software given the number of bad guys looking for exploits etc.
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
I will upgrade in a heartbeat. I've been using windows 8.1 for a while now and despite wanting to pull my hairs out on the first few weeks, I barely feel I'm not using Windows 7 anymore. 8.1 improved usability a lot over 8.0 for desktop users. I can only expect Windows 10 will be much better.
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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I haven't looked at it yet, but... I'll probably upgrade. MS have a habit of "Good one" followed by "Cr@p one" followed by "Good one" again, and TBH I don't think they can afford to mess up too badly after the débâcle of Win8. It was meant to be a "uniting OS" pushing market share into the mobile market, leveraging their share from the desktop market. That failed, badly - and expensively - and probably improved the competitions position in all markets. They aren't dumb; they know the damage it will do if their "core users" don't go along with them this time. I think it'll be a good one. (Damn well hope so!)
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
I think it'll be a good one.
But, but, they skipped the good one, Windows 9, so we will have a bad one again :sigh:
To alcohol! The cause of, and solution to, all of life's problems - Homer Simpson ---- Our heads are round so our thoughts can change direction - Francis Picabia
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One of the hardware requirements is SecureBoot. You definitely want all of your non-developer relatives to upgrade.
Only for the mobile versions. Speculation in the comments on the winbeta article from the Insider are that even that is probably only a logo requirement for OEMs. That makes sense to me too; otherwise they'd completely undercut the intended benefit of offering free upgrades to lots of existing customers.
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
Everything since XP has been basically the same kernel, a few added userland features, and a different window manager (user interface). I've been on Windows 10 for about 3 months. I'm still finding and reporting bugs, but nothing major, and only UI stuff. There was nothing wrong with Windows 8, except they made bad decisions about the UI. A replacement shell like Classic Shell makes it fine. However, a clean install of Windows 8 is about 20 gigabytes. I can't think of a good reason to migrate a server from 2008 to 2012 until security patches are discontinued.
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
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Waow it's all doom and gloom here so far! I think Windows 10 looks great, will be upgrading as soon as I can. As long as you are tech-savvy, you can always roll back if things go wrong.
Haha, no joke. Doom and gloom galore! I upgrade all of my dev systems, dev servers and sqa servers every December. Windows, office, visual studio, SQL management, SQL server, TFS, etc. Takes about 4 hours to go through all 10 systems. Then I upgrade staging/production every februrary, after a 2 month burn in. I have not had an upgrade problem since SQL 2000 - SQL 2005. So for 10 years, I've been upgrading 2 months after MS releases all their stuff, not one problem that was worth committing to my brain's storage. In my experience, people hesitate over fear of the unknown, or hate towards Microsoft, or lack of funds to be on SA/msdn/bizspark. But for productivity, I'd upgrade and always stay current. Try getting a job in quick basic on novell netware! Shoot, try getting a job in .net 2.0 and VS 2005. Interviewers will laugh you out of the building if you don't stay current. Robert
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
I think after android most general people are now aware of open source and people will soon shift their all personal computer uses to linux distributions thats why windows 10 will not be successful much. Another reason windows 10 will be free upgrade even for pirated users the value of windows will now decrease. A nightmare for everybody is that after announcing windows 10 free, microsoft may not integrate adwares to its operating system :^)
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I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?
Will Rogers never met me.
I've been testing Win 10 since its first preview release and find it to be an excellent OS. That said, it is different than Win 7 from a user's point of view. So I suggest you base your decision on your 12 users. How adaptable are they? Perhaps it's better to consider how change-resistant are they? I've been programming since before there were PCs and the most difficult part of any job has not been the implementation of the change, but rather the change itself. People are very resistant to change in their work environments and that in itself can be enough to scuttle some projects. The Win server 2008 is a non-issue. Hope this helps Murray
