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  • R Roger Wright

    I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?

    Will Rogers never met me.

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    Faizan Jaffer
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    I think after android most general people are now aware of open source and people will soon shift their all personal computer uses to linux distributions thats why windows 10 will not be successful much. Another reason windows 10 will be free upgrade even for pirated users the value of windows will now decrease. A nightmare for everybody is that after announcing windows 10 free, microsoft may not integrate adwares to its operating system :^)

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    • R Roger Wright

      I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?

      Will Rogers never met me.

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      Murray Whipps
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      I've been testing Win 10 since its first preview release and find it to be an excellent OS. That said, it is different than Win 7 from a user's point of view. So I suggest you base your decision on your 12 users. How adaptable are they? Perhaps it's better to consider how change-resistant are they? I've been programming since before there were PCs and the most difficult part of any job has not been the implementation of the change, but rather the change itself. People are very resistant to change in their work environments and that in itself can be enough to scuttle some projects. The Win server 2008 is a non-issue. Hope this helps Murray

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      • M Maximilien

        "If it ain't broken, donut fixit"... Wait until you have compelling reasons to upgrade (mainly software/libraries that stop supporting old versions of Windows)

        I'd rather be phishing!

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        SteveS TrippStudios
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        Compelling Reason. FREE for first year.

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        • W W Balboos GHB

          Just from my experience with MS products I'd stand well back until the other shoe drops. Even as far back as DOS, 6.0 was a disaster that destroyed many a user's HDD data before it was fixed with 6.1; Particularly if they're letting Win 7 users upgrade for free, I can not help but think that it's bait on some hook. Maybe just because Win8 is a flop and they need to pull the Win users back onto the same level as best they can, but I don't trust in corporate altruism (an oxymoron if ever there was one). And what about intrusiveness - I keep trying to control updates to Win7 PC's so they don't happen at bad times - and it keeps getting set back to them doing it to me, anyway. Maybe some Lenovo inspired spyware as part of the O/S? I'd take a step back until they clear the bodies.

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

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          Bait on some hook? Nah, SOMEONE'S trying to get their app store a userbase. Android went from nothing to 2 billion in a few years.

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          • S SteveS TrippStudios

            Compelling Reason. FREE for first year.

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            Compelling anti-reason - free for the first year ... then what?

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            • L Lost User

              I'd recommend OpenSUSE or Ubuntu, with Wine and Mono.

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              If you are using Mono why would you need Wine? Considering Gnome is built on mono.

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                If you are using Mono why would you need Wine? Considering Gnome is built on mono.

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                They're not the same thing, and one thing does not replace the other. Mono is a .NET implementation, while Wine is a WinAPI implementation. I'm using Mono to run my .NET projects, Wine for small windows-applications that I love, like Notepad++.

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                Considering Gnome is built on mono.

                Gnome existed before Mono :)

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                • R Roger Wright

                  I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?

                  Will Rogers never met me.

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                  :rose:10 for the money. 10 for the glory. 10 for the world. Viva la revolución!

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                  • L Lost User

                    They're not the same thing, and one thing does not replace the other. Mono is a .NET implementation, while Wine is a WinAPI implementation. I'm using Mono to run my .NET projects, Wine for small windows-applications that I love, like Notepad++.

                    SteveS@TrippStudios wrote:

                    Considering Gnome is built on mono.

                    Gnome existed before Mono :)

                    Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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                    Agreed. Gnome was before Mono, latest version though is mono-based. Run ubuntu 14.10 on vm in win8, always nice to be able to check things from multiple perspectives. Even have xamarin studios on my RPi 2 :laugh:

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                      Compelling anti-reason - free for the first year ... then what?

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                      SteveS TrippStudios
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                      If it goes to OSaaS you stop there, if you want. Otherwise people have been on XP since 2001, and been on IE 6 since then too.

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                      • S SteveS TrippStudios

                        Agreed. Gnome was before Mono, latest version though is mono-based. Run ubuntu 14.10 on vm in win8, always nice to be able to check things from multiple perspectives. Even have xamarin studios on my RPi 2 :laugh:

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                        SteveS@TrippStudios wrote:

                        Gnome was before Mono, latest version though is mono-based.

                        Cool, you learn something new every day here :)

                        SteveS@TrippStudios wrote:

                        Even have xamarin studios on my RPi 2 :laugh:

                        I don't have Xamarin on there, but Samba is already installed. Too bad there's no network here, could be fun.

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                        • R Roger Wright

                          I've been hearing about Windows 10 being a free upgrade to current Win 7 users, and it's got me thinking about upgrades. I use Win 7 at home, of course, but my office uses Win 7, as well, and has about a dozen users. Since I haven't bothered to keep up with new developments in the Windows world, owing to being buried in work, can anyone suggest a good reason not to upgrade when it becomes available? Bear in mind that I/we have no intention of ever using a touch interface for anything, now or forever, and we no longer have any "legacy" software to support in the company; I think we're in a good position to upgrade, skipping all the garbage attendant to the whole Win 8 travesty. Does it matter that the office currently uses a Win Server 2008 and we don't plan to upgrade to 2012? Am I missing anything that I should know about here?

                          Will Rogers never met me.

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                          Frank Silva
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                          Maybe the hardest reason not to upgrade as soon as it is available is that it is not in your DNA or in your companies DNA. So expect a few generations of employees to mutate and acquire the skills to be early ad safe adopters.

                          Frank Silva

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