Why are law makers not bringing in DNE like DNC?
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We have a DNC (Do Not Call) setup to block unsolicited calls. Similarly why can not law makers bring in something like DNE (Do Not Email). The amount of spam or UCE at times is nerve-racking.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage You can not step into the same river twice.
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We have a DNC (Do Not Call) setup to block unsolicited calls. Similarly why can not law makers bring in something like DNE (Do Not Email). The amount of spam or UCE at times is nerve-racking.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage You can not step into the same river twice.
Well, we have a similar thing to DNC in the UK, but... 1) The worst companies ignore it anyway. 2) It doesn't apply to calls from outside the UK. Hence, I keep a 100dB+ air horn beside the phone... Legal attempts to block spam emails would work just as well: how many of the ones you receive come from within your own country? Your government can't do anything about ones from outside! But...Outlook has rules: and one of mine is that it is free to delete anything which arrives from a Russian (.RU, .SU, or .РФ) domain. This reduced the spam by over 50% immediately.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Well, we have a similar thing to DNC in the UK, but... 1) The worst companies ignore it anyway. 2) It doesn't apply to calls from outside the UK. Hence, I keep a 100dB+ air horn beside the phone... Legal attempts to block spam emails would work just as well: how many of the ones you receive come from within your own country? Your government can't do anything about ones from outside! But...Outlook has rules: and one of mine is that it is free to delete anything which arrives from a Russian (.RU, .SU, or .РФ) domain. This reduced the spam by over 50% immediately.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
Your government can't do anything about ones from outside!
Within continental US, the torturous telemarketers are those Remit2India and Phone Calling Card companies. Despite reporting to FCC and NDNC they do not budge. Looks like sitting across the border, they are literally perpetrating viral wire/wire-free terrorism into the country. Looks like CBP (Customs and Border Protection) should bring a wireless/wire border also for the country and enrol the same under their realm.
OriginalGriff wrote:
how many of the ones you receive come from within your own country?
Back in India what I have observed is laxity of telephone operators in enforcing disciplinary action on erring telemarketers is a boon for the latter. For example, I had one AGM from BSNL Chennai giving a false message that TRAI amended rules and customer need to find which network operator the call originated from and report the same to that operator themselves. If this is the level of inertia and ethics with network operators, telemarketing folks will find themselves in virtual haven of all sorts.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage You can not step into the same river twice.
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Your government can't do anything about ones from outside!
Within continental US, the torturous telemarketers are those Remit2India and Phone Calling Card companies. Despite reporting to FCC and NDNC they do not budge. Looks like sitting across the border, they are literally perpetrating viral wire/wire-free terrorism into the country. Looks like CBP (Customs and Border Protection) should bring a wireless/wire border also for the country and enrol the same under their realm.
OriginalGriff wrote:
how many of the ones you receive come from within your own country?
Back in India what I have observed is laxity of telephone operators in enforcing disciplinary action on erring telemarketers is a boon for the latter. For example, I had one AGM from BSNL Chennai giving a false message that TRAI amended rules and customer need to find which network operator the call originated from and report the same to that operator themselves. If this is the level of inertia and ethics with network operators, telemarketing folks will find themselves in virtual haven of all sorts.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage You can not step into the same river twice.
So if India has laws to regulate DNC which are not being enforced where is the point in bringing in DNE anyway? :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Well, we have a similar thing to DNC in the UK, but... 1) The worst companies ignore it anyway. 2) It doesn't apply to calls from outside the UK. Hence, I keep a 100dB+ air horn beside the phone... Legal attempts to block spam emails would work just as well: how many of the ones you receive come from within your own country? Your government can't do anything about ones from outside! But...Outlook has rules: and one of mine is that it is free to delete anything which arrives from a Russian (.RU, .SU, or .РФ) domain. This reduced the spam by over 50% immediately.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
"Hence, I keep a 100dB+ air horn beside the phone..." Now there's a fine idea.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.
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"Hence, I keep a 100dB+ air horn beside the phone..." Now there's a fine idea.
"If you don't fail at least 90 percent of the time, you're not aiming high enough." Alan Kay.
They don't call back :-D
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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Well, we have a similar thing to DNC in the UK, but... 1) The worst companies ignore it anyway. 2) It doesn't apply to calls from outside the UK. Hence, I keep a 100dB+ air horn beside the phone... Legal attempts to block spam emails would work just as well: how many of the ones you receive come from within your own country? Your government can't do anything about ones from outside! But...Outlook has rules: and one of mine is that it is free to delete anything which arrives from a Russian (.RU, .SU, or .РФ) domain. This reduced the spam by over 50% immediately.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
100dB+ air horn beside the phone...
I want one of them for email, what a great kickstarter product, you would be thoroughly over subscribed trying to invent one of them.
Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH
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Well, we have a similar thing to DNC in the UK, but... 1) The worst companies ignore it anyway. 2) It doesn't apply to calls from outside the UK. Hence, I keep a 100dB+ air horn beside the phone... Legal attempts to block spam emails would work just as well: how many of the ones you receive come from within your own country? Your government can't do anything about ones from outside! But...Outlook has rules: and one of mine is that it is free to delete anything which arrives from a Russian (.RU, .SU, or .РФ) domain. This reduced the spam by over 50% immediately.
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
OriginalGriff wrote:
Hence, I keep a 100dB+ air horn beside the phone...
Well, given the quality of phone lines, the only thing that does is deafen yourself. On the other hand, whenever my neighbor hangs up, her phone line emits this really piercing shreak noise. Would be great to use that directly on the phone line itself. Marc
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Hence, I keep a 100dB+ air horn beside the phone...
Well, given the quality of phone lines, the only thing that does is deafen yourself. On the other hand, whenever my neighbor hangs up, her phone line emits this really piercing shreak noise. Would be great to use that directly on the phone line itself. Marc
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For some reason till a few months back my landline used to do that. Everytime I hang up the phone for a few seconds it used to fart like that. Thanks to my provider (BSNL, Chennai) they managed to troubleshoot the line issue and fixed the same.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage You can not step into the same river twice.
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We have a DNC (Do Not Call) setup to block unsolicited calls. Similarly why can not law makers bring in something like DNE (Do Not Email). The amount of spam or UCE at times is nerve-racking.
Vasudevan Deepak Kumar Personal Homepage You can not step into the same river twice.
Given that governments *sell* their DNC lists to individual companies that aren't obligated to follow laws in foreign countries, I'd rather have these lists not exist at all. And I wouldn't want my email address to be part of an equivalent email list. Perhaps what we need instead is a spam filter for the phone system, where you get to establish your own rules. Not that it does anything for what you asked for.
