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    So, by and large, they're going to fine Google for not giving fair and even results from searches. Someone should remind them that paid positioning is how Google makes its money. They probably know this - so why? Well - think "Greece" - no not the fries available in the Google cafeteria - but the nation going financially down the tubes. The EU needs to help out Greece by writing off the loans and/or giving them more money. But from where . . . oh, yeah . . . now I get it. Were I Google, I'd make an example of them: stuff it up your collective croissant - and pull all my resources (i.e., jobs) from the EU - and then - if the EU wishes to block Google, well, we know what that says about the EU. As for China? I'd just pull the Elephanting plug on them rather than limit searches per their government's recreation of reality.

    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      So, by and large, they're going to fine Google for not giving fair and even results from searches. Someone should remind them that paid positioning is how Google makes its money. They probably know this - so why? Well - think "Greece" - no not the fries available in the Google cafeteria - but the nation going financially down the tubes. The EU needs to help out Greece by writing off the loans and/or giving them more money. But from where . . . oh, yeah . . . now I get it. Were I Google, I'd make an example of them: stuff it up your collective croissant - and pull all my resources (i.e., jobs) from the EU - and then - if the EU wishes to block Google, well, we know what that says about the EU. As for China? I'd just pull the Elephanting plug on them rather than limit searches per their government's recreation of reality.

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      W∴ Balboos wrote:

      I'd make an example of them:

      I agree that an example needs to be made. The greedy @rsehole yanks who cause the global financial problems that screw up national economies every few years should be lined up against a wall and shot. That way, the next two or three times they do it (probably within the next 15-20 years), enough of them should be culled that they'll be unlikely to be able to do it again.

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        So, by and large, they're going to fine Google for not giving fair and even results from searches. Someone should remind them that paid positioning is how Google makes its money. They probably know this - so why? Well - think "Greece" - no not the fries available in the Google cafeteria - but the nation going financially down the tubes. The EU needs to help out Greece by writing off the loans and/or giving them more money. But from where . . . oh, yeah . . . now I get it. Were I Google, I'd make an example of them: stuff it up your collective croissant - and pull all my resources (i.e., jobs) from the EU - and then - if the EU wishes to block Google, well, we know what that says about the EU. As for China? I'd just pull the Elephanting plug on them rather than limit searches per their government's recreation of reality.

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        Well it's usually the UK that gets tapped whenever the EU needs a few billion, so thanks for helping out this time :laugh: They wouldn't do it for Greece though, that money will be keeping France afloat for a few more weeks more likely.

        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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          W∴ Balboos wrote:

          I'd make an example of them:

          I agree that an example needs to be made. The greedy @rsehole yanks who cause the global financial problems that screw up national economies every few years should be lined up against a wall and shot. That way, the next two or three times they do it (probably within the next 15-20 years), enough of them should be culled that they'll be unlikely to be able to do it again.

          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Predictable reply. When in doubt, blame the Yanks. The EU economies going down the toilet are doing so of their own free will and accord. Even in Europe, someone has to actually do the work to pay all those people who don't wont. Etc. Etc. Etc.

          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            W∴ Balboos wrote:

            I'd make an example of them:

            I agree that an example needs to be made. The greedy @rsehole yanks who cause the global financial problems that screw up national economies every few years should be lined up against a wall and shot. That way, the next two or three times they do it (probably within the next 15-20 years), enough of them should be culled that they'll be unlikely to be able to do it again.

            I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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            Can we add the politicians who are protecting them and the companies they near ruined, with our money?

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              Predictable reply. When in doubt, blame the Yanks. The EU economies going down the toilet are doing so of their own free will and accord. Even in Europe, someone has to actually do the work to pay all those people who don't wont. Etc. Etc. Etc.

              "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

              "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

              "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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              The problem in Greece isn't people not working: it's people who are working not paying any taxes! :laugh:

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              "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                Predictable reply. When in doubt, blame the Yanks. The EU economies going down the toilet are doing so of their own free will and accord. Even in Europe, someone has to actually do the work to pay all those people who don't wont. Etc. Etc. Etc.

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                W∴ Balboos wrote:

                When in doubt, blame the Yanks.

                There is absolutely no doubt whatsoever that Yankee financial institutions have been responsible for just about every major global economic downturn in the last century. So I'm not in doubt. The problems faced by countries like Iceland and Greece are a direct result of Yankee greed.

                I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                  Can we add the politicians who are protecting them and the companies they near ruined, with our money?

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                  Gets my vote. Mind you, anything that would reduce the percentage of bent politicians to below 98% gets my vote.

                  I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                    Predictable reply. When in doubt, blame the Yanks. The EU economies going down the toilet are doing so of their own free will and accord. Even in Europe, someone has to actually do the work to pay all those people who don't wont. Etc. Etc. Etc.

                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                    Not to worry, In germany we are working very hard to save Greece and others. :^)

                    cheers,

                    Super

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                      Not to worry, In germany we are working very hard to save Greece and others. :^)

                      cheers,

                      Super

                      ------------------------------------------ Too much of good is bad,mix some evil in it

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                      W Balboos GHB
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                      Yup - I have some Kodak super-zoom cameras w/Schneider lenses. Someone worked like a fiend to make so sharp over its entire range. However - it would have been nice if you'd bailed out (or bought) Kodak's digital camera manufacturing division. It's since been licensed and they're not doing it proud.

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        Yup - I have some Kodak super-zoom cameras w/Schneider lenses. Someone worked like a fiend to make so sharp over its entire range. However - it would have been nice if you'd bailed out (or bought) Kodak's digital camera manufacturing division. It's since been licensed and they're not doing it proud.

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        Unfortunately, we have no influence on "them". Generally when a business goes down, Union makes sure the employees are protected or offered alternate options. I have no idea what happens next

                        cheers,

                        Super

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                          Gets my vote. Mind you, anything that would reduce the percentage of bent politicians to below 98% gets my vote.

                          I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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                          Mark_Wallace wrote:

                          Mind you, anything that would reduce the percentage of bent politicians to below 98% gets my vote.

                          I strongly recommend lamp-posts and some good Manila hemp.

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                            So, by and large, they're going to fine Google for not giving fair and even results from searches. Someone should remind them that paid positioning is how Google makes its money. They probably know this - so why? Well - think "Greece" - no not the fries available in the Google cafeteria - but the nation going financially down the tubes. The EU needs to help out Greece by writing off the loans and/or giving them more money. But from where . . . oh, yeah . . . now I get it. Were I Google, I'd make an example of them: stuff it up your collective croissant - and pull all my resources (i.e., jobs) from the EU - and then - if the EU wishes to block Google, well, we know what that says about the EU. As for China? I'd just pull the Elephanting plug on them rather than limit searches per their government's recreation of reality.

                            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                            Well, I remember that Google denied for a long time that their ranking could be influenced from the outside (by money or anything else). It was only the "procedures" assessing the quality of the target site that decided the ranking. So if Google now makes its money (mostly) by paid ranking, just add a big banner along the lines of "Our search result rankings are influenced by how much the target sites pay us." and be done with it. Then every user (in the EU or elsewhere) can decide for him/herself if this is acceptable to him/her and switch to another search engine if not.

                            The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.

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                              Well, I remember that Google denied for a long time that their ranking could be influenced from the outside (by money or anything else). It was only the "procedures" assessing the quality of the target site that decided the ranking. So if Google now makes its money (mostly) by paid ranking, just add a big banner along the lines of "Our search result rankings are influenced by how much the target sites pay us." and be done with it. Then every user (in the EU or elsewhere) can decide for him/herself if this is acceptable to him/her and switch to another search engine if not.

                              The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.

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                              Freak30 wrote:

                              switch to another search engine

                              ..which also needs to have a..

                              Freak30 wrote:

                              big banner along the lines of "Our search result rankings are influenced by how much the target sites pay us."

                              The rule(s) should be applied across the board, not just to the wealthiest (or easiest to punish).

                              How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                Well, I remember that Google denied for a long time that their ranking could be influenced from the outside (by money or anything else). It was only the "procedures" assessing the quality of the target site that decided the ranking. So if Google now makes its money (mostly) by paid ranking, just add a big banner along the lines of "Our search result rankings are influenced by how much the target sites pay us." and be done with it. Then every user (in the EU or elsewhere) can decide for him/herself if this is acceptable to him/her and switch to another search engine if not.

                                The good thing about pessimism is, that you are always either right or pleasently surprised.

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                                Unless your Google display results are vastly different than mine, the top returned values always have a small yellow box [AD] on the second line (in front of the url). The item to the right say "Sponsored" right across the top. Finally, however, even without these, Google's business model is no secret. If they get paid per click-through then they'll damn well do their best to put those links in view. Does a bar have to warn you that the free salty food is to make you thirsty so you drink more?

                                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Freak30 wrote:

                                  switch to another search engine

                                  ..which also needs to have a..

                                  Freak30 wrote:

                                  big banner along the lines of "Our search result rankings are influenced by how much the target sites pay us."

                                  The rule(s) should be applied across the board, not just to the wealthiest (or easiest to punish).

                                  How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                  W Balboos GHB
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                                  The only thing you missed is that the basic premise is to make sure massive fines are levied against non-EU based corporations.

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    The only thing you missed is that the basic premise is to make sure massive fines are levied against non-EU based corporations.

                                    "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                    "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                    "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                    They wouldn't dare take on Baidu or Yandex though because they're looking for: a) No repercussions, and b) High net worth Nothing at all to do with consumers or fair trade, just about getting hands on easy cash.

                                    How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                      The only thing you missed is that the basic premise is to make sure massive fines are levied against non-EU based corporations.

                                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                      They are only flowing the US practice of one law for locals and one for those foreign bods

                                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                        Unless your Google display results are vastly different than mine, the top returned values always have a small yellow box [AD] on the second line (in front of the url). The item to the right say "Sponsored" right across the top. Finally, however, even without these, Google's business model is no secret. If they get paid per click-through then they'll damn well do their best to put those links in view. Does a bar have to warn you that the free salty food is to make you thirsty so you drink more?

                                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                                        Does a bar have to warn you that the free salty food is to make you thirsty so you drink more?

                                        Shhh.. you'll give them more great ideas. Personally I'd love us to leave the EU, but I don't think our version of democracy will allow it.

                                        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                          They are only flowing the US practice of one law for locals and one for those foreign bods

                                          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                          Sure Thing! Like Apple suing Samsung . . . and losing. Ooops. We'll need another example. BP destroying our coastline and paying spit-change in fines. Ooops, again. Well - I'll think of something.

                                          "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                          "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                          "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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