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Can you believe these guys at Arduino?

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    Open Source? http://makezine.com/2015/03/19/massimo-banzi-fighting-for-arduino/[^]

    Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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      Open Source? http://makezine.com/2015/03/19/massimo-banzi-fighting-for-arduino/[^]

      Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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      Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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      Money, money, money...

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        Open Source? http://makezine.com/2015/03/19/massimo-banzi-fighting-for-arduino/[^]

        Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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        This kind of arrogant assumption of ownership, and claims of being the only creative force behind something, only happens in workplaces where there are pig-ignorant people who think only of themselves, and never of their colleagues or the company. i.e. everywhere.

        I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!

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          Open Source? http://makezine.com/2015/03/19/massimo-banzi-fighting-for-arduino/[^]

          Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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          The only winners are the lawyers! As some of the commenters stated knockoffs coming out of china are way cheaper than the original and chips can be bought to make your own boards so let em fight they are only hurting themselves.

          New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site. When you are dead you don't know it, it's only difficult for others. It's the same when you're stupid.

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            Open Source? http://makezine.com/2015/03/19/massimo-banzi-fighting-for-arduino/[^]

            Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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            pwasser wrote:

            Open Source?

            Arduino is open-source hardware: the Arduino hardware reference designs are distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 2.5 license and are available on the Arduino Web site. Layout and production files for some versions of the Arduino hardware are also available. The source code for the IDE is available and released under the GNU General Public License, version 2. [^] So yes, Open Source. In the article you linked Massimo does refer to "royalties", but I guess those refer to the Arduino brand. That means you are free to assemble and even sell your own boards based on the published designs, so long you don't call them "Arduino" – if you want to, then license the brand. If we are to believe Massimo's account, Gianluca cheated to get exclusive control of the brand in Italy, and is now trying to assert his company as the "true" steward of the platform. Those are legal and political issues, but they don't change the terms of whatever work has been already published.

            "Whereas smaller computer languages have features designed into them, C++ is unusual in having a whole swathe of functionality discovered, like a tract of 19th century Africa." -- Verity Stob http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/05/cplusplus\_cli/

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              pwasser wrote:

              Open Source?

              Arduino is open-source hardware: the Arduino hardware reference designs are distributed under a Creative Commons Attribution Share-Alike 2.5 license and are available on the Arduino Web site. Layout and production files for some versions of the Arduino hardware are also available. The source code for the IDE is available and released under the GNU General Public License, version 2. [^] So yes, Open Source. In the article you linked Massimo does refer to "royalties", but I guess those refer to the Arduino brand. That means you are free to assemble and even sell your own boards based on the published designs, so long you don't call them "Arduino" – if you want to, then license the brand. If we are to believe Massimo's account, Gianluca cheated to get exclusive control of the brand in Italy, and is now trying to assert his company as the "true" steward of the platform. Those are legal and political issues, but they don't change the terms of whatever work has been already published.

              "Whereas smaller computer languages have features designed into them, C++ is unusual in having a whole swathe of functionality discovered, like a tract of 19th century Africa." -- Verity Stob http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/05/05/cplusplus\_cli/

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              xperroni wrote:

              but they don't change the terms of whatever work has been already published

              Correct. However those waiting for the Tre and other new products may be affected by this. For new users the 2 websites which look very alike are sure to cause heaps of confusion. All this will surely adversely impinge on this otherwise great endeavour.

              Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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