You Want Aluminum Foil? What's your hat size?
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So yesterday the news (I forgot which) reported how both iPhones and Android phones were busily tracking and recording your locations, storing them on your phone. Disabling this feature (should you find out about it) is buried several layers deep, particularly so for the iPhone. I'm a privacy nut but it doesn't bother me. I don't have an iPhone (or iAnything). I don't have an Android device. If it weren't immodest of me, I'd chastise everyone I know with hearty I-Told-You-So. They'd respond that it doesn't bother them and then, when I'm safely out of sight, fret about it. So - my advice to you - one and all. Protect yourself with the blessed insight of none other than Michael Faraday: wrap your phone in aluminum foil and never be tracked (or otherwise disturbed) again. Which emoticon is symbolizes gloating?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
I wonder why the media is making a big deal of this now. When I bought my Android phone 2+ years ago, the first thing I did was set my privacy options. /ravi
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I wonder why the media is making a big deal of this now. When I bought my Android phone 2+ years ago, the first thing I did was set my privacy options. /ravi
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Well - most people don't have the wit to even know there are privacy options, followed by too lazy to make the effort to do anything with them. In apples case, as they demo'd on the TV report, it's about six layers down from the main screen - and remember that each layer has options. It's something like an opt-out vs. opt-in button when people install software - hence the preponderance of malware. In the US, credit cards, banks, etc. have privacy policies that they must disclose annually and give the consumer the option to opt out of some and, at the least, make them aware of the rest. In the state of California, most of this type of stuff is (by law) opt-out default. Not so much for apple/google.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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So yesterday the news (I forgot which) reported how both iPhones and Android phones were busily tracking and recording your locations, storing them on your phone. Disabling this feature (should you find out about it) is buried several layers deep, particularly so for the iPhone. I'm a privacy nut but it doesn't bother me. I don't have an iPhone (or iAnything). I don't have an Android device. If it weren't immodest of me, I'd chastise everyone I know with hearty I-Told-You-So. They'd respond that it doesn't bother them and then, when I'm safely out of sight, fret about it. So - my advice to you - one and all. Protect yourself with the blessed insight of none other than Michael Faraday: wrap your phone in aluminum foil and never be tracked (or otherwise disturbed) again. Which emoticon is symbolizes gloating?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Why do you care if anyone tracks your location??? So what?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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So yesterday the news (I forgot which) reported how both iPhones and Android phones were busily tracking and recording your locations, storing them on your phone. Disabling this feature (should you find out about it) is buried several layers deep, particularly so for the iPhone. I'm a privacy nut but it doesn't bother me. I don't have an iPhone (or iAnything). I don't have an Android device. If it weren't immodest of me, I'd chastise everyone I know with hearty I-Told-You-So. They'd respond that it doesn't bother them and then, when I'm safely out of sight, fret about it. So - my advice to you - one and all. Protect yourself with the blessed insight of none other than Michael Faraday: wrap your phone in aluminum foil and never be tracked (or otherwise disturbed) again. Which emoticon is symbolizes gloating?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Windows phone, with Wifi, bluetooth and GPS turned off. Never added the number to an email as authentication. Never received email on the device. One cannot be paranoid enough.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
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Why do you care if anyone tracks your location??? So what?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
Coder (Hired) wrote:
Why do you care if anyone tracks your location???
..very much lots. It is a limitation in movement, in safety and liberty, since it would also contain the daily patterns of politicians and other interesting people. During wartime that information becomes even more valuable, and companies have been shown to gladly share with all sides.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
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Coder (Hired) wrote:
Why do you care if anyone tracks your location???
..very much lots. It is a limitation in movement, in safety and liberty, since it would also contain the daily patterns of politicians and other interesting people. During wartime that information becomes even more valuable, and companies have been shown to gladly share with all sides.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
It is a limitation in movement
Please, do tell..how exactly does your phone prevent you from moving?
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
safety
How is it unsafe?
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
liberty
What rights did you lose?
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
since it would also contain the daily patterns of politicians and other interesting people
... none of which effect you whatsoever.
Eddy Vluggen wrote:
During wartime that information becomes even more valuable,
How exactly does this effect you? We're at war now... how are you effected?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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Coder (Hired) wrote:
Why do you care if anyone tracks your location???
..very much lots. It is a limitation in movement, in safety and liberty, since it would also contain the daily patterns of politicians and other interesting people. During wartime that information becomes even more valuable, and companies have been shown to gladly share with all sides.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
Nothing you posted here makes any sense, nor has any remote chance of effecting your daily life.. 1) Movement.. You can move around just fine - with or without your phone on you. 2) Safety.. not sure how safety comes in here. What's unsafe about location tracking? 3) Liberty.. what rights would you lose with this feature on? 4) "politicians and other interesting people" - wait, what? huh? 5) Wartime - there's a war on now.. How has your phone's location services had any effect on it, or been affected by it? 6) Sharing - Again, so what.. This has been going on for years with all kinds of advertising. I really don't get the "phone => location" hysteria. The only reason I turned by off is because it means apps are running -and my battery dies faster. Personnaly I don't care about any of the things you point out. All are non-issues, and some are way out there whacko.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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So yesterday the news (I forgot which) reported how both iPhones and Android phones were busily tracking and recording your locations, storing them on your phone. Disabling this feature (should you find out about it) is buried several layers deep, particularly so for the iPhone. I'm a privacy nut but it doesn't bother me. I don't have an iPhone (or iAnything). I don't have an Android device. If it weren't immodest of me, I'd chastise everyone I know with hearty I-Told-You-So. They'd respond that it doesn't bother them and then, when I'm safely out of sight, fret about it. So - my advice to you - one and all. Protect yourself with the blessed insight of none other than Michael Faraday: wrap your phone in aluminum foil and never be tracked (or otherwise disturbed) again. Which emoticon is symbolizes gloating?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
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Nothing you posted here makes any sense, nor has any remote chance of effecting your daily life.. 1) Movement.. You can move around just fine - with or without your phone on you. 2) Safety.. not sure how safety comes in here. What's unsafe about location tracking? 3) Liberty.. what rights would you lose with this feature on? 4) "politicians and other interesting people" - wait, what? huh? 5) Wartime - there's a war on now.. How has your phone's location services had any effect on it, or been affected by it? 6) Sharing - Again, so what.. This has been going on for years with all kinds of advertising. I really don't get the "phone => location" hysteria. The only reason I turned by off is because it means apps are running -and my battery dies faster. Personnaly I don't care about any of the things you point out. All are non-issues, and some are way out there whacko.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
Coder (Hired) wrote:
How is it unsafe?
I assumed the previous already explained the danger of sharing sensitive information :)
Coder (Hired) wrote:
What rights did you lose?
Freedom is not just about rights.
Coder (Hired) wrote:
... none of which effect you whatsoever.
It cannot otherwise than affect me, as it would be rather global, not local.
Coder (Hired) wrote:
How exactly does this effect you? We're at war now... how are you effected?
I'm Dutch, and not in any war AFAIK. In the case your "we" is American, I will have to refuse to answer.
Coder (Hired) wrote:
All are non-issues, and some are way out there whacko.
Thanks. I would not trust any government with all that information, so no chance I'd trust a company with it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
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Coder (Hired) wrote:
How is it unsafe?
I assumed the previous already explained the danger of sharing sensitive information :)
Coder (Hired) wrote:
What rights did you lose?
Freedom is not just about rights.
Coder (Hired) wrote:
... none of which effect you whatsoever.
It cannot otherwise than affect me, as it would be rather global, not local.
Coder (Hired) wrote:
How exactly does this effect you? We're at war now... how are you effected?
I'm Dutch, and not in any war AFAIK. In the case your "we" is American, I will have to refuse to answer.
Coder (Hired) wrote:
All are non-issues, and some are way out there whacko.
Thanks. I would not trust any government with all that information, so no chance I'd trust a company with it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
Again, you've replied with nothing to substantiate any real danger of phone location tracking.
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
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So yesterday the news (I forgot which) reported how both iPhones and Android phones were busily tracking and recording your locations, storing them on your phone. Disabling this feature (should you find out about it) is buried several layers deep, particularly so for the iPhone. I'm a privacy nut but it doesn't bother me. I don't have an iPhone (or iAnything). I don't have an Android device. If it weren't immodest of me, I'd chastise everyone I know with hearty I-Told-You-So. They'd respond that it doesn't bother them and then, when I'm safely out of sight, fret about it. So - my advice to you - one and all. Protect yourself with the blessed insight of none other than Michael Faraday: wrap your phone in aluminum foil and never be tracked (or otherwise disturbed) again. Which emoticon is symbolizes gloating?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
Wore an iPatch once, close as I got!
New version: WinHeist Version 2.1.1 new web site. I know the voices in my head are not real but damn they come up with some good ideas!
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So yesterday the news (I forgot which) reported how both iPhones and Android phones were busily tracking and recording your locations, storing them on your phone. Disabling this feature (should you find out about it) is buried several layers deep, particularly so for the iPhone. I'm a privacy nut but it doesn't bother me. I don't have an iPhone (or iAnything). I don't have an Android device. If it weren't immodest of me, I'd chastise everyone I know with hearty I-Told-You-So. They'd respond that it doesn't bother them and then, when I'm safely out of sight, fret about it. So - my advice to you - one and all. Protect yourself with the blessed insight of none other than Michael Faraday: wrap your phone in aluminum foil and never be tracked (or otherwise disturbed) again. Which emoticon is symbolizes gloating?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
W∴ Balboos wrote:
I'd chastise everyone I know with hearty I-Told-You-So iToldYouSo. They'd respond that it doesn't bother them and then, when I'm safely out of sight, fret about it.
FTFY :-D
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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I don't really care if the FBI tracks me by my cell phone. I really don't. When I become an international bad boy, then maaaybe, I might care.
Slacker007 wrote:
I don't really care if the FBI tracks me by my cell phone. I really don't.
iToldYouSo :~
Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs
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So yesterday the news (I forgot which) reported how both iPhones and Android phones were busily tracking and recording your locations, storing them on your phone. Disabling this feature (should you find out about it) is buried several layers deep, particularly so for the iPhone. I'm a privacy nut but it doesn't bother me. I don't have an iPhone (or iAnything). I don't have an Android device. If it weren't immodest of me, I'd chastise everyone I know with hearty I-Told-You-So. They'd respond that it doesn't bother them and then, when I'm safely out of sight, fret about it. So - my advice to you - one and all. Protect yourself with the blessed insight of none other than Michael Faraday: wrap your phone in aluminum foil and never be tracked (or otherwise disturbed) again. Which emoticon is symbolizes gloating?
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
So Apple and Google are also part of the conspiracy to make us buy more tin (aluminum) foil. This is bigger than I thought! ;)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
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Coder (Hired) wrote:
How is it unsafe?
I assumed the previous already explained the danger of sharing sensitive information :)
Coder (Hired) wrote:
What rights did you lose?
Freedom is not just about rights.
Coder (Hired) wrote:
... none of which effect you whatsoever.
It cannot otherwise than affect me, as it would be rather global, not local.
Coder (Hired) wrote:
How exactly does this effect you? We're at war now... how are you effected?
I'm Dutch, and not in any war AFAIK. In the case your "we" is American, I will have to refuse to answer.
Coder (Hired) wrote:
All are non-issues, and some are way out there whacko.
Thanks. I would not trust any government with all that information, so no chance I'd trust a company with it.
Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)
Hey Eddy, ever get get the feeling you're talking to narks? :laugh:
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Hey Eddy, ever get get the feeling you're talking to narks? :laugh:
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I don't really care if the FBI tracks me by my cell phone. I really don't. When I become an international bad boy, then maaaybe, I might care.
I find it useful that my phone knows where I am and where I go. It allows it to tell me of any upcoming traffic problems and it always knows how to get me home if I don't. It can even tell me of interesting things or places nearby when I am away from home. For someone as essentially lazy as me I find this very useful. I also fail to see that this has, or could have, any negative impact on me at all. It might get more adds that are targeted to me, big deal, I have been happily ignoring the ones that aren't for years now. If I do decide to take up a life of crime and take a smart phone along with me then I don't think it is them being evil that would get me caught, but me being a dickhead. So Google, please remember where I am, because sometimes I can't.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
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So Apple and Google are also part of the conspiracy to make us buy more tin (aluminum) foil. This is bigger than I thought! ;)
If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill
:laugh: I laughed so hard at this one. :thumbsup:
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I find it useful that my phone knows where I am and where I go. It allows it to tell me of any upcoming traffic problems and it always knows how to get me home if I don't. It can even tell me of interesting things or places nearby when I am away from home. For someone as essentially lazy as me I find this very useful. I also fail to see that this has, or could have, any negative impact on me at all. It might get more adds that are targeted to me, big deal, I have been happily ignoring the ones that aren't for years now. If I do decide to take up a life of crime and take a smart phone along with me then I don't think it is them being evil that would get me caught, but me being a dickhead. So Google, please remember where I am, because sometimes I can't.
Some men are born mediocre, some men achieve mediocrity, and some men have mediocrity thrust upon them.
Well said.
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Why do you care if anyone tracks your location??? So what?
If it's not broken, fix it until it is
I can tell you don't care. Member since Sat 2 Oct 2004 (10 years, 6 months) No Bio. No Picture. No . . . anything. What's the big secret(s)? Obviously, privacy doesn't matter to you. With over ten years to do some revelations, I don't think you try the 'too busy' version of why not. So - we await your photo, bio, family details, phone numbers, etc.
"The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein
"As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert
"If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010
