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  • R Rage

    Microsoft essentials/defender/whatever the name it has today, and lots of care.

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    Yeah, if you want to invite all viruses, spyware and malware out there to have their party in your computer. I thought people know by now that the essentials/defender is kind of scam. They can't detect even the most obvious malicious code even if you show it to them. The only place where this crap can detect/clean virus is in the published "research" of some "sponsored" computer labs, published in some "independent" computer magazines. X|

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      Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey

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        Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey

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        Most AV's are more pain than gain. DEP + hostfile works for me :)

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          Yeah, if you want to invite all viruses, spyware and malware out there to have their party in your computer. I thought people know by now that the essentials/defender is kind of scam. They can't detect even the most obvious malicious code even if you show it to them. The only place where this crap can detect/clean virus is in the published "research" of some "sponsored" computer labs, published in some "independent" computer magazines. X|

          There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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          I have been using it for two years now, and it did its job so far. (Here I set the timer for the answer that I know will come) McAfee, as well as Avira, as well as AVG, in whatever flavor you may install them, are increasing your PC start-up time by 10,000% and are implemented as a pile of crap services that literally suck out your CPU. Never ever. And you may notice I did not even dare to mention Norton, the Mother of all viruses.

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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          • M Michael Varey

            Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey

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            Single Step Debugger
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            Avast has a free version, and regarding my experience it works. It is not able to clean all threats but defiantly will detect if you're infected, so you can make the only reasonable virus cleanup: format->reinstall. Other decent option is Kaspersky. And Kaspersrky has a perfect free rescue disk, that you can boot from and clean your PC for good.

            There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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            • R Rage

              I have been using it for two years now, and it did its job so far. (Here I set the timer for the answer that I know will come) McAfee, as well as Avira, as well as AVG, in whatever flavor you may install them, are increasing your PC start-up time by 10,000% and are implemented as a pile of crap services that literally suck out your CPU. Never ever. And you may notice I did not even dare to mention Norton, the Mother of all viruses.

              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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              Rage wrote:

              I have been using it for two years now, and it did its job so far.

              This is because you use a common cense when browsing. It was same with me, until my teenage daughter got a laptop and access to my computers and I got close encounters with all viruses on the net. :sigh:

              There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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              • M Michael Varey

                Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey

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                We've been happy users of Eset Nod 32 for many years in our company.

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                  Rage wrote:

                  I have been using it for two years now, and it did its job so far.

                  This is because you use a common cense when browsing. It was same with me, until my teenage daughter got a laptop and access to my computers and I got close encounters with all viruses on the net. :sigh:

                  There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                  Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                  you use a common cense when browsing

                  Indeed, read my post, I wrote "lots of care", this was only partly ironical. I taught that lesson to my MIL once by formatting her computer after she got it infected by a "you won the lottery - click on that attached executable" email. [quote] "Sorry, this is the only solution. I told you to be careful." [/quote] I told her only two weeks later that she did not lose all her pictures (I backed them up) *evil grin*

                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                    Rage wrote:

                    I have been using it for two years now, and it did its job so far.

                    This is because you use a common cense when browsing. It was same with me, until my teenage daughter got a laptop and access to my computers and I got close encounters with all viruses on the net. :sigh:

                    There is only one Vera Farmiga and Salma Hayek is her prophet! Advertise here – minimum three posts per day are guaranteed.

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                    Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                    until my teenage daughter got a laptop and access to my computers and I got close encounters with all viruses on the net

                    For that use case : Try a virtual machine to run the browser.

                    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                    • R Rage

                      Microsoft essentials/defender/whatever the name it has today, and lots of care.

                      Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                      Yes, especially if your have Windows 8. Microsoft rolled out a new version of Defender that is more potent than MS Security Essentials or Defender for earlier version of Windows. Note: In my experience Defender works well for the latest viruses, but not too well for old viruses. I suspect MS focuses on malware that are more likely to occur - ie later creations. This may cause Defender to score low on tests, that evaluate it against viruses of all ages. However, this is just my personal impression. The nice part: Defender (for Windows 8) and Security Essentials (For Win 7), are both free!

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                      • M Michael Varey

                        Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey

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                        Jeremy Falcon
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                        Michael Varey wrote:

                        What are your choices for a better solution?

                        Stop surfing porn at work.

                        Jeremy Falcon

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                        • L Lost User

                          Yes, especially if your have Windows 8. Microsoft rolled out a new version of Defender that is more potent than MS Security Essentials or Defender for earlier version of Windows. Note: In my experience Defender works well for the latest viruses, but not too well for old viruses. I suspect MS focuses on malware that are more likely to occur - ie later creations. This may cause Defender to score low on tests, that evaluate it against viruses of all ages. However, this is just my personal impression. The nice part: Defender (for Windows 8) and Security Essentials (For Win 7), are both free!

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                          Good point, Windows 8.1 here. I have actually never run it on 7.

                          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                            Most AV's are more pain than gain. DEP + hostfile works for me :)

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                            Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey

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                              Ravi Bhavnani
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                              Michael Varey wrote:

                              What are your choices for a better solution?

                              1. Microsoft Security Essentials.
                              2. A custom hosts file.

                              /ravi

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                              • R Rage

                                Deyan Georgiev wrote:

                                until my teenage daughter got a laptop and access to my computers and I got close encounters with all viruses on the net

                                For that use case : Try a virtual machine to run the browser.

                                Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                If someone else who you know isn't careful is on your computer - virtual machine is the way to go for anything they need. That is non-negotiable with my computer.

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                                  Good point, Windows 8.1 here. I have actually never run it on 7.

                                  Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                  I dumped Symantec years ago, when Security essentials caught a virus embedded in an email, that Symantec failed to discover. I have never regretted this decision.

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                                    I dumped Symantec years ago, when Security essentials caught a virus embedded in an email, that Symantec failed to discover. I have never regretted this decision.

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                                    Ironically, their best software was their own uninstaller : it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer, and was very effective. (It was supposed to be run before upgrading or installing a new symantec program, but if you ignored that last step :-D )

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                                      Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey

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                                      Joan M
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                                      I've been using Bitdefender free[^] and: 1. Is extremely lightweight. 2. Doesn't need even to look at it and it is not showing adverts, hints... It's like it is not there. 3. It works well. I've installed it in some family computers that had MSE installed and it has found all kind of things running there... 4. It doesn't allow to configure anything. If you need to avoid scanning a specific location or set exceptions it is not your choice. In order to do that you should go for the payment version. I've used AVAST and even it looked good it took a lot of resources. I've been tempted to use AVG in computers with MSE and that need to apply some exceptions, never done that though.

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                                        Ironically, their best software was their own uninstaller : it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer, and was very effective. (It was supposed to be run before upgrading or installing a new symantec program, but if you ignored that last step :-D )

                                        Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                                        Rage wrote:

                                        it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer

                                        Definitely not the uninstaller I used, it left a mess, admittedly this was 5-6 years ago. I had to manually uninstall the damn thing :mad: ohh what fun! The only good thing is, they had instructions for manually uninstalling it. The fact that they have those instructions available is scary.

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                                          Rage wrote:

                                          it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer

                                          Definitely not the uninstaller I used, it left a mess, admittedly this was 5-6 years ago. I had to manually uninstall the damn thing :mad: ohh what fun! The only good thing is, they had instructions for manually uninstalling it. The fact that they have those instructions available is scary.

                                          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                                          I wonder whether these companies realize how many customers they lose, by rushing half-completed apps to market, that p*ss off their customers and thus lose future revenues? Mr. Manager: Is it really worth sacrificing your company's long term future for the sake of your next quarterly bonus?

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