McAfee Virus
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
I've been using Bitdefender free[^] and: 1. Is extremely lightweight. 2. Doesn't need even to look at it and it is not showing adverts, hints... It's like it is not there. 3. It works well. I've installed it in some family computers that had MSE installed and it has found all kind of things running there... 4. It doesn't allow to configure anything. If you need to avoid scanning a specific location or set exceptions it is not your choice. In order to do that you should go for the payment version. I've used AVAST and even it looked good it took a lot of resources. I've been tempted to use AVG in computers with MSE and that need to apply some exceptions, never done that though.
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Ironically, their best software was their own uninstaller : it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer, and was very effective. (It was supposed to be run before upgrading or installing a new symantec program, but if you ignored that last step :-D )
Rage wrote:
it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer
Definitely not the uninstaller I used, it left a mess, admittedly this was 5-6 years ago. I had to manually uninstall the damn thing :mad: ohh what fun! The only good thing is, they had instructions for manually uninstalling it. The fact that they have those instructions available is scary.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Rage wrote:
it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer
Definitely not the uninstaller I used, it left a mess, admittedly this was 5-6 years ago. I had to manually uninstall the damn thing :mad: ohh what fun! The only good thing is, they had instructions for manually uninstalling it. The fact that they have those instructions available is scary.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
I wonder whether these companies realize how many customers they lose, by rushing half-completed apps to market, that p*ss off their customers and thus lose future revenues? Mr. Manager: Is it really worth sacrificing your company's long term future for the sake of your next quarterly bonus?
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
Michael Varey wrote:
What are your choices for a better solution?
- Microsoft Security Essentials - custom HOSTS file - Kaspersky free edition when it's too late, uninstall after use
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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I wonder whether these companies realize how many customers they lose, by rushing half-completed apps to market, that p*ss off their customers and thus lose future revenues? Mr. Manager: Is it really worth sacrificing your company's long term future for the sake of your next quarterly bonus?
They've certainly lost my business, and indirectly lost more due to me telling people about my experiences with them.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Michael Varey wrote:
What are your choices for a better solution?
Stop surfing porn at work.
Jeremy Falcon
Jeremy Falcon wrote:
Stop surfing porn at work.
He's actually looking for a workable solutions. Not fairy tales like this.
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They've certainly lost my business, and indirectly lost more due to me telling people about my experiences with them.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
On my non-work computer I use MSE and malwarebytes(the free version) and these work great. At work we use Sophos and likewise it works a treat.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
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Yes! If you lose one customer the future cost to your company is unknown and unknowable! But since so many companies are run by accountant types, who cannot wrap their heads around the long term unknowable, focus tends to be on short term profits!
Cornelius Henning wrote:
short term profits
ding! ding! ding! we have a winner. This kind of makes me think of my old man. He never once had to advertise his services in 55 years, it was all word of mouth. He had more work than he knew what to do with, why? he was honest with people, did good great work at a reasonable rate. People would put their projects off for year until he could do the job, it was crazy. I have to call my old man. :)
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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On my non-work computer I use MSE and malwarebytes(the free version) and these work great. At work we use Sophos and likewise it works a treat.
“That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”
― Christopher Hitchens
GuyThiebaut wrote:
MSE and malwarebytes
Seconded, never had an issue with this setup.
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Cornelius Henning wrote:
short term profits
ding! ding! ding! we have a winner. This kind of makes me think of my old man. He never once had to advertise his services in 55 years, it was all word of mouth. He had more work than he knew what to do with, why? he was honest with people, did good great work at a reasonable rate. People would put their projects off for year until he could do the job, it was crazy. I have to call my old man. :)
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Will do. :thumbsup:
"the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle
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Michael Varey wrote:
What are your choices for a better solution?
- Microsoft Security Essentials - custom HOSTS file - Kaspersky free edition when it's too late, uninstall after use
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
Your third point quite clearly implies that the first two aren't any good.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Your third point quite clearly implies that the first two aren't any good.
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
Hehe, I agree, you could interprete it like that. But actually I never had to resort to the third point on my own PC, only when being called to clean some friends PC.
If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
Michael Varey wrote:
What are your choices for a better solution?
We use Trend Micro OfficeScan. Don't know if it's "better" or not, but I have yet to have any issues with it.
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
The same happened with Norton Antivirus. These w@nkers have a tendency to think that what they're doing on your computer is more important that what you do with your computer, and therefore deserves more of your computer's attention -- and God forbid that you should do anything that might take up resources that they want to own! It's 90% BS, anyway. "Black hats" don't make money from hacking computers with viruses, because it's much too much work. If you don't want your bank account emptied, just don't open unwanted e-mails, and don't type any personal information into web-sites unless you are absolutely certain it's safe to do so (i.e. pretty much never). I haven't even given any real personal information to CP. Paranoia? Nah. Just basic common sense for Internet usage. There are millions upon millions of @rseholes strangers on the Interwebs; what they don't know can't hurt you. That just leaves the black hats who get kicks out of screwing with other people's stuff. **** 'em, say I. They can't break anything that I can't fix -- and fixing it would even be more fun than my usual routine, so they'd be doing me a favour.
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
Yes, I've had numerous idiotic faults due to McAfee. To the point where I exterminate any mention of it anywhere on any of my devices. This popped up due to my personal "spam, virus, spoof, etc." filters - warning me there's some possible attack attempt. :wtf: Unfortunately though, McAfee isn't the only one of these things. I've had similar experiences with AVG, Avast, Komodo, etc. and worst was (and still is) Symantic's AVs (even since the old Norton). I've come to the opinion that ALL AVs are in fact VIRUSES themselves. My advice is to try your damnedest to avoid the need to have them. Whatever it takes, e.g. using a Linux machine as your internet connection PC and only a Windows VM for testing purposes is orders of magnitude more secure than trying any AV into a "work" environment.
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
Linux.
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Yeah, if you want to invite all viruses, spyware and malware out there to have their party in your computer. I thought people know by now that the essentials/defender is kind of scam. They can't detect even the most obvious malicious code even if you show it to them. The only place where this crap can detect/clean virus is in the published "research" of some "sponsored" computer labs, published in some "independent" computer magazines. X|
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I've been recommending Microsoft's Defender/Security essentials for years. My family and I (teenage daughters) have been using it without problems for as long. Microsoft's suite performs well in all reviews/evaluations I've read. I'd like to know how it is 'kind of a scam'.