McAfee Virus
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Yeah, if you want to invite all viruses, spyware and malware out there to have their party in your computer. I thought people know by now that the essentials/defender is kind of scam. They can't detect even the most obvious malicious code even if you show it to them. The only place where this crap can detect/clean virus is in the published "research" of some "sponsored" computer labs, published in some "independent" computer magazines. X|
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I've been recommending Microsoft's Defender/Security essentials for years. My family and I (teenage daughters) have been using it without problems for as long. Microsoft's suite performs well in all reviews/evaluations I've read. I'd like to know how it is 'kind of a scam'.
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
I use BitDefender and it works well, I used to use McAfee but it was no good, and as someone else said Nortons best feature was it's uninstall program. BD works and the wife likes it, it's unobtrusive.
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Yeah, if you want to invite all viruses, spyware and malware out there to have their party in your computer. I thought people know by now that the essentials/defender is kind of scam. They can't detect even the most obvious malicious code even if you show it to them. The only place where this crap can detect/clean virus is in the published "research" of some "sponsored" computer labs, published in some "independent" computer magazines. X|
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I have found that Windows Defender/MSE is far better than McAfee. As for MSE only being able to catch stuff in the lab I'd have to disagree. I use MSE/Defender on a daily basis and used to run it on a network with other AV packages deployed to the rest of the network. MSE would catch stuff that Panda, Vipre, McAfee, and Symantec would all miss. About the only product I have found that outperforms MSE/Defender in the real world is MalwareBytes.
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
This reminds me of the Windows 95 days, must have been 1996 or 97 or so. Win95 was so unstable that I had to reinstall practically every week. It grew to be a routine: Windows (including Format C: ), MacAfee, Word, Visual Basic (5 or 6, don't remember). Symptoms were always the same: visit a web site, close Internet Explorer, and about 5 seconds after it closed you could get an access violation caused by (as the message said) Internet Explorer. That wasn't running anymore. If I didn't *immediately* shut down Windows at that point, the next thing that happened would be a blue screen about 30 seconds later, more often than not accompanied by a corrupt directory structure on C: and the umpteenth reinstall. One day, it happened again and I had NO time to spare, so I skipped MacAfee in the reinstall routine. Three months later, I still hadn't seen any of the above symptoms anymore. The system was as stable as a rock, and even today, MacAfee still has never had another chance to crawl onto one of my disks.
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
A couple of years ago when John McAfee was hiding from the law McAfee corporation, which he founded but is no longer part of, stated they were thinking about changing their name and the product's name because they didn't want to be associated with a "felon". His response - please change it because I don't want my name associated with the crap you're selling now.
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
I switched to ESET many years ago. Most of my clients are now using that. I barely notice it is there. I have ONE complaint (after MANY years). The configuration for scanning local computer, and network computers CANNOT be DIFFERENT. If you exclude a network folder that is not there, it slows the system down. Over the network, over a VPN, it slows things down. (Notice this is very specific). Other than that, I am more than happy with the security and speed, and ability to flag downloads, etc. Kirk Out!
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Rage wrote:
it would remove every single bit of any symantec product on your computer
Definitely not the uninstaller I used, it left a mess, admittedly this was 5-6 years ago. I had to manually uninstall the damn thing :mad: ohh what fun! The only good thing is, they had instructions for manually uninstalling it. The fact that they have those instructions available is scary.
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Same experience a dozen years ago. My sister had Symantec Home preinstalled on her new laptop. When she got to school they required it's overpriced brother Norton Corporate to be installed before she could connect to their Novel powered lan :wtf: . It gleefully half-installed itself over Symantec Home before giving up in a state that prevent it or Symantic's installer from working. With no internet available to look for instructions I spend about 4 hours searching the registry for every key written by the two pieces of malware before I could reinstall the one she needed. X|
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I have been using it for two years now, and it did its job so far. (Here I set the timer for the answer that I know will come) McAfee, as well as Avira, as well as AVG, in whatever flavor you may install them, are increasing your PC start-up time by 10,000% and are implemented as a pile of crap services that literally suck out your CPU. Never ever. And you may notice I did not even dare to mention Norton, the Mother of all viruses.
Nope, not Avira. I noticed maaaaybe a 2 second increase in boot time. (Win10 x64, E6570, 4GB RAM, 120GB SSD as C: ) Edit: Also, if you're looking at a corporate/enterprise AV product, cast an eye towards Sophos. I've had previous experience with them and can (and am :-)recommend them.
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Nope, not Avira. I noticed maaaaybe a 2 second increase in boot time. (Win10 x64, E6570, 4GB RAM, 120GB SSD as C: ) Edit: Also, if you're looking at a corporate/enterprise AV product, cast an eye towards Sophos. I've had previous experience with them and can (and am :-)recommend them.
AndrewJacksonZA wrote:
120GB SSD
Could that speed up a bit the scan at startup ... ?
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I have found that Windows Defender/MSE is far better than McAfee. As for MSE only being able to catch stuff in the lab I'd have to disagree. I use MSE/Defender on a daily basis and used to run it on a network with other AV packages deployed to the rest of the network. MSE would catch stuff that Panda, Vipre, McAfee, and Symantec would all miss. About the only product I have found that outperforms MSE/Defender in the real world is MalwareBytes.
I ran Malwarebytes for a while, and it is good, but I found that Kaspersky is better. Kaspersky removed two rootkits from my son's computer that Windows Defender had let in. I did find that Kaspersky caused my wife to not be able to load docx files from email, until I added an exception in Kaspersky to allow those files to be opened even if they were from another computer.
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Same experience a dozen years ago. My sister had Symantec Home preinstalled on her new laptop. When she got to school they required it's overpriced brother Norton Corporate to be installed before she could connect to their Novel powered lan :wtf: . It gleefully half-installed itself over Symantec Home before giving up in a state that prevent it or Symantic's installer from working. With no internet available to look for instructions I spend about 4 hours searching the registry for every key written by the two pieces of malware before I could reinstall the one she needed. X|
Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt
Dan Neely wrote:
With no internet available to look for instructions I spend about 4 hours
You've got my sympathies, that sounds brutal. Hell it was brutal even with the instructions let alone without!
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
I gave up with McAfee years ago and for the same reasons. I have now been using Sophos for a few years and on the whole it's not been too bad. It found a few things on my old laptop that McAfee had missed. I have now installed it in a number off company's that I do support for and all seem happy. The only thing is that there is a minimum number of licences that you have to get of around 3 or 5 as they only like to sell to corporates and you have to purchase through a partner.
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AndrewJacksonZA wrote:
120GB SSD
Could that speed up a bit the scan at startup ... ?
I don't know. Well, probably because it's an SSD any I/O impact would be minimized. I put the two second increase down to having to load and initialize Avira: my E6750 ran at 100% during boot up before installing Avira and now it has another program to load at startup (it only has two cores.)
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Yes, we have been forced to the conclusion that McAfee might just be the biggest virus out there. Have any of you had issues like we are having, that McAfee causes about 90% of our PC issues (drive corruption, slowness, system hangs, lockouts while it does scans that aren't scheduled, blocking of reboots due to it's endpoint encryption, etc. etc. etc.). We are really, really struggling with this product and wonder if any one else is having the same issues. What are your choices for a better solution? mvarey
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Rage wrote:
I have been using it for two years now, and it did its job so far.
This is because you use a common cense when browsing. It was same with me, until my teenage daughter got a laptop and access to my computers and I got close encounters with all viruses on the net. :sigh:
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no need for common sense (most people lack it while surfing online) ,just don't use the computer as administrator and never give administrator rights to teenage daughter. If admin authentication pop-up appears when surfing websites or opening email, something is fishy.
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I ran Malwarebytes for a while, and it is good, but I found that Kaspersky is better. Kaspersky removed two rootkits from my son's computer that Windows Defender had let in. I did find that Kaspersky caused my wife to not be able to load docx files from email, until I added an exception in Kaspersky to allow those files to be opened even if they were from another computer.
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