Sharing a DSL Connection
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Don't have DSL so this is second (one and a half) hand. Most of the techo staff in our head office in the US all have DSL and swear by Linksys routers, 4 or 8 port. They plug the ethernet cable from the DSL modem into the back of the Linksys and then have 4 or 8 ports to plug into their computers. I covered this pretty extensively with one of them as our Singapore office will need one soon. From memory he also told me that it will act as a DHCP server and also is able to mimic your network cards MAC address if that is required to fool your ISP into thinking you still only have one machine linked up to the service. This is good for services that state that you can only hook one computer to the Internet. Hope that helps. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018
Thanks Michael. I have all my PCs (minus the one connected to the DSL modem) connected to a LinkSys hub. What I don't know is exactly how to configure a shared IP, or DHCP or which proxy server to use. Hopefully, someone who's set this up will be able to recommend something. Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
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Thanks Michael. I have all my PCs (minus the one connected to the DSL modem) connected to a LinkSys hub. What I don't know is exactly how to configure a shared IP, or DHCP or which proxy server to use. Hopefully, someone who's set this up will be able to recommend something. Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
Tom, I have seen these Linksys routers recommended by other Lounge dwellers when similar questions have been raised before. I am pretty sure someone will come up with the exact model number and also pointers on how to set it all up. If, for some reason you get stuck on this send me an e-mail and I will hassle the bloke in Cambridge for all the answers, he still owes me one and I will be happy to cash it in. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018
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Tom, I have seen these Linksys routers recommended by other Lounge dwellers when similar questions have been raised before. I am pretty sure someone will come up with the exact model number and also pointers on how to set it all up. If, for some reason you get stuck on this send me an e-mail and I will hassle the bloke in Cambridge for all the answers, he still owes me one and I will be happy to cash it in. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018
Sorted! Thanks mate. Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
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I've just installed a DSL modem and would like any suggestions anyone has as to what I should install to allow all my PCs on my network to access the Internet through the one nodes connection. I've seen quite a few solutions, but what I'm looking for is first-hand accounts from people who've actually used a given product. Thanks! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
Hello Tom, I have a DSL connection and I use a LinkSys EtherFast Cable/DSL 4 port router model BERSR41. The DSL router can be configured to obtain the IP address from your DSL moden using DHCP or you can manually set it. The DSL router also contains a DHCP server for the PCs that attach to the router. It is very easy to have all your PC share the connection with this setup. The router costs around $100(US) and also provides firewall protection. Kind regards, Tim
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I've just installed a DSL modem and would like any suggestions anyone has as to what I should install to allow all my PCs on my network to access the Internet through the one nodes connection. I've seen quite a few solutions, but what I'm looking for is first-hand accounts from people who've actually used a given product. Thanks! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
Hi Tom, I have used two different solutions to share my DSL line, both of which worked equally well: * The Linksys Cable/DSL router w/ 8 port switch * Internet connection sharing that's built into Win2k The nice thing about using the Linksys is that you don't have to leave a machine on 24/7 just to deal with the Internet connection (but if you leave them all on anyway, this point it moot). As previously mentioned, this will act like a DHCP server for your internal network. It has a web interface that makes it very easy to configure, and it's loaded with features. Cost: ~$150 USD If you're using ICS on Win2k, you'll need to obtain a second network card to make everything work. This worked just as well, but I moved away from this because leaving my server on all the time was causing unnecessary wear on my hard drives. If you have any questions, please ask away. Jon Sagara "Left-handed nunchakus!"
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I've just installed a DSL modem and would like any suggestions anyone has as to what I should install to allow all my PCs on my network to access the Internet through the one nodes connection. I've seen quite a few solutions, but what I'm looking for is first-hand accounts from people who've actually used a given product. Thanks! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
Tom, I was in the same situation, and I choose a product from D-Link (www.dlink.com). They have several products that might interest you: - DI-701, very small residential DSL gateway (Firewall/NAT/IP Sharing/DHCP Server), cheap (US$ 89); - DI-704, same as DI-701, but also includes 4 port hub (US$ 119); But I decided to go for a wireless solution: - DI-713P (US$ 279). Now I simply love it! It combines DSL router, print server, 3-port switch, DHCP, firewall etc. I didn't have UTP cables in all my rooms, and now I can work wherever I can. Then you should add costs of wireless USB adapter or PCMCIA card. Of course, if you don't need wireless connections, this is overkill, apart from that you will always get better and faster connection using cables. But in my situation it was useful. Vagif Abilov COM+/ATL/MFC Developer Oslo, Norway
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I've just installed a DSL modem and would like any suggestions anyone has as to what I should install to allow all my PCs on my network to access the Internet through the one nodes connection. I've seen quite a few solutions, but what I'm looking for is first-hand accounts from people who've actually used a given product. Thanks! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
At my house I'm using a LinkSys CableModem/DSL Router with AccessPoint and 4-port Switch (model BEFW11S4). It cost $299, but it's simply awesome!!! I bought wireless network cards for my laptop as well as my dad's, and we got internet everywhere inside the house (and some places outside too), as well as in both desktop machines. It has all of the features of the other Linksys products metinoned above, such as IP adress faking, firewall and so on! I would really recommend it. -- LuisR -------- Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
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I've just installed a DSL modem and would like any suggestions anyone has as to what I should install to allow all my PCs on my network to access the Internet through the one nodes connection. I've seen quite a few solutions, but what I'm looking for is first-hand accounts from people who've actually used a given product. Thanks! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
Forget to mention in my other reply: visit www.practicallynetworked.com. It's an excellent site and has all sorts of reviews and recommendations. It even lists special offers on the products. Vagif Abilov COM+/ATL/MFC Developer Oslo, Norway
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I've just installed a DSL modem and would like any suggestions anyone has as to what I should install to allow all my PCs on my network to access the Internet through the one nodes connection. I've seen quite a few solutions, but what I'm looking for is first-hand accounts from people who've actually used a given product. Thanks! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
Hi Tom, I've got an old PC in the corner running WinRoute Lite and connected to a Cable Modem. It works well, and I'm more than happy with it. See http://www.tinysoftware.com/winlite.php Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
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I've just installed a DSL modem and would like any suggestions anyone has as to what I should install to allow all my PCs on my network to access the Internet through the one nodes connection. I've seen quite a few solutions, but what I'm looking for is first-hand accounts from people who've actually used a given product. Thanks! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
I've got an ADSL connection, and I use Internet Connection Sharing (comes with win2k) and it works very well. (2b || !2b)
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Hello Tom, I have a DSL connection and I use a LinkSys EtherFast Cable/DSL 4 port router model BERSR41. The DSL router can be configured to obtain the IP address from your DSL moden using DHCP or you can manually set it. The DSL router also contains a DHCP server for the PCs that attach to the router. It is very easy to have all your PC share the connection with this setup. The router costs around $100(US) and also provides firewall protection. Kind regards, Tim
I happen to have a Cisco router. Can that be used? Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
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Hi Tom, I have used two different solutions to share my DSL line, both of which worked equally well: * The Linksys Cable/DSL router w/ 8 port switch * Internet connection sharing that's built into Win2k The nice thing about using the Linksys is that you don't have to leave a machine on 24/7 just to deal with the Internet connection (but if you leave them all on anyway, this point it moot). As previously mentioned, this will act like a DHCP server for your internal network. It has a web interface that makes it very easy to configure, and it's loaded with features. Cost: ~$150 USD If you're using ICS on Win2k, you'll need to obtain a second network card to make everything work. This worked just as well, but I moved away from this because leaving my server on all the time was causing unnecessary wear on my hard drives. If you have any questions, please ask away. Jon Sagara "Left-handed nunchakus!"
The router option seems very popular. Would any router work? (I have a Cisco router) Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
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Tom, I was in the same situation, and I choose a product from D-Link (www.dlink.com). They have several products that might interest you: - DI-701, very small residential DSL gateway (Firewall/NAT/IP Sharing/DHCP Server), cheap (US$ 89); - DI-704, same as DI-701, but also includes 4 port hub (US$ 119); But I decided to go for a wireless solution: - DI-713P (US$ 279). Now I simply love it! It combines DSL router, print server, 3-port switch, DHCP, firewall etc. I didn't have UTP cables in all my rooms, and now I can work wherever I can. Then you should add costs of wireless USB adapter or PCMCIA card. Of course, if you don't need wireless connections, this is overkill, apart from that you will always get better and faster connection using cables. But in my situation it was useful. Vagif Abilov COM+/ATL/MFC Developer Oslo, Norway
Very cool on the wireless angle. Thank Vagif! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
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Forget to mention in my other reply: visit www.practicallynetworked.com. It's an excellent site and has all sorts of reviews and recommendations. It even lists special offers on the products. Vagif Abilov COM+/ATL/MFC Developer Oslo, Norway
I'll definitely check it out. Thanks! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
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At my house I'm using a LinkSys CableModem/DSL Router with AccessPoint and 4-port Switch (model BEFW11S4). It cost $299, but it's simply awesome!!! I bought wireless network cards for my laptop as well as my dad's, and we got internet everywhere inside the house (and some places outside too), as well as in both desktop machines. It has all of the features of the other Linksys products metinoned above, such as IP adress faking, firewall and so on! I would really recommend it. -- LuisR -------- Luis Alonso Ramos Chihuahua, Mexico www.luisalonsoramos.com
Is the firewall on that option a hardware firewall inside the router or software to be installed? Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
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Hi Tom, I've got an old PC in the corner running WinRoute Lite and connected to a Cable Modem. It works well, and I'm more than happy with it. See http://www.tinysoftware.com/winlite.php Neville Franks, Author of ED for Windows. Version 4.01 just released, with a C++ Class View that actually works. www.getsoft.com
I never realized that I'd get this many great responses. Thanks Neville! Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready
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Don't have DSL so this is second (one and a half) hand. Most of the techo staff in our head office in the US all have DSL and swear by Linksys routers, 4 or 8 port. They plug the ethernet cable from the DSL modem into the back of the Linksys and then have 4 or 8 ports to plug into their computers. I covered this pretty extensively with one of them as our Singapore office will need one soon. From memory he also told me that it will act as a DHCP server and also is able to mimic your network cards MAC address if that is required to fool your ISP into thinking you still only have one machine linked up to the service. This is good for services that state that you can only hook one computer to the Internet. Hope that helps. Michael Martin Pegasystems Pty Ltd Australia martm@pegasystems.com +61 413-004-018
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I've got an ADSL connection, and I use Internet Connection Sharing (comes with win2k) and it works very well. (2b || !2b)
Am I correct in assuming that with this option, the server needs to be up all the time (as opposed to the router option)? I tried to get IP sharing to work a very long time ago and had some problems. Is this any easier? Cheers, Tom "Ya got lucky, ya lucky prick" - Keith McCready