Congrats to prolific Sergey
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Posh work on the Q&A. You are now (of in a few minutes) a millionaire :cool: We certainly have enjoyed every kopek - you give top notch answers all around.
-- The trouble with people,
is that they want to hear only what they want to hear.He's technically very capable, but he is rude and arrogant, and has the people skills of a dead tree frog. He has no patience with beginners, and instead of trying to understand what they are talking about just makes rude comments about them not using the right terms then edits the question to add impolite tags like "Noeffort" or "IAmLazy" and downvotes them. For example: what data structure can I used for cards in monopoly[^] If he leaves me one more "My answer is better than yours" comment I may snap and go on a downvoting spree... :laugh:
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He's technically very capable, but he is rude and arrogant, and has the people skills of a dead tree frog. He has no patience with beginners, and instead of trying to understand what they are talking about just makes rude comments about them not using the right terms then edits the question to add impolite tags like "Noeffort" or "IAmLazy" and downvotes them. For example: what data structure can I used for cards in monopoly[^] If he leaves me one more "My answer is better than yours" comment I may snap and go on a downvoting spree... :laugh:
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OriginalGriff wrote:
He's technically very capable, but he is rude and arrogant, and has the people skills of a dead tree frog. He has no patience with beginners, and instead of trying to understand what they are talking about just makes rude comments about them not using the right terms
I think we've all worked with at least one guy who matches that description. It's one of the perils of working in software development. We shuld get, well, if not danger money, then at least annoying-bugger-that-we-have-to-put-up-with-because-replacing-him-would-be-difficult money.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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He's technically very capable, but he is rude and arrogant, and has the people skills of a dead tree frog. He has no patience with beginners, and instead of trying to understand what they are talking about just makes rude comments about them not using the right terms then edits the question to add impolite tags like "Noeffort" or "IAmLazy" and downvotes them. For example: what data structure can I used for cards in monopoly[^] If he leaves me one more "My answer is better than yours" comment I may snap and go on a downvoting spree... :laugh:
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I agree about his lack of patience for beginners. Still he gives posh answers with great effort to provide details and lenghty explanations. Griffy, you might as well hold a carrot :thumbsup: along with your stick :mad:.
-- The trouble with people,
is that they want to hear only what they want to hear. -
OriginalGriff wrote:
He's technically very capable, but he is rude and arrogant, and has the people skills of a dead tree frog. He has no patience with beginners, and instead of trying to understand what they are talking about just makes rude comments about them not using the right terms
I think we've all worked with at least one guy who matches that description. It's one of the perils of working in software development. We shuld get, well, if not danger money, then at least annoying-bugger-that-we-have-to-put-up-with-because-replacing-him-would-be-difficult money.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Oh yes! It was me, when I was young and stupid. :laugh: I think it takes a good strong kick into something other than development to break you out of the "technical prima donna" attitude - it's far, far too easy to stay there and just reinforce the attitude because people will make allowances for you since you are very technically capable. In my case, it was being forced into a business role - where you can't behave like that if you want the wages to still keep coming in. I think it rounded me out well, but it wasn't an easy process (and I'm still not particularly good with people - but a lot better than I was)
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"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
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I agree about his lack of patience for beginners. Still he gives posh answers with great effort to provide details and lenghty explanations. Griffy, you might as well hold a carrot :thumbsup: along with your stick :mad:.
-- The trouble with people,
is that they want to hear only what they want to hear.I've tried: it's been his turn for a few years now... :laugh:
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He's technically very capable, but he is rude and arrogant, and has the people skills of a dead tree frog. He has no patience with beginners, and instead of trying to understand what they are talking about just makes rude comments about them not using the right terms then edits the question to add impolite tags like "Noeffort" or "IAmLazy" and downvotes them. For example: what data structure can I used for cards in monopoly[^] If he leaves me one more "My answer is better than yours" comment I may snap and go on a downvoting spree... :laugh:
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Best answeres assembled are read Manual X from Microsoft, very capable i'd say :rolleyes:
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Best answeres assembled are read Manual X from Microsoft, very capable i'd say :rolleyes:
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}HobbyProggy wrote:
Best answeres assembled are read Manual X from Microsoft, very capable i'd say
If I correctly comprehend what you mean by that, then surely you haven't read much of his answers.
I ain't got no signature.
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Oh yes! It was me, when I was young and stupid. :laugh: I think it takes a good strong kick into something other than development to break you out of the "technical prima donna" attitude - it's far, far too easy to stay there and just reinforce the attitude because people will make allowances for you since you are very technically capable. In my case, it was being forced into a business role - where you can't behave like that if you want the wages to still keep coming in. I think it rounded me out well, but it wasn't an easy process (and I'm still not particularly good with people - but a lot better than I was)
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Exactly. It's very easy to become arrogant if you do one thing really well, so being pushed into a field where you don't know "everything" can help you to see where your interactions with people are going awry. I've worked with a lot (a Lot!) of extremely talented developers who, for example, don't have a clue over OS administration or even how to use a spreadsheet. Mere mortals imagine that because someone can write code, they know everything about computers, but nothing could be further from the truth, and it can be fruitful to push the "overconfident" ones into areas where they are the ones who have to ask "stupid" questions.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
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Exactly. It's very easy to become arrogant if you do one thing really well, so being pushed into a field where you don't know "everything" can help you to see where your interactions with people are going awry. I've worked with a lot (a Lot!) of extremely talented developers who, for example, don't have a clue over OS administration or even how to use a spreadsheet. Mere mortals imagine that because someone can write code, they know everything about computers, but nothing could be further from the truth, and it can be fruitful to push the "overconfident" ones into areas where they are the ones who have to ask "stupid" questions.
I wanna be a eunuchs developer! Pass me a bread knife!
Spot on! :thumbsup:
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I agree about his lack of patience for beginners. Still he gives posh answers with great effort to provide details and lenghty explanations. Griffy, you might as well hold a carrot :thumbsup: along with your stick :mad:.
-- The trouble with people,
is that they want to hear only what they want to hear.By the same measure, if you tell someone that they're "not doing too badly", it is often taken to mean "You are a GOD at this!" Point out shortfalls clearly and unambiguously, and state accurately what needs to be improved. Too much stick might be bad for the individual, but too much carrot can be bad for everyone else.
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HobbyProggy wrote:
Best answeres assembled are read Manual X from Microsoft, very capable i'd say
If I correctly comprehend what you mean by that, then surely you haven't read much of his answers.
I ain't got no signature.
I read some, but i was impressed that answers that contain read manual X get voted with 5 ?
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
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Oh yes! It was me, when I was young and stupid. :laugh: I think it takes a good strong kick into something other than development to break you out of the "technical prima donna" attitude - it's far, far too easy to stay there and just reinforce the attitude because people will make allowances for you since you are very technically capable. In my case, it was being forced into a business role - where you can't behave like that if you want the wages to still keep coming in. I think it rounded me out well, but it wasn't an easy process (and I'm still not particularly good with people - but a lot better than I was)
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That was me too... Up to the point when a coworker complained to management that basically I'm an asshole. I was to be send to a soft skills course. I never got to that course, but I improved my soft skills by just watching my mouth. If there's something I don't want to be it's an asshole. I'm currently reading How to Win Friends and Influence People[^]. I've done some things very wrong in the past :D
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Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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He's technically very capable, but he is rude and arrogant, and has the people skills of a dead tree frog. He has no patience with beginners, and instead of trying to understand what they are talking about just makes rude comments about them not using the right terms then edits the question to add impolite tags like "Noeffort" or "IAmLazy" and downvotes them. For example: what data structure can I used for cards in monopoly[^] If he leaves me one more "My answer is better than yours" comment I may snap and go on a downvoting spree... :laugh:
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
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That was me too... Up to the point when a coworker complained to management that basically I'm an asshole. I was to be send to a soft skills course. I never got to that course, but I improved my soft skills by just watching my mouth. If there's something I don't want to be it's an asshole. I'm currently reading How to Win Friends and Influence People[^]. I've done some things very wrong in the past :D
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
Yeah - because people make allowances for your skills, it's too easy to slip into A**hole mode and stay there. Until someone points it out pretty damn forcefully, you don't realize what you are. Even then, most don't believe it...
Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...
"I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
"Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt -
Yeah - because people make allowances for your skills, it's too easy to slip into A**hole mode and stay there. Until someone points it out pretty damn forcefully, you don't realize what you are. Even then, most don't believe it...
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OriginalGriff wrote:
Even then, most don't believe it...
My first reaction was "he's just being over-sensitive." The problem sure as hell wasn't me :laugh:
Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.
Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra
Regards, Sander
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He's technically very capable, but he is rude and arrogant, and has the people skills of a dead tree frog. He has no patience with beginners, and instead of trying to understand what they are talking about just makes rude comments about them not using the right terms then edits the question to add impolite tags like "Noeffort" or "IAmLazy" and downvotes them. For example: what data structure can I used for cards in monopoly[^] If he leaves me one more "My answer is better than yours" comment I may snap and go on a downvoting spree... :laugh:
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Couldn't agree more. Being technically capable doesn't give anyone the right to look down on anyone else. My own philosophy is that I can learn something from someone else no matter what their background. I don't know everything. I may know lots of things but equally there are lots of things I don't know. Being humble, patient and considerate are qualities that we all need to exercise judiciously.
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Posh work on the Q&A. You are now (of in a few minutes) a millionaire :cool: We certainly have enjoyed every kopek - you give top notch answers all around.
-- The trouble with people,
is that they want to hear only what they want to hear. -
I read some, but i was impressed that answers that contain read manual X get voted with 5 ?
if(this.signature != "")
{
MessageBox.Show("This is my signature: " + Environment.NewLine + signature);
}
else
{
MessageBox.Show("404-Signature not found");
}There's a group of mutual admiration...
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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He's technically very capable, but he is rude and arrogant, and has the people skills of a dead tree frog. He has no patience with beginners, and instead of trying to understand what they are talking about just makes rude comments about them not using the right terms then edits the question to add impolite tags like "Noeffort" or "IAmLazy" and downvotes them. For example: what data structure can I used for cards in monopoly[^] If he leaves me one more "My answer is better than yours" comment I may snap and go on a downvoting spree... :laugh:
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And he doesn't always get it right either. Of the very few questions I've posted he answered two of them wrong not very thought through, and when having proven it to him he removed his answers. :laugh:
Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello
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Posh work on the Q&A. You are now (of in a few minutes) a millionaire :cool: We certainly have enjoyed every kopek - you give top notch answers all around.
-- The trouble with people,
is that they want to hear only what they want to hear.When said SAK becomes a QA Millionaire, imho, that is a sad day for CP: it is a testimony to how someone ... for whatever reasons ... can systematically "game the system." Along the path to this "achievement:" 1. alienating hundreds of newcomers and beginners in CP with gratuitous personal insults, off-topic quibbling, rants, including, at times, re-labeling the titles of their posts with statements like "[I am lazy]," "[No effort]." 2. almost begging, at times, to have his posts accepted as the correct answer. 3. filling QA with off-topic posts that do not respond to the question(s) asked stuffed with links to other answers he has already posted which also do not respond to the question(s) asked. 4. quibbling, and often niggling, comments on other solutions offered. A typical SAK response to a QA question is: 1. posting a derogatory comment on the OP suggesting the poster is ignorant, totally confused, and/or hopelessly stupid they would even mention a (your choice of ... Mdi ... PictureBox ... etc.). 2. followed by a quick post of a "Solution," many of which are obvious cut-and-pastes of previous answers, many of which are so far off-topic they could be science-fiction, padded with links to other off-topic solutions. This is usually followed by someone(s) rapidly voting his solution #5. Yes, some of his posts are worth-their-weight-in-gold, and are quite thoughtful; yes, he has technical skills, and knowledge, and he shows evidence of having had a kind of formal, theoretical, computer science education that I think is very rare today. My estimate is that the true value of his "rep" score ... if QA were not the video-arcade ego-game it is now which is so easily "gamed" for rep-bloat ... is far less than 500k points. I am, frankly, sad to see this happen because there are lots of other CP members trying to help out on QA who really try to relate to, and educate, newcomers, and provide solutions of enduring value. The fact that some of the imho most-gifted, most skilled, most articulate, CP members, like Pete O'Hanlon and Marc Clifton, have, in the past, stated publicly on CP that they avoid QA because of the behavior of SAK is, to me, a reality I find incomprehensible. SAK => QA millionaire makes about as much sense to me as some of the Presidents my country (USA) has elected :)
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