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  • D David Stone

    We won't because of some policy Clinton put in place saying that we wouldn't hire outside sources to do our dirty work. :| It would be a lot quicker...


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    As much as I despise that useless travesty of a President, this one cannot fairly be placed on his doorstep. It has been the official policy of the US government for decades that assassination is not an acceptable tool of American statecraft. The key word is official; I can't confirm or deny that any particular administration may have violated that principle. I can't disagree that it would have been a better choice, but the American people would be offended by such an act, and a President would be committing political suicide on the domestic front if he admitted using such tactics. I rather liked the strategy employed against Noriega. Try him in absentia, convict him, then arrest him in his own country. If we had adequate intel assets in-country to pull that one off, I think the world, and the folks at home, would have found reasons to go along with it. It disturbs me, and many of us here in the states, to see so much destruction in the cause of bringing down one mad dictator. The loss goes beyond the human - the Coalition forces, the Iraqi troops, and the civilians who have the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. There is also the loss of infrastructure that will put such great burdens on an already impoverished people, the potential destruction of irreplacable architectural sites, and works of art and culture. Such a mad waste of resources just to eliminate one insane creature and a handfull of his cronies... My mother, of all people, made a sensible suggestion a couple of years ago. She said, "Tell Arafat - you want a homeland for your people? Bring us Hussein, and you can have Baghdad." I like the way she thinks.... Ancient man conquered his rivals with the jawbone of an ass; modern man uses the jawbone of a politician.

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      Hey I was just wondering about this idea. Bush, Blair and others say their primary objective is to get rid of Saddam. Now what I was thinking is this: - Instead of spending billions and billions of $s, why didn’t they just hire 3-4 of the world's best professional killers and paid them to kill Saddam. They could also have tried to bribe some of Saddam's inside staff (by offering them in excess of 50 million or so) and made it easier for the killers. Just wondering. I mean it'd have saved a lot of money, a lot of lives and we wouldn’t have had to suffer endless coverage on CNN. Nish


      Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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      I think the idea has merit. But Iraq would have even more problems if Uday (Saddam's son) inherited the top job. So there is more than one person needing removing. Regardz Colin J Davies

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      • R Roger Wright

        As much as I despise that useless travesty of a President, this one cannot fairly be placed on his doorstep. It has been the official policy of the US government for decades that assassination is not an acceptable tool of American statecraft. The key word is official; I can't confirm or deny that any particular administration may have violated that principle. I can't disagree that it would have been a better choice, but the American people would be offended by such an act, and a President would be committing political suicide on the domestic front if he admitted using such tactics. I rather liked the strategy employed against Noriega. Try him in absentia, convict him, then arrest him in his own country. If we had adequate intel assets in-country to pull that one off, I think the world, and the folks at home, would have found reasons to go along with it. It disturbs me, and many of us here in the states, to see so much destruction in the cause of bringing down one mad dictator. The loss goes beyond the human - the Coalition forces, the Iraqi troops, and the civilians who have the misfortune of being in the wrong place at the wrong time. There is also the loss of infrastructure that will put such great burdens on an already impoverished people, the potential destruction of irreplacable architectural sites, and works of art and culture. Such a mad waste of resources just to eliminate one insane creature and a handfull of his cronies... My mother, of all people, made a sensible suggestion a couple of years ago. She said, "Tell Arafat - you want a homeland for your people? Bring us Hussein, and you can have Baghdad." I like the way she thinks.... Ancient man conquered his rivals with the jawbone of an ass; modern man uses the jawbone of a politician.

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        Roger Wright wrote: the Coalition forces I've been wondering about this for a couple of days now. When did we start being called the Coalition Forces? I see military personnel being interviewed still seem to refer to the "allies", but politicians and journalists now use the phrase "coalition forces". Does it have something to do with old "allies" not wanting to have anything to do with this war? Of course, I expect you to know the answer to my question Roger :-O


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        • R Rohit Sinha

          Nishant S wrote: Exactmento Nish, I didn't find it on dictionary.com. Is it a new word you have coined? Something to do with pseudodictionary.com? Is that the website I want? And does exactmento mean "my exact sentiments"?
          Regards,

          Rohit Sinha

          ...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!

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          I believe the word should've been "Exactomundo" and was first popularly coined by the "Fonz" in the TV comedy 50s-based series "Happy Days"... ;) "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can." "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance."

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            I believe the word should've been "Exactomundo" and was first popularly coined by the "Fonz" in the TV comedy 50s-based series "Happy Days"... ;) "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can." "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance."

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            phykell wrote: Exactomundo Ah. So what does it mean? Because I couldn't find it on dictionary.com either. Thanks. :)
            Regards,

            Rohit Sinha

            ...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!

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            • N Nish Nishant

              Hey I was just wondering about this idea. Bush, Blair and others say their primary objective is to get rid of Saddam. Now what I was thinking is this: - Instead of spending billions and billions of $s, why didn’t they just hire 3-4 of the world's best professional killers and paid them to kill Saddam. They could also have tried to bribe some of Saddam's inside staff (by offering them in excess of 50 million or so) and made it easier for the killers. Just wondering. I mean it'd have saved a lot of money, a lot of lives and we wouldn’t have had to suffer endless coverage on CNN. Nish


              Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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              I think the security services of many countries have been trying to get at Saddam for many years now (The US, UK, Israelis, etc.) but he's just too elusive.


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                Nishant S wrote: Instead of spending billions and billions of $s, why didn’t they just hire 3-4 of the world's best professional killers and paid them to kill Saddam. One problem, there was a U.S. federal law passed to make it illegal for any branch in US government to assassinate any foreign leaders, except during war, etc., etc.:-O:-D Later,
                JoeSox
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                Paul Watson
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                Get some US assasin. Let him find Sadam and trail him. He then phones back to Bush and says "Scope is on", Bush presses the Declare War button. War is declared, the assasin is told, he fires, phones back, Bush pushes the War Over button. Presto. :rolleyes:

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                • R Rohit Sinha

                  phykell wrote: Exactomundo Ah. So what does it mean? Because I couldn't find it on dictionary.com either. Thanks. :)
                  Regards,

                  Rohit Sinha

                  ...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!

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                  Megan Forbes
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                  It means Exactly, in a friendly "you are so right" kind of way :)


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                    Hey I was just wondering about this idea. Bush, Blair and others say their primary objective is to get rid of Saddam. Now what I was thinking is this: - Instead of spending billions and billions of $s, why didn’t they just hire 3-4 of the world's best professional killers and paid them to kill Saddam. They could also have tried to bribe some of Saddam's inside staff (by offering them in excess of 50 million or so) and made it easier for the killers. Just wondering. I mean it'd have saved a lot of money, a lot of lives and we wouldn’t have had to suffer endless coverage on CNN. Nish


                    Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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                    Paul Watson
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                    fuck ups Nish. A lot of people assume that Sadman is an idiot. They be wrong. The dude is pretty switched on, if a bit nuts. Apparently he has a harem of doubles (some of which have been killed mistakenly) and sleeps in a different tent/palace each and every night too. I am pretty amazed that they can't track the real guy. But then they can't even track a chemical weapons plant (I keep asking myself that. Iraq is not THAT big. Surely they have every square inch photographed? But they keep cresting dunes and seeing things they were not expecting. Very weird IMO) so go figure. So they have tried, they just haven't managed to. So now the plan is to corner him in some Baghdad turkish baths with nowhere to run. Then they can chop through his doubles until the real one emerges. Then again, as Stan mentions, Sadam and his bro may be dead already.

                    Paul Watson
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                    Macbeth muttered: I am in blood / Stepped in so far, that should I wade no more, / Returning were as tedious as go o'er DavidW wrote: You are totally mad. Nice.

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                    • D David Stone

                      We won't because of some policy Clinton put in place saying that we wouldn't hire outside sources to do our dirty work. :| It would be a lot quicker...


                      any idiot can write haiku you just stop at seventeenth syl -ThinkGeek Fortunes

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                      You honestly think special forces aren't up to that ? And why do you think SH has so many doubles ? The tigress is here :-D

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                      • D David Stone

                        We won't because of some policy Clinton put in place saying that we wouldn't hire outside sources to do our dirty work. :| It would be a lot quicker...


                        any idiot can write haiku you just stop at seventeenth syl -ThinkGeek Fortunes

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                        umm. President Ford put that policy in place.


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                        • N Nish Nishant

                          Hey I was just wondering about this idea. Bush, Blair and others say their primary objective is to get rid of Saddam. Now what I was thinking is this: - Instead of spending billions and billions of $s, why didn’t they just hire 3-4 of the world's best professional killers and paid them to kill Saddam. They could also have tried to bribe some of Saddam's inside staff (by offering them in excess of 50 million or so) and made it easier for the killers. Just wondering. I mean it'd have saved a lot of money, a lot of lives and we wouldn’t have had to suffer endless coverage on CNN. Nish


                          Author of the romantic comedy Summer Love and Some more Cricket [New Win] Review by Shog9 Click here for review[NW]

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                          Nishant S wrote: their primary objective is to get rid of Saddam Not just Saddam, but the regime that he runs. Even if you chopped of the head with a surgical strike, I think you would find its like a hydra, a new head would step in and things would be the same. They need to replace the whole regime, thats why its war, not assassination. Roger Allen Sonork 100.10016 Were you different as a kid? Did you ever say "Ooohhh, shiny red" even once? - Paul Watson 11-February-2003

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                          • M Megan Forbes

                            It means Exactly, in a friendly "you are so right" kind of way :)


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                            Thanks, Meg. :)
                            Regards,

                            Rohit Sinha

                            ...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!

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                            • R Rohit Sinha

                              Nishant S wrote: Exactmento Nish, I didn't find it on dictionary.com. Is it a new word you have coined? Something to do with pseudodictionary.com? Is that the website I want? And does exactmento mean "my exact sentiments"?
                              Regards,

                              Rohit Sinha

                              ...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!

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                              Nish Nishant
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                              Rohit  Sinha wrote: Nish, I didn't find it on dictionary.com. Is it a new word you have coined? Dunno Rohit. I use it to mean exactly in a strong way. They have a similar word in French and/or Spanish. And as others mentioned Fonzie Fonzarelli used to use it too I guess. I like the sound of it anyway :-) Nish


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                                Rohit  Sinha wrote: Nish, I didn't find it on dictionary.com. Is it a new word you have coined? Dunno Rohit. I use it to mean exactly in a strong way. They have a similar word in French and/or Spanish. And as others mentioned Fonzie Fonzarelli used to use it too I guess. I like the sound of it anyway :-) Nish


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                                Rohit Sinha
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                                I asked because I noticed you used it on a couple of occasions, and I could not find it on dictionary.com. Thanks for the clarification. :)
                                Regards,

                                Rohit Sinha

                                ...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!

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                                  Get some US assasin. Let him find Sadam and trail him. He then phones back to Bush and says "Scope is on", Bush presses the Declare War button. War is declared, the assasin is told, he fires, phones back, Bush pushes the War Over button. Presto. :rolleyes:

                                  Paul Watson
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                                  Cape Town, South Africa

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                                  :-D Later,
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                                  • R Rohit Sinha

                                    phykell wrote: Exactomundo Ah. So what does it mean? Because I couldn't find it on dictionary.com either. Thanks. :)
                                    Regards,

                                    Rohit Sinha

                                    ...celebrating Indian spirit and Cricket. 8MB video, really cool!

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                                    I see Megan has already answered you, but I must just point out that "Exactamundo" is probably the more accepted spelling ;) "The folly of man is that he dreams of what he can never achieve rather than dream of what he can." "If you think education is expensive, try ignorance."

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                                      Nishant S wrote: Instead of spending billions and billions of $s, why didn’t they just hire 3-4 of the world's best professional killers and paid them to kill Saddam. One problem, there was a U.S. federal law passed to make it illegal for any branch in US government to assassinate any foreign leaders, except during war, etc., etc.:-O:-D Later,
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                                      JoeSox wrote: there was a U.S. federal law passed it's not a "law" in the sense that Congress got together and voted on it. it was an "executive order" written by President Ford. as such, it can be tossed out any time any president decides he doesn't like it. -c


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                                        JoeSox wrote: there was a U.S. federal law passed it's not a "law" in the sense that Congress got together and voted on it. it was an "executive order" written by President Ford. as such, it can be tossed out any time any president decides he doesn't like it. -c


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                                        Chris Losinger wrote: it's not a "law" in the sense that Congress got together and voted on it. it was an "executive order" written by President Ford. hee, hee I knew someone would point this out, it was late and I was tired, but you know what I meant, but good point:-D:-D Later,
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                                        • M Megan Forbes

                                          Roger Wright wrote: the Coalition forces I've been wondering about this for a couple of days now. When did we start being called the Coalition Forces? I see military personnel being interviewed still seem to refer to the "allies", but politicians and journalists now use the phrase "coalition forces". Does it have something to do with old "allies" not wanting to have anything to do with this war? Of course, I expect you to know the answer to my question Roger :-O


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                                          Megan Forbes wrote: I expect you to know the answer to my question Roger LOL!!! I don't know the answer to half of my own questions! But I'm sure the term Coalition is being misused here, and it appears to be an attempt to put a unified face on the matter. It certainly sounds nicer than "Imperialist Invaders," though the term "Coalition" seems a bit optimistic. It's possible that the US government coined the term, but it's more likely that CNN invented it. It's much better than the term "embedded," though. I'm tired of hearing about embedded reporters. That must be a lousy job, like having a career as a suppository. Ancient man conquered his rivals with the jawbone of an ass; modern man uses the jawbone of a politician.

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