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  • L Luigi Esposito

    Hi Everybody, my company is going to start new age development of our legacy software using some of the low code platform available on the market. Please i really would like to have some feedbacks/opinion/suggestions about the "low code" development. For low code development i mean the one using BPM (Business process management) platforms. Thanks in advance

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    Somehow all this sounds like a new fancy name for Access. And if some company tells me they are going to start a new age by using Access...

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    • L Luigi Esposito

      Hi Everybody, my company is going to start new age development of our legacy software using some of the low code platform available on the market. Please i really would like to have some feedbacks/opinion/suggestions about the "low code" development. For low code development i mean the one using BPM (Business process management) platforms. Thanks in advance

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      Nagy Vilmos
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      Is your CV up to date?

      veni bibi saltavi

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        Is your CV up to date?

        veni bibi saltavi

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        Luigi Esposito
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        Do you think i need to update my CV ? :-)

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        • L Luigi Esposito

          Do you think i need to update my CV ? :-)

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          Nagy Vilmos
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          Run! Run as fast as you can & don't look back - it'll only slow you down!

          veni bibi saltavi

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          • L Luigi Esposito

            Hi Everybody, my company is going to start new age development of our legacy software using some of the low code platform available on the market. Please i really would like to have some feedbacks/opinion/suggestions about the "low code" development. For low code development i mean the one using BPM (Business process management) platforms. Thanks in advance

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            Brady Kelly
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            Luigi Esposito wrote:

            low code development i mean the one using BPM (Business process management) platforms

            In twenty years of coding, I have never heard of such an animal. :~ I know what low level code, like C or C++, or assembly, is, and I have a rough idea what BPM is, but my BPM is light years away from anything close to low level.

            No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde

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              Run! Run as fast as you can & don't look back - it'll only slow you down!

              veni bibi saltavi

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              Luigi Esposito
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              Or even worst... I could become a pillar of salt :-)

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              • L Luigi Esposito

                Or even worst... I could become a pillar of salt :-)

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                Luigi Esposito wrote:

                Or even worst... I could become a pillar of salt VB

                FTFY!

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                • L Luigi Esposito

                  Hi Everybody, my company is going to start new age development of our legacy software using some of the low code platform available on the market. Please i really would like to have some feedbacks/opinion/suggestions about the "low code" development. For low code development i mean the one using BPM (Business process management) platforms. Thanks in advance

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                  Duncan Edwards Jones
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                  Something like Pega[^]?

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                  • B Brady Kelly

                    Luigi Esposito wrote:

                    low code development i mean the one using BPM (Business process management) platforms

                    In twenty years of coding, I have never heard of such an animal. :~ I know what low level code, like C or C++, or assembly, is, and I have a rough idea what BPM is, but my BPM is light years away from anything close to low level.

                    No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde

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                    Brady Kelly wrote:

                    In twenty years of coding, I have never heard of such an animal.

                    Back in 2005, I worked for a company who's main IDE (if you can call it such a thing) was Omnis Studio (it's still around, weirdly enough http://www.tigerlogic.com/tigerlogic/omnis/products/studio/[^]) It was sold as a "4th generation language" (referring to the Omnis language) and was so advanced that you weren't allowed to type your own code, but had to select the appropriate keywords from a context sensitive list. I was glad to see the back of that :laugh:

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                      Something like Pega[^]?

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                      Luigi Esposito
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                      Yes Pega is one of the platforms..

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                        Luigi Esposito wrote:

                        Or even worst... I could become a pillar of salt VB

                        FTFY!

                        Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                        OriginalGriff wrote:

                        Or even worst... I could become a pillar of salt VBA

                        Access was mentioned!

                        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                          Brady Kelly wrote:

                          In twenty years of coding, I have never heard of such an animal.

                          Back in 2005, I worked for a company who's main IDE (if you can call it such a thing) was Omnis Studio (it's still around, weirdly enough http://www.tigerlogic.com/tigerlogic/omnis/products/studio/[^]) It was sold as a "4th generation language" (referring to the Omnis language) and was so advanced that you weren't allowed to type your own code, but had to select the appropriate keywords from a context sensitive list. I was glad to see the back of that :laugh:

                          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                          Brady Kelly
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                          Yikes. I thought those kind of things died by 2000. Around '95 I was introduced to a very evil Frankenstein that generated VB-like code (maybe crossed with COBOL) based on a flowchart you created with a GUI. Luckily I wasn't a coder then and this was just a novelty for my boss.

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                          • L Luigi Esposito

                            Yes Pega is one of the platforms..

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                            This lot may not be a good source of opinions on enterprise type software. From my VERY limited experience with these things the "development" is mostly configuring their framework. The only validity for the expression low code would be low value code. A framework is an abstraction layer and I would consider these to be very abstracted. You probably need to find a forum of configurers rather than developers.

                            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                            • L Luigi Esposito

                              Hi Everybody, my company is going to start new age development of our legacy software using some of the low code platform available on the market. Please i really would like to have some feedbacks/opinion/suggestions about the "low code" development. For low code development i mean the one using BPM (Business process management) platforms. Thanks in advance

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                              Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                              my experience of this type of platform is that it works fine if you can change your systems to follow how the platform works, else you end up doing 3x the coding to get round issues with the platform

                              You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                              • B Brady Kelly

                                Yikes. I thought those kind of things died by 2000. Around '95 I was introduced to a very evil Frankenstein that generated VB-like code (maybe crossed with COBOL) based on a flowchart you created with a GUI. Luckily I wasn't a coder then and this was just a novelty for my boss.

                                No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde

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                                Nagy Vilmos
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                                Not bloody ``Things`` by any chance? I remember the ``ThingsDB`` data layer and it truly was a steaming bucket of excrement!

                                veni bibi saltavi

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                                  Not bloody ``Things`` by any chance? I remember the ``ThingsDB`` data layer and it truly was a steaming bucket of excrement!

                                  veni bibi saltavi

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                                  Brady Kelly
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                                  I dunno what the name was, but Things does ring a microscopic bell somewhere. I don't remember seeing a data layer as such, but maybe back then I didn't know to look at or for one.

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                                  • M Mycroft Holmes

                                    This lot may not be a good source of opinions on enterprise type software. From my VERY limited experience with these things the "development" is mostly configuring their framework. The only validity for the expression low code would be low value code. A framework is an abstraction layer and I would consider these to be very abstracted. You probably need to find a forum of configurers rather than developers.

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    Luigi Esposito
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                                    I think that is not only matter of configuring their framework. Most of the activities will be spent on process design, including coding C# scripts and where complexity depends from the process you are defining.

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                                      my experience of this type of platform is that it works fine if you can change your systems to follow how the platform works, else you end up doing 3x the coding to get round issues with the platform

                                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                      Jorgen Andersson
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                                      It sounds like you've been working with SAP. That works best if you change all systems, including your country's taxation and accounting system, to adjust for SAP.

                                      Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                                        Brady Kelly wrote:

                                        In twenty years of coding, I have never heard of such an animal.

                                        Back in 2005, I worked for a company who's main IDE (if you can call it such a thing) was Omnis Studio (it's still around, weirdly enough http://www.tigerlogic.com/tigerlogic/omnis/products/studio/[^]) It was sold as a "4th generation language" (referring to the Omnis language) and was so advanced that you weren't allowed to type your own code, but had to select the appropriate keywords from a context sensitive list. I was glad to see the back of that :laugh:

                                        How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                                        Luigi Esposito
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                                        I think that such things belong to the past. I worked with such tools known as CASE, RAD or 4GL (i was even a PowerBuilder developer :-)) The new paradigma of BPM is focusing on process design and coding it with any script language (if needed)

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                                        • L Luigi Esposito

                                          Hi Everybody, my company is going to start new age development of our legacy software using some of the low code platform available on the market. Please i really would like to have some feedbacks/opinion/suggestions about the "low code" development. For low code development i mean the one using BPM (Business process management) platforms. Thanks in advance

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                                          Lost User
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                                          The more things change the more they stay the same - deploy the prototype.

                                          Peter Wasser "The whole problem with the world is that fools and fanatics are always so certain of themselves, and wiser people so full of doubts." - Bertrand Russell

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