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  • C codejet

    I has been said many times that be able to code does not necessarily make you a programmer/developer. I just realised that I am one of those people who can write code that works pretty well. I'm not always proud of my methods (don't mean methods as in procedures) and design, most of the time I do whatever works. I get my code to work by any means necessary. I guess I am not a programmer/developer even though that is the my official position at work. Question is who/what am I?

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    kmoorevs
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    Depressed? Relax and On Error Resume Next...get it working, then make it work right! In software there's always room for improvement! :laugh:

    "Go forth into the source" - Neal Morse

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    • W W Balboos GHB

      codejet wrote:

      my first language is VB

      Explaining your perplexed state - as certainly VB doesn't lend itself to programming.

      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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      Sander Rossel
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      There is no finer language on earth!

      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

      Regards, Sander

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      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

        There is no finer language on earth!

        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

        Regards, Sander

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        W Balboos GHB
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        I suppose - if your original programming language was pig-Latin.     ;

        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

          There is no finer language on earth!

          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

          Regards, Sander

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          OriginalGriff
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          Sander Rossel wrote:

          There is no finer language on earth in Mordor!

          FTFY!

          Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

          "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
          "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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          • W W Balboos GHB

            I suppose - if your original programming language was pig-Latin.     ;

            "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

            "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

            "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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            Sander Rossel
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            Well, VB can only do everything C# can. It only has no curly braces and semi-colons. I guess VB isn't for you if you just love those curly braces and semi-colons...

            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

            Regards, Sander

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            • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

              Sander Rossel wrote:

              There is no finer language on earth in Mordor!

              FTFY!

              Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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              Sander Rossel
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              Ash VB durbatulûk, ash VB gimbatul, ash VB thrakatulûk, agh burzum-ishi krimpatul. :D

              Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

              Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

              Regards, Sander

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              • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                Well, VB can only do everything C# can. It only has no curly braces and semi-colons. I guess VB isn't for you if you just love those curly braces and semi-colons...

                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                Regards, Sander

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                W Balboos GHB
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                Sander Rossel wrote:

                Well, VB can only do everything C# can.

                Well - I suppose so - I mean it is certainly possible to bang in a nail with a rock. Per C# - M$ was hoping to use it to lure VB.NET users away - but I don't bother with C# when C++ is so handy. {{     }{   }{   }{   }}; ; ; ;;{}{}{}{String ^harder = "oh, it feels soooo good" } Talk namespace to me . . . Ahh::AHhh::AHHH;

                "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                  Well, VB can only do everything C# can. It only has no curly braces and semi-colons. I guess VB isn't for you if you just love those curly braces and semi-colons...

                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                  Regards, Sander

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                  OriginalGriff
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                  Four words: "ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" X|

                  Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                  "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                  "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                  • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                    Four words: "ON ERROR RESUME NEXT" X|

                    Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                    Sander Rossel
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                    You're right, it does more than C#! :D I've never used that one though :laugh: I wonder if it's just a shorthand for an empty catch block... In that case C# supports it too ;)

                    Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                    Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                    Regards, Sander

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                    • W W Balboos GHB

                      Sander Rossel wrote:

                      Well, VB can only do everything C# can.

                      Well - I suppose so - I mean it is certainly possible to bang in a nail with a rock. Per C# - M$ was hoping to use it to lure VB.NET users away - but I don't bother with C# when C++ is so handy. {{     }{   }{   }{   }}; ; ; ;;{}{}{}{String ^harder = "oh, it feels soooo good" } Talk namespace to me . . . Ahh::AHhh::AHHH;

                      "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                      "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                      "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                      Sander Rossel
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                      W∴ Balboos wrote:

                      {{     }{   }{   }{   }}; ; ; ;;{}{}{}{String ^harder = "oh, it feels soooo good" } Talk namespace to me . . . Ahh::AHhh::AHHH;

                      Hey, this is the lounge, keep it decent please! :laugh:

                      Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                      Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                      Regards, Sander

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                      • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                        W∴ Balboos wrote:

                        {{     }{   }{   }{   }}; ; ; ;;{}{}{}{String ^harder = "oh, it feels soooo good" } Talk namespace to me . . . Ahh::AHhh::AHHH;

                        Hey, this is the lounge, keep it decent please! :laugh:

                        Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                        Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                        Regards, Sander

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                        W Balboos GHB
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                        It just came to mind - the only basic of general worth: Basic Instinct

                        "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                        "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                        "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                          Well, VB can only do everything C# can. It only has no curly braces and semi-colons. I guess VB isn't for you if you just love those curly braces and semi-colons...

                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                          Regards, Sander

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                          PIEBALDconsult
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                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                          VB can only do everything C# can

                          No it can't; there are things C# can do that VB.net can't.

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                          • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                            You're right, it does more than C#! :D I've never used that one though :laugh: I wonder if it's just a shorthand for an empty catch block... In that case C# supports it too ;)

                            Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                            Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                            Regards, Sander

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                            OriginalGriff
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                            ... An empty catch block round each individual line of code... :~

                            Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

                            "I have no idea what I did, but I'm taking full credit for it." - ThisOldTony
                            "Common sense is so rare these days, it should be classified as a super power" - Random T-shirt

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                            • P Pete OHanlon

                              Pragmatic.

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                              newton saber
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                              Pete O'Hanlon wrote:

                              Pragmatic.

                              Ahem...

                              if (OriginalPoster == isProgrammerWhoDoesMaintenanceOnOwnCode)
                              {
                              OriginalPoster = PragmaticProgrammer;
                              }
                              else
                              {
                              OriginalPoster = MajorProblemCreator;
                              }

                              :D

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                              • P PIEBALDconsult

                                Sander Rossel wrote:

                                VB can only do everything C# can

                                No it can't; there are things C# can do that VB.net can't.

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                                Sander Rossel
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                                Like? Use unsafe code... If I wanted unsafe I wouldn't go with C# either! And there's some stuff VB can do that C# can't too :)

                                Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                Regards, Sander

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                                • W W Balboos GHB

                                  It just came to mind - the only basic of general worth: Basic Instinct

                                  "The difference between genius and stupidity is that genius has its limits." - Albert Einstein

                                  "As far as we know, our computer has never had an undetected error." - Weisert

                                  "If you are searching for perfection in others, then you seek disappointment. If you are seek perfection in yourself, then you will find failure." - Balboos HaGadol Mar 2010

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                                  Sander Rossel
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                                  Actually most basics are pretty indispensable! Try becoming a good programmer (or anything) without mastering the basics :)

                                  Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                  Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                  Regards, Sander

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                                  • A Amarnath S

                                    IMHO, a good rule is: 1. Make it work. 2. Then make it work better - run faster, use lesser memory, use better algorithms, etc.; essentially optimize. Have seen people creating elaborate UML diagrams, only to find shortcomings in the code. In one extreme case, the code (C++) did not run; then the coder globally replaced all private by public, and it ran; throwing away all encapsulation to the wind; fixing this was a nightmare :-)

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                                    Mycroft Holmes
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                                    Wat be this private thing you speak of? ;P

                                    Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                                      Wat be this private thing you speak of? ;P

                                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                                      Amarnath S
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                                      ;)

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                                      • C codejet

                                        I has been said many times that be able to code does not necessarily make you a programmer/developer. I just realised that I am one of those people who can write code that works pretty well. I'm not always proud of my methods (don't mean methods as in procedures) and design, most of the time I do whatever works. I get my code to work by any means necessary. I guess I am not a programmer/developer even though that is the my official position at work. Question is who/what am I?

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                                        JimmyRopes
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                                        codejet wrote:

                                        I'm not always proud of my methods (don't mean methods as in procedures) and design, most of the time I do whatever works. I get my code to work by any means necessary. I guess I am not a programmer/developer

                                        FTFY :-D Contrary to how academics define programmer/developer in reality the code needs to work. Sometimes you will be forced to produce under circumstances that are out of your control. The results may not be pretty but if it works is all that can be expected, not some textbook solution that you do not have the means to produce in the current situation.

                                        Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha Simply Elegant Designs JimmyRopes Designs

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                                        • Sander RosselS Sander Rossel

                                          Well, VB can only do everything C# can. It only has no curly braces and semi-colons. I guess VB isn't for you if you just love those curly braces and semi-colons...

                                          Visit my blog at Sander's bits - Writing the code you need. Or read my articles at my CodeProject profile.

                                          Simplicity is prerequisite for reliability. — Edsger W. Dijkstra

                                          Regards, Sander

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                                          Sander Rossel wrote:

                                          f you just love those curly braces and semi-colons...

                                          A simple } looks lot better that bloody End IF, End For, End Select, and End Using all over the bloody place.

                                          No object is so beautiful that, under certain conditions, it will not look ugly. - Oscar Wilde

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