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    Richard Andrew x64
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    I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

      I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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      jgakenhe
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      I'm not surprised. I figured Windows 10 and Spartan would just be refreshes of the current products with some new functionality. They're both mature products and MSFT is just looking to keep the money coming in. MSFT new monies are going towards the cloud.

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      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

        I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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        Sascha Lefevre
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        Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

        Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you

        That's probably the explanation for why they're so vigorous about pushing everyone to upgrade. I really hoped they would actually deliver on their assurance to listen to the users. :sigh: Oh well. I guess I'll use Windows 10 just for compatibility tests and stick to Windows 7 otherwise. Screw you, MS, you can't take it away from me :laugh:

        If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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        • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

          I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

          The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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          Chris Maunder
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          Can live tiles please just go away and die. I want to work. I want to get me own stuff done. Having the Operating System (of all things) constantly trying to grab your attention is insanity. Let apps do that so at least we have a choice to uninstall them, but the OS should be completely invisible to us.

          cheers Chris Maunder

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          • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

            I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

            The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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            ronDW
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            On Facebook, there are these "memes", One I particularly like is, "Being a good programmer is 3% talent and 97% not being distracted by the internet". So now, it looks like that task will be even harder :wtf: . I thought that Microsoft was good for business. All this imposed distractions, reminded me on how Huxleyan (i.e. Brave New World) our existence is becoming :omg:.

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            • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

              I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

              The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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              Roger Wright
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              Thanks for the heads up, Richard! :-D

              Will Rogers never met me.

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                Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you

                That's probably the explanation for why they're so vigorous about pushing everyone to upgrade. I really hoped they would actually deliver on their assurance to listen to the users. :sigh: Oh well. I guess I'll use Windows 10 just for compatibility tests and stick to Windows 7 otherwise. Screw you, MS, you can't take it away from me :laugh:

                If the brain were so simple we could understand it, we would be so simple we couldn't. — Lyall Watson

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                Jorgen Andersson
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                Listening to the users != doing what the users want. Common mistake in believing so. I believe they've listened well, analysed the data properly, and then they involved marketing...

                Wrong is evil and must be defeated. - Jeff Ello

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                • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                  I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

                  The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                  Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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                  It is very simple... If Microsoft rules the OS market - and it means the it able to sell OS to the majority (and developers are a minority) - it will force developers to work with Microsoft's OSes...Like it or not... So when Microsoft states that it listening to users it does not mean you!!! (And for that matter Windows is not an OS only for along time - and the OS role is less relevant for Microsoft with every release...)

                  Skipper: We'll fix it. Alex: Fix it? How you gonna fix this? Skipper: Grit, spit and a whole lotta duct tape.

                  "It never ceases to amaze me that a spacecraft launched in 1977 can be fixed remotely from Earth." ― Brian Cox

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                  • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                    I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

                    The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                    charlieg
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                    Hmmm... app development time... wonder how much $$ I could make injecting a system level dll to defeat the live tiles?

                    Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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                    • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                      I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

                      The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                      dandy72
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                      Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                      They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want.

                      I take it this is the first build of Windows 10 you've installed, then.

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                      • Richard Andrew x64R Richard Andrew x64

                        I just installed the latest build of Windows 10, and I have to say it's a masterpiece of marketing propaganda. They make such a big deal that this version was created with the feedback of users, but it turns out that it's everything a user would NOT want. The start menu would be better called the advertising menu because apparently that's its function now, to push apps by making "suggestions." They give you the ability to turn off "personalized ads" in the new Spartan browser, but they specifically say that turning off personalized ads doesn't stop them from collecting data - it only stops them from using the data for ads. The search box on the taskbar pops up live tiles even if you don't want it to, showing news and things they want you to buy. Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

                        The difficult we do right away... ...the impossible takes slightly longer.

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                        newton saber
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                        Great analysis and reporting on that. Thanks for the info. Also you said,

                        Richard Andrew x64 wrote:

                        Windows 10 is nothing but a huge invasion of privacy and a marketing device to push crap on you.

                        We will all use it though. We will. :D I'm serious and joking and I don't know if it's funny or not. Probably not. :|

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