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  • T Tim Carmichael

    As much as people are saying they won't upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1, what are your future computing plans? Yes, there have been some... not so pleasant... versions of Windows, but it is a prevalent product in the workforce, and, it will just be a matter of time before we are required to upgrade our work computers to something else. So.. will you stay on Windows 7 until Windows NEXT (whatever comes after 10) is available? If you work on systems for clients and they are on Windows 10, how will you test/support them? Not for or against any particular version, just asking question.

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    Kornfeld Eliyahu Peter
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    I have a VM to test Windows 10 since it first preview and IMHO it is not worst than 7 as a developer machine... As it is not that bad I can not refuse to update when time comes...

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    • I Ian Shlasko

      HobbyProggy wrote:

      i'd personally try to stay on 7 as long as possible to prevent the yearly charge

      They're not going subscription... Updates are still free once you move to X. They're just giving up on charging for version upgrades, and continuing to make money on corporate licenses and the OEM tax. As for the "unpleasant changes"... Yeah, that's a definite possibility.

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      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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      I thought they were moving to the Firefox model 256 updates per day (500 on a Thursday)

      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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      • T Tim Carmichael

        As much as people are saying they won't upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1, what are your future computing plans? Yes, there have been some... not so pleasant... versions of Windows, but it is a prevalent product in the workforce, and, it will just be a matter of time before we are required to upgrade our work computers to something else. So.. will you stay on Windows 7 until Windows NEXT (whatever comes after 10) is available? If you work on systems for clients and they are on Windows 10, how will you test/support them? Not for or against any particular version, just asking question.

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        Nemanja Trifunovic
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        I honestly don't care. Will use whatever Windows is installed on a machine I use. It's just an operating system...

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        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

          I thought they were moving to the Firefox model 256 updates per day (500 on a Thursday)

          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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          HobbyProggy
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          Like Windows X.128371283.12371246812 Build 72462372 to Windows X.27183281072.27931627936 Build 148178678 they started at X.000000000001.0000000000001 Build 1

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          • T Tim Carmichael

            As much as people are saying they won't upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1, what are your future computing plans? Yes, there have been some... not so pleasant... versions of Windows, but it is a prevalent product in the workforce, and, it will just be a matter of time before we are required to upgrade our work computers to something else. So.. will you stay on Windows 7 until Windows NEXT (whatever comes after 10) is available? If you work on systems for clients and they are on Windows 10, how will you test/support them? Not for or against any particular version, just asking question.

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            Marc Clifton
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            Stick with W7 for now, but probably upgrade to W10 the next time I upgrade my entire desktop or get a new laptop, or if there's some actual need to upgrade. Marc

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            • T Tim Carmichael

              As much as people are saying they won't upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1, what are your future computing plans? Yes, there have been some... not so pleasant... versions of Windows, but it is a prevalent product in the workforce, and, it will just be a matter of time before we are required to upgrade our work computers to something else. So.. will you stay on Windows 7 until Windows NEXT (whatever comes after 10) is available? If you work on systems for clients and they are on Windows 10, how will you test/support them? Not for or against any particular version, just asking question.

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              Wastedtalent
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              Staying on Win 7 Because of WMC on my Desktop. Might upgrade laptops, might just buy a new one once WX is out. I'm in no rush.

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              • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                wasn't my fault I told them it should have been in a try catch block

                You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                Lost User
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                Would it not have been easier to put all the rebels into little try-catch blocks?

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                  I'm not sure yet. What I'll probably do is a fresh system image, then install 10 and either keep it or restore right back over the top. Win 8 was so execrable and unloved that MS have got to get it right this time, and they know it. If they get it wrong this time as well it could destroy them in the desktop market.

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                  Corporal Agarn
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                  OriginalGriff wrote:

                  t could destroy them in the desktop market.

                  We can only hope

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                    Doesn't matter. As long as I have the correct version of Visual Studio for my project and a browser to get to Stack Overflow CodeProject, I'll be fine :laugh:

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                    Corporal Agarn
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                    snorkie wrote:

                    Stack Overflow

                    Burn the heretic! :laugh:

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                      Would it not have been easier to put all the rebels into little try-catch blocks?

                      The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                      This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                      "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                      that was in the next sprint release, as were defensive guns that worked against small ships and shields that stopped ships as well as rock (how they managed to build them so that they stopped huge rocks but allowed enemy ships though is beyond me, I think the outsourced software house "Yoda software" may have made a mess of the code) serves them right for using agile

                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                        Like Windows X.128371283.12371246812 Build 72462372 to Windows X.27183281072.27931627936 Build 148178678 they started at X.000000000001.0000000000001 Build 1

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                        Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                        just wait until they release each build individually

                        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                        • T Tim Carmichael

                          As much as people are saying they won't upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1, what are your future computing plans? Yes, there have been some... not so pleasant... versions of Windows, but it is a prevalent product in the workforce, and, it will just be a matter of time before we are required to upgrade our work computers to something else. So.. will you stay on Windows 7 until Windows NEXT (whatever comes after 10) is available? If you work on systems for clients and they are on Windows 10, how will you test/support them? Not for or against any particular version, just asking question.

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                          Dan Neely
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                          10 all around for my computers; barring any major surprises I suspect I'll be upgrading all of my families 8.x PCs to 10 (not sure if any of them still have working w7 laptops). Also, older versions of Windows are more likely to get pwnd[^] by hackers; I'd rather do a bunch of OS upgrades than one "Yeah, you're infected; Time to take of and nuke it from orbit" discussion. The long tail for family machines is my Dad's laptop; but since he tends to buy and abuse a worstbuy special to death every other year (while on the road so calling me for help isn't a problem), I'm less concerned about it. And while my uncle has 3 vista boxes for his kids to do homework on; $150-200 will get a Win7 installed reburb corporate desktop that's significantly faster (the single core AMD chips in them now really suck) for only marginally more than an OS upgrade (kids are agitating for not-vista) and minor repairs (at least one of them has a dead cd drive) would run. If he does have me setup the new boxes, I'll be bumping them to 10 before delivery. Kids are ground zero for malware. :sigh: As a gamer the performance gain from DX12 is a killer app. That said, I'll probably upgrade my laptop early on; and may hold out on my desktop until Christmas/New Years break to give more trouble shooting time if something goes wrong. OTOH if the laptop (and my spare desktop) go smoothly I might not; backup restore is easy enough after all and while I don't have any major problems with 8.1, it looks like W10 will reduce the friction involved.

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                          • T Tim Carmichael

                            As much as people are saying they won't upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1, what are your future computing plans? Yes, there have been some... not so pleasant... versions of Windows, but it is a prevalent product in the workforce, and, it will just be a matter of time before we are required to upgrade our work computers to something else. So.. will you stay on Windows 7 until Windows NEXT (whatever comes after 10) is available? If you work on systems for clients and they are on Windows 10, how will you test/support them? Not for or against any particular version, just asking question.

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                            Maximilien
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                            (at work) I'd like to, but it always depends on 3rd party support. (at home) I'd like to, but I need to update hardware; current hardware is lacking (even on Win7)

                            I'd rather be phishing!

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                            • T Tim Carmichael

                              As much as people are saying they won't upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1, what are your future computing plans? Yes, there have been some... not so pleasant... versions of Windows, but it is a prevalent product in the workforce, and, it will just be a matter of time before we are required to upgrade our work computers to something else. So.. will you stay on Windows 7 until Windows NEXT (whatever comes after 10) is available? If you work on systems for clients and they are on Windows 10, how will you test/support them? Not for or against any particular version, just asking question.

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                              Lost User
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                              Tim Carmichael wrote:

                              it is a prevalent product in the workforce

                              Yes, for the moment. Just like DBaseIV once was a leader. A single bad version is easily skipped, but it appears not to be limited to a single version; if you ignore Win7 you see a clear path of degradation. It will remain in the office for quite some time to come - even if you actively try to kill old technology, someone will still be out there using it (hello VB6). Personally, I started moving toward different Linux-distro's after the release of Vista. It has been a pleasant experience, at a price that Microsoft simlpy cannot beat.

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                              • T Tim Carmichael

                                As much as people are saying they won't upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1, what are your future computing plans? Yes, there have been some... not so pleasant... versions of Windows, but it is a prevalent product in the workforce, and, it will just be a matter of time before we are required to upgrade our work computers to something else. So.. will you stay on Windows 7 until Windows NEXT (whatever comes after 10) is available? If you work on systems for clients and they are on Windows 10, how will you test/support them? Not for or against any particular version, just asking question.

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                                Lost User
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                                I switched to OSX as my main OS when Windows 8 came out. At work, I used to be 100% Windows (.NET development) but I'm currently on about 75% Windows, 25% Mac (iOS development) these days. With the direction .NET is going in (Roslyn, Visual Studio Code, Office 2016), I'm looking forward to seeing some good stuff from Microsoft in terms of IDE somewhere down the line, while at the same time enabling me to leave the crappy Windows platform behind for good :) I don't think that Windows really has much of a future unless they do something radical with it.

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                                • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                                  just wait until they release each build individually

                                  You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                  Ian Shlasko
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                                  At exactly what point do we stop calling them "updates" and start calling them "forced pull requests"?

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                                  • T Tim Carmichael

                                    As much as people are saying they won't upgrade to Windows 10 from Windows 7 or 8.1, what are your future computing plans? Yes, there have been some... not so pleasant... versions of Windows, but it is a prevalent product in the workforce, and, it will just be a matter of time before we are required to upgrade our work computers to something else. So.. will you stay on Windows 7 until Windows NEXT (whatever comes after 10) is available? If you work on systems for clients and they are on Windows 10, how will you test/support them? Not for or against any particular version, just asking question.

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                                    R Erasmus
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                                    Upgrade from 7 to 10 is free, so why not?

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                                    • I Ian Shlasko

                                      At exactly what point do we stop calling them "updates" and start calling them "forced pull requests"?

                                      Proud to have finally moved to the A-Ark. Which one are you in?
                                      Author of the Guardians Saga (Sci-Fi/Fantasy novels)

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                                      Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                                      when MS copyrights that phrase (probably next Tuesday)

                                      You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                        I will stick to my DOS 6.22 and Windows for workgroups, can't do with all this updating of OS's

                                        You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                        • B Bergholt Stuttley Johnson

                                          when MS copyrights that phrase (probably next Tuesday)

                                          You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                                          Weston Miller
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                                          And patents each and every build...

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