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well, that'll teach me to back-up religiously (schadenfreude fodder enclosed)

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    ... update from the field-hospital at the front: mirabile dictu the gone-awol hard-drive has now reappeared after several re-boots ... viewing it in "This PC" it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded." ... Another small triumph for the demons: today, I tried doing a Win System Image (8.1) back-up onto a 1.5 gig (Sata 3.0) hard-drive (with lots of free space); it failed, and now the 1.5 gig Tb drive won't mount. I've done the usual bit about dis-connecting the drive and re-connectiing, re-booting, examining the BIOS info, etc. The fact the fried-critter don't show up in the BIOS is, I assume, a death sentencel, but I'll try mounting it on another machine and see what happens. Whilst the drive is still under warranty, and replacement under warranty here in Thailand (for WD drives) is fast and no-questions-asked, and no inscrutable forms to fill-out, this drive happens to have my entire prized collection of movies, downloaded British TV programs, music, etc., on it :( Now: don't you feel happy because this didn't happen to you; doesn't it make you just want to smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough" ? cheers, Bill

    «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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      ... update from the field-hospital at the front: mirabile dictu the gone-awol hard-drive has now reappeared after several re-boots ... viewing it in "This PC" it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded." ... Another small triumph for the demons: today, I tried doing a Win System Image (8.1) back-up onto a 1.5 gig (Sata 3.0) hard-drive (with lots of free space); it failed, and now the 1.5 gig Tb drive won't mount. I've done the usual bit about dis-connecting the drive and re-connectiing, re-booting, examining the BIOS info, etc. The fact the fried-critter don't show up in the BIOS is, I assume, a death sentencel, but I'll try mounting it on another machine and see what happens. Whilst the drive is still under warranty, and replacement under warranty here in Thailand (for WD drives) is fast and no-questions-asked, and no inscrutable forms to fill-out, this drive happens to have my entire prized collection of movies, downloaded British TV programs, music, etc., on it :( Now: don't you feel happy because this didn't happen to you; doesn't it make you just want to smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough" ? cheers, Bill

      «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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      BillWoodruff wrote:

      smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough"

      Ummm... if the data existed only on the failed HD then it wasn't really a back-up at all. :doh:

      Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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        BillWoodruff wrote:

        smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough"

        Ummm... if the data existed only on the failed HD then it wasn't really a back-up at all. :doh:

        Contrary to popular belief, nobody owes you anything.

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        Go ahead, Brother Mike, rub my nose in it :)

        «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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          ... update from the field-hospital at the front: mirabile dictu the gone-awol hard-drive has now reappeared after several re-boots ... viewing it in "This PC" it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded." ... Another small triumph for the demons: today, I tried doing a Win System Image (8.1) back-up onto a 1.5 gig (Sata 3.0) hard-drive (with lots of free space); it failed, and now the 1.5 gig Tb drive won't mount. I've done the usual bit about dis-connecting the drive and re-connectiing, re-booting, examining the BIOS info, etc. The fact the fried-critter don't show up in the BIOS is, I assume, a death sentencel, but I'll try mounting it on another machine and see what happens. Whilst the drive is still under warranty, and replacement under warranty here in Thailand (for WD drives) is fast and no-questions-asked, and no inscrutable forms to fill-out, this drive happens to have my entire prized collection of movies, downloaded British TV programs, music, etc., on it :( Now: don't you feel happy because this didn't happen to you; doesn't it make you just want to smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough" ? cheers, Bill

          «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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          BillWoodruff wrote:

          a 1.5 gig

          Isn't that a wee bit small? Marc

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            Go ahead, Brother Mike, rub my nose in it :)

            «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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            Sorry... you have my sympathy. :rose: While all my data is actually backed up (duplicated) - the original and the back-up are located less then 2m apart so even a small localized fire destroys both. :doh: I really need to consider an off-site copy. :-O

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              ... update from the field-hospital at the front: mirabile dictu the gone-awol hard-drive has now reappeared after several re-boots ... viewing it in "This PC" it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded." ... Another small triumph for the demons: today, I tried doing a Win System Image (8.1) back-up onto a 1.5 gig (Sata 3.0) hard-drive (with lots of free space); it failed, and now the 1.5 gig Tb drive won't mount. I've done the usual bit about dis-connecting the drive and re-connectiing, re-booting, examining the BIOS info, etc. The fact the fried-critter don't show up in the BIOS is, I assume, a death sentencel, but I'll try mounting it on another machine and see what happens. Whilst the drive is still under warranty, and replacement under warranty here in Thailand (for WD drives) is fast and no-questions-asked, and no inscrutable forms to fill-out, this drive happens to have my entire prized collection of movies, downloaded British TV programs, music, etc., on it :( Now: don't you feel happy because this didn't happen to you; doesn't it make you just want to smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough" ? cheers, Bill

              «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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              A serious question: Which app did you use to create the image when the drive was fried?

              How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                ... update from the field-hospital at the front: mirabile dictu the gone-awol hard-drive has now reappeared after several re-boots ... viewing it in "This PC" it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded." ... Another small triumph for the demons: today, I tried doing a Win System Image (8.1) back-up onto a 1.5 gig (Sata 3.0) hard-drive (with lots of free space); it failed, and now the 1.5 gig Tb drive won't mount. I've done the usual bit about dis-connecting the drive and re-connectiing, re-booting, examining the BIOS info, etc. The fact the fried-critter don't show up in the BIOS is, I assume, a death sentencel, but I'll try mounting it on another machine and see what happens. Whilst the drive is still under warranty, and replacement under warranty here in Thailand (for WD drives) is fast and no-questions-asked, and no inscrutable forms to fill-out, this drive happens to have my entire prized collection of movies, downloaded British TV programs, music, etc., on it :( Now: don't you feel happy because this didn't happen to you; doesn't it make you just want to smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough" ? cheers, Bill

                «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                As a pc support tech by trade I can tell you today's drives are criminally crap. They are a unthinkable place to put anything you hold dear. Back them up every night and if possible backup the backups.

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                  As a pc support tech by trade I can tell you today's drives are criminally crap. They are a unthinkable place to put anything you hold dear. Back them up every night and if possible backup the backups.

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                  And backup the backups of the backups. At least get yourself a Blue Ray drive that will hold 25GB on a single disc and burn your data to a set of BR discs.

                  How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                    ... update from the field-hospital at the front: mirabile dictu the gone-awol hard-drive has now reappeared after several re-boots ... viewing it in "This PC" it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded." ... Another small triumph for the demons: today, I tried doing a Win System Image (8.1) back-up onto a 1.5 gig (Sata 3.0) hard-drive (with lots of free space); it failed, and now the 1.5 gig Tb drive won't mount. I've done the usual bit about dis-connecting the drive and re-connectiing, re-booting, examining the BIOS info, etc. The fact the fried-critter don't show up in the BIOS is, I assume, a death sentencel, but I'll try mounting it on another machine and see what happens. Whilst the drive is still under warranty, and replacement under warranty here in Thailand (for WD drives) is fast and no-questions-asked, and no inscrutable forms to fill-out, this drive happens to have my entire prized collection of movies, downloaded British TV programs, music, etc., on it :( Now: don't you feel happy because this didn't happen to you; doesn't it make you just want to smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough" ? cheers, Bill

                    «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                    Bill, Can you pull the HDD out of the USB enclosure and place the HDD directly in a computer to see if it is visible in the BIOS? If you do this, can see the HDD in the BIOS but Windows says it is not formatted, get the following. Download Parted Magic (about USD$10.00), boot from the disk and see if you can mount it directly from the Linux based desktop. If this fails, then open the Terminal and run Testdisk. If you get this far, search for a tutorial on line about using this to rescue data/fix the partition. If you can't find it, give me a yell and I will find where I put this link.

                    Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                      ... update from the field-hospital at the front: mirabile dictu the gone-awol hard-drive has now reappeared after several re-boots ... viewing it in "This PC" it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded." ... Another small triumph for the demons: today, I tried doing a Win System Image (8.1) back-up onto a 1.5 gig (Sata 3.0) hard-drive (with lots of free space); it failed, and now the 1.5 gig Tb drive won't mount. I've done the usual bit about dis-connecting the drive and re-connectiing, re-booting, examining the BIOS info, etc. The fact the fried-critter don't show up in the BIOS is, I assume, a death sentencel, but I'll try mounting it on another machine and see what happens. Whilst the drive is still under warranty, and replacement under warranty here in Thailand (for WD drives) is fast and no-questions-asked, and no inscrutable forms to fill-out, this drive happens to have my entire prized collection of movies, downloaded British TV programs, music, etc., on it :( Now: don't you feel happy because this didn't happen to you; doesn't it make you just want to smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough" ? cheers, Bill

                      «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                      BillWoodruff wrote:

                      it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded."

                      Doesn't that just mean it's running low on space?


                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

                      "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined" - Homer

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                        BillWoodruff wrote:

                        a 1.5 gig

                        Isn't that a wee bit small? Marc

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                        Marc Clifton wrote:

                        Isn't that a wee bit small?

                        Why, "yes," Brother Marc: for a man of your Gargantuan stature 1.5 gigs would not back-up a smidgen's-worth of those of your neurons hat contain only the memory of one day ! I use the term "Gargantuan" here because, unfortunately, as in the case of "schadenfreude," English has no "native" word that refers directly to the weltanschauung of his fellow-giant son, "Pantagruel," of whose philosophy's guiding ethos Rabelais wrote: "une certaine gaîté d'esprit confite dans le mépris des choses fortuites" ... "a certain gaiety of mind pickled in the scorn of fortuitous things." :) cheers, Bill

                        «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                          And backup the backups of the backups. At least get yourself a Blue Ray drive that will hold 25GB on a single disc and burn your data to a set of BR discs.

                          How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                          Cornelius Henning wrote:

                          get yourself a Blue Ray drive that will hold 25GB on a single disc and burn your data to a set of BR discs.

                          Thanks, Brother Cornelius, please respond by private e-mail to this message with your credit card information, and a link to which on-line store you would like me to purchase said item with. yours, Bill

                          «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                            Bill, Can you pull the HDD out of the USB enclosure and place the HDD directly in a computer to see if it is visible in the BIOS? If you do this, can see the HDD in the BIOS but Windows says it is not formatted, get the following. Download Parted Magic (about USD$10.00), boot from the disk and see if you can mount it directly from the Linux based desktop. If this fails, then open the Terminal and run Testdisk. If you get this far, search for a tutorial on line about using this to rescue data/fix the partition. If you can't find it, give me a yell and I will find where I put this link.

                            Michael Martin Australia "I controlled my laughter and simple said "No,I am very busy,so I can't write any code for you". The moment they heard this all the smiling face turned into a sad looking face and one of them farted. So I had to leave the place as soon as possible." - Mr.Prakash One Fine Saturday. 24/04/2004

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                            Brother Michael, thanks very much for this very practical response ! For unknown reasons (possibly a teaser designed to lull me back into somnolence while the demons prepare an even greater misfortune), said WD hard-drive has re-appeared in the Bios after many reboots. I am now running chkdsk with options /f /r /x ... I see it's already fixed a few clusters, but it will take an eternity to complete the job. cheers, Bill

                            «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                              BillWoodruff wrote:

                              it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded."

                              Doesn't that just mean it's running low on space?


                              "These people looked deep within my soul and assigned me a number based on the order in which I joined." - Homer

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                              Do you think I can understand plausible, rational, explanations at a time like this ? I'd say my current mental state must be (I guess) like that of many newcomers on QA. :) cheers, Bill

                              «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                                ... update from the field-hospital at the front: mirabile dictu the gone-awol hard-drive has now reappeared after several re-boots ... viewing it in "This PC" it appears with a red content-utilized bar rather than the usual blue ... signifying, I guess, "wounded." ... Another small triumph for the demons: today, I tried doing a Win System Image (8.1) back-up onto a 1.5 gig (Sata 3.0) hard-drive (with lots of free space); it failed, and now the 1.5 gig Tb drive won't mount. I've done the usual bit about dis-connecting the drive and re-connectiing, re-booting, examining the BIOS info, etc. The fact the fried-critter don't show up in the BIOS is, I assume, a death sentencel, but I'll try mounting it on another machine and see what happens. Whilst the drive is still under warranty, and replacement under warranty here in Thailand (for WD drives) is fast and no-questions-asked, and no inscrutable forms to fill-out, this drive happens to have my entire prized collection of movies, downloaded British TV programs, music, etc., on it :( Now: don't you feel happy because this didn't happen to you; doesn't it make you just want to smirk and utter profound platitudes like "one back-up is never enough" ? cheers, Bill

                                «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                                Sorry to hear that - it's horrible when it happens. Going forward if you have the spare cash you may want to consider some sort of cloud online backup. I recently bought 1 terabyte of dropbox storage for 79Ggbp for one year together with a "restore any file to any point in the year" service for 29gbp. It's not a huge outlay when you consider the amount of time and effort backups and storing and retrieving those backups from a safe location takes. (I will still be taking images every 6 months for my own peace of mind)

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                                  Cornelius Henning wrote:

                                  get yourself a Blue Ray drive that will hold 25GB on a single disc and burn your data to a set of BR discs.

                                  Thanks, Brother Cornelius, please respond by private e-mail to this message with your credit card information, and a link to which on-line store you would like me to purchase said item with. yours, Bill

                                  «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                                  My most sincere apologies! I did not take into account that a Blue Ray drive is so exorbitantly expensive! ;P

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                                    A serious question: Which app did you use to create the image when the drive was fried?

                                    How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                                    I was using the MS Win 8.1 file history => create system image facility. Years ago I used to use "Drive Snapshot," a lean/mean excellent (commercial) utility, but, as I went on to Win 7/8, I just used the built-in Win facilities. thanks, Bill

                                    «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                                      I was using the MS Win 8.1 file history => create system image facility. Years ago I used to use "Drive Snapshot," a lean/mean excellent (commercial) utility, but, as I went on to Win 7/8, I just used the built-in Win facilities. thanks, Bill

                                      «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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                                      Thanks for the response!

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                                        A serious question: Which app did you use to create the image when the drive was fried?

                                        How do we preserve the wisdom men will need, when their violent passions are spent? - The Lost Horizon

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                                        If you are asking because you need to do one, I'm currently trying the free version of APMEI Backupper[^] as I'm looking for something before I update to Win10 next month. So far, I've created an image, but I need to do a trial restore which means dismantling the PC to fit a "disposable" disk so I'll try it probably this weekend. I'll generate a Windows System Image tonight and compare them.

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                                          Sorry to hear that - it's horrible when it happens. Going forward if you have the spare cash you may want to consider some sort of cloud online backup. I recently bought 1 terabyte of dropbox storage for 79Ggbp for one year together with a "restore any file to any point in the year" service for 29gbp. It's not a huge outlay when you consider the amount of time and effort backups and storing and retrieving those backups from a safe location takes. (I will still be taking images every 6 months for my own peace of mind)

                                          “That which can be asserted without evidence, can be dismissed without evidence.”

                                          ― Christopher Hitchens

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                                          Thanks, Guy, I have been thinking about purchasing some "cloud-space," and, since I've used DropBox for years now, considered DropBox. What holds me back, however, is the thought of how long it would take me to upload 900+ gigs of stuff, given that my internet connection here (Thailand) is a relatively slow ADSL, and I am too cheap to pay a lot for a faster connection. cheers, Bill

                                          «I want to stay as close to the edge as I can without going over. Out on the edge you see all kinds of things you can't see from the center» Kurt Vonnegut.

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