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Can You Program The MS Stack?

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  • S SoMad

    An annual pay of $120,000 - $150,000 is beneath you? Wages must be pretty high in the Netherlands. Soren Madsen

    "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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    Colin Mullikin
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    I think you interpreted it backwards from what he meant. He was implying that he would use whatever stack they told him to if they were going to pay him that much.

    The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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      I think you interpreted it backwards from what he meant. He was implying that he would use whatever stack they told him to if they were going to pay him that much.

      The United States invariably does the right thing, after having exhausted every other alternative. -Winston Churchill America is the only country that went from barbarism to decadence without civilization in between. -Oscar Wilde Wow, even the French showed a little more spine than that before they got their sh*t pushed in.[^] -Colin Mullikin

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      SoMad
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      You are probably right, but that means he is prepared to waste their time by blindly applying. It says you must have experience with the stack (whatever it is). I thought he was saying that given the compensation he didn't want to waste his own time trying to figure out what stack they mean.

      "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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        Here[^] Please don't waste our time if you don't meet all of the above requirements. What requirements????

        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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        jgakenhe
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        Funny. Times must be tough in L.A. for developers; glad I'm not there.

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        • K Kevin Marois

          Here[^] Please don't waste our time if you don't meet all of the above requirements. What requirements????

          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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          RossMW
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          I think the HR got the programmers and the miscellaneous stuff stacker (forklift driver) jobs mixed up :laugh:

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          • K Kevin Marois

            Here[^] Please don't waste our time if you don't meet all of the above requirements. What requirements????

            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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            Stefan_Lang
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            I always wonder why people are so keen on experience and being a quick learner - if you have the latter, is the former really that important? IMHO, someone who's really a quick learner, and willing and able to apply this to any given job, then any other requirement is just ... sauce. Besides, I've never seen a job requirements list that was or even could be met in full. I fondly remember one particular job offer requiring 10 years of experience in Java in 2000. Go figure... :doh:

            GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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            • S SoMad

              You are probably right, but that means he is prepared to waste their time by blindly applying. It says you must have experience with the stack (whatever it is). I thought he was saying that given the compensation he didn't want to waste his own time trying to figure out what stack they mean.

              "When you don't know what you're doing it's best to do it quickly" - Jase #DuckDynasty

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              Lost User
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              Not only does the recruiter not know what he is talking about, concepts do not change simply because there's another company name behind it. A database is a database, a server a server.

              SoMad wrote:

              I thought he was saying that given the compensation he didn't want to waste his own time trying to figure out what stack they mean.

              The field is called "information and communication technology"; they only know what they want, knowing what they mean is my job.

              Bastard Programmer from Hell :suss: If you can't read my code, try converting it here[^][](X-Clacks-Overhead: GNU Terry Pratchett)

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              • K Kevin Marois

                Here[^] Please don't waste our time if you don't meet all of the above requirements. What requirements????

                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                Stefan_Lang
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                I see nothing about software in there, so I assume they'd consider any experienced secretary. Specifically, the reference to the MS stack doesn't even refer to programming! The "experienced programmer" bit doesn't refer to the MS stack, so, does programming coffee machines and copy machines and a microwace count? ;P And why not? Everyone likes to delegate their power point presentations to their secretary! :cool:

                GOTOs are a bit like wire coat hangers: they tend to breed in the darkness, such that where there once were few, eventually there are many, and the program's architecture collapses beneath them. (Fran Poretto)

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                • K Kevin Marois

                  Here[^] Please don't waste our time if you don't meet all of the above requirements. What requirements????

                  If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                  greldak
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                  I guess at least you should have a good idea of the quality of specs you can be expected to implement. Obviously the primary requirement is ESP.

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                    I have 10 years experience administering Windows Server 2012

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                    Bergholt Stuttley Johnson
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                    when are you eligible for parole?

                    You cant outrun the world, but there is no harm in getting a head start Real stupidity beats artificial intelligence every time.

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                    • K Kevin Marois

                      Here[^] Please don't waste our time if you don't meet all of the above requirements. What requirements????

                      If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                      Philip Murray
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                      If they are that rude on a job posting I wouldn't touch them with a barge pole.

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                      • K Kevin Marois

                        Here[^] Please don't waste our time if you don't meet all of the above requirements. What requirements????

                        If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                        Brad Stiles
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                        Honestly, the only way I'd take a job in LA is if I could work from my home here in KY.

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                        • K Kevin Marois

                          Here[^] Please don't waste our time if you don't meet all of the above requirements. What requirements????

                          If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                          Kirk 10389821
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                          I see the requirements in the posting. But... Is Craigs List REALLY where you want to find your next Sr. Developer? Who wrote this? The disgruntled ex-Developer during his exit interview? It's like... We have $100K to pay you, but ZERO marketing money to FIND you. We will hire you, and put you in a hole soooo deep, your family will never find you again. (Like they will figure out you replied to a Craigs List job offer!)

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                            I see the requirements in the posting. But... Is Craigs List REALLY where you want to find your next Sr. Developer? Who wrote this? The disgruntled ex-Developer during his exit interview? It's like... We have $100K to pay you, but ZERO marketing money to FIND you. We will hire you, and put you in a hole soooo deep, your family will never find you again. (Like they will figure out you replied to a Craigs List job offer!)

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                            Kevin Marois
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                            I don't see any requirements in there. These are requirements: 1) What language(s) does the applicant need to know? 2) What platforms will he/she be working on (PC/Web/Mobile) targeting what?(Desktop, Java, UNIX) 3) What databases does he/she need to know, if any (SQL, NoSQL, etc) 4) What architecture does he/she need to know (Stand Alone / multi-tier / web services, etc) 5) What industry are you in? What type of products do you manufacture? As far as Craigslist... Most of the time the postings are decent and full of content like above.. I've found my last 4-5 gigs on Craigslist. It's a cheap, easy to use medium that is widely viewed and doesn't require dealing with some moronic recruiter.

                            If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                              I don't see any requirements in there. These are requirements: 1) What language(s) does the applicant need to know? 2) What platforms will he/she be working on (PC/Web/Mobile) targeting what?(Desktop, Java, UNIX) 3) What databases does he/she need to know, if any (SQL, NoSQL, etc) 4) What architecture does he/she need to know (Stand Alone / multi-tier / web services, etc) 5) What industry are you in? What type of products do you manufacture? As far as Craigslist... Most of the time the postings are decent and full of content like above.. I've found my last 4-5 gigs on Craigslist. It's a cheap, easy to use medium that is widely viewed and doesn't require dealing with some moronic recruiter.

                              If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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                              Kirk 10389821
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                              Wow, I would never have imagined. I have had such mixed experiences. One guy sold me something broken, another tried bait and switch after I drove almost 2hrs! Maybe it is a Florida thing. Where are you at? But I do appreciate that it may actually work... Interesting. I stand corrected at scoffing at the Craigs Listing...

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                                Wow, I would never have imagined. I have had such mixed experiences. One guy sold me something broken, another tried bait and switch after I drove almost 2hrs! Maybe it is a Florida thing. Where are you at? But I do appreciate that it may actually work... Interesting. I stand corrected at scoffing at the Craigs Listing...

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                                Kevin Marois
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                                I've seen a real spike in job posting there over the last 5 years. In each Craigslist "city" page there are two links to look at: Under Jobs Software / QA / DB Here's where 95% of the programming work is found Under Gigs Computer This contains all manner of content that people consider computer related, but from time to time I find small contract work here.
                                The thing with Craigslist is that it's open to anyone to post anything, so ya, you gotta spend some time looking over each post and clicking around, but the jobs are there.

                                If it's not broken, fix it until it is

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