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  • R Rage

    ... is going fucking ridiculous. I tried to open my google account today from a computer I had never been using before. As a security check (You are not using this compute to access your account blabla..) I got asked to enter a fucking phone number finishing with two given digits that was supposed to be in my personnal profile : never heard of that number. So could not do it. Alternatively, they wanted to send me an SMS code on the same number. This was logically pointless as I do not know that phone number, and I did have my phone with me anyway. So I had no way to access my account ! What is the fucking point of having data in the cloud if you cannot access it from devices "you are not using usually" ? X| As a result : Back home, I was forced to modify my Google account password, which I have now to take over on all my android devices, redo all the fucking sync settings. I haven't found any place where I could find or change that wrong phone number they were asking me X| I am so done with that shit.

    Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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    dandy72
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    Now imagine having to go through that every couple of months for one of your relatives who keeps "losing" his password and wants you to reset all of his accounts across all of his devices...

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      Now imagine having to go through that every couple of months for one of your relatives who keeps "losing" his password and wants you to reset all of his accounts across all of his devices...

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      Mycroft Holmes
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      They get to ask once, just once, after that they are on their own.

      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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      • M Mycroft Holmes

        They get to ask once, just once, after that they are on their own.

        Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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        dandy72
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        Can we trade relatives?

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        • R Rage

          ... is going fucking ridiculous. I tried to open my google account today from a computer I had never been using before. As a security check (You are not using this compute to access your account blabla..) I got asked to enter a fucking phone number finishing with two given digits that was supposed to be in my personnal profile : never heard of that number. So could not do it. Alternatively, they wanted to send me an SMS code on the same number. This was logically pointless as I do not know that phone number, and I did have my phone with me anyway. So I had no way to access my account ! What is the fucking point of having data in the cloud if you cannot access it from devices "you are not using usually" ? X| As a result : Back home, I was forced to modify my Google account password, which I have now to take over on all my android devices, redo all the fucking sync settings. I haven't found any place where I could find or change that wrong phone number they were asking me X| I am so done with that shit.

          Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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          charlieg
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          nothing to do with "internet" security. there is none

          Charlie Gilley Stuck in a dysfunctional matrix from which I must escape... "Where liberty dwells, there is my country." B. Franklin, 1783 “They who can give up essential liberty to obtain a little temporary safety deserve neither liberty nor safety.” BF, 1759

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            Can we trade relatives?

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            Mycroft Holmes
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            Training my friend, training. Don't do it for them, make them do the job. HUGELY frustrating to do that but worth the effort.

            Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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            • R Rage

              ... is going fucking ridiculous. I tried to open my google account today from a computer I had never been using before. As a security check (You are not using this compute to access your account blabla..) I got asked to enter a fucking phone number finishing with two given digits that was supposed to be in my personnal profile : never heard of that number. So could not do it. Alternatively, they wanted to send me an SMS code on the same number. This was logically pointless as I do not know that phone number, and I did have my phone with me anyway. So I had no way to access my account ! What is the fucking point of having data in the cloud if you cannot access it from devices "you are not using usually" ? X| As a result : Back home, I was forced to modify my Google account password, which I have now to take over on all my android devices, redo all the fucking sync settings. I haven't found any place where I could find or change that wrong phone number they were asking me X| I am so done with that shit.

              Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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              Rosenne
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              An oxymoron?

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              • R Rage

                ... is going fucking ridiculous. I tried to open my google account today from a computer I had never been using before. As a security check (You are not using this compute to access your account blabla..) I got asked to enter a fucking phone number finishing with two given digits that was supposed to be in my personnal profile : never heard of that number. So could not do it. Alternatively, they wanted to send me an SMS code on the same number. This was logically pointless as I do not know that phone number, and I did have my phone with me anyway. So I had no way to access my account ! What is the fucking point of having data in the cloud if you cannot access it from devices "you are not using usually" ? X| As a result : Back home, I was forced to modify my Google account password, which I have now to take over on all my android devices, redo all the fucking sync settings. I haven't found any place where I could find or change that wrong phone number they were asking me X| I am so done with that shit.

                Do not escape reality : improve reality !

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                9082365
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                Ridiculous, certainly! But let's remember that all this nonsense has come about from pressure on companies like Google and Facebook from paranoid users (and scaremongering 'security' professionals more than willing to make a fast buck). I'm disinclined to blame Google for the bunker mentality of its 'customers'.

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                • M Mycroft Holmes

                  Training my friend, training. Don't do it for them, make them do the job. HUGELY frustrating to do that but worth the effort.

                  Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                  dandy72
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                  If only it were that easy. There's been situations where I've sent links to people with detailed step-by-step walkthroughs with screenshots, I've offered to people to show them some stuff and suggested to them to take notes as I walked through something, and had some of them tell me straight to my face, "I don't want you to show me how to fix it when it goes wrong, I just want you to keep it from happening again". I can certainly walk away, but some of these people are those I see at every family reunion and that sort of thing. Some people simply refuse to learn.

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                  • L Lost User

                    I once accessed one of my Facebook accounts via TOR browser. Facebook locked out my account. It said I accessed my account from a Denmark IP. Which is probably correct. The thing is it's Facebook! Not citibank. My guess is Facebook, Google, Yahoo, Amazon are trying to be the super do login "authenticators". 2 cents.

                    Rage against the narrative.
                    "To Build a Fire" - A dystopian novel about project management, and I am the dog.

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                    Ernst Iliov Stavro Blofeld wrote:

                    The thing is it's Facebook! Not Citibank.

                    A lot of people link their Facebook account to all sorts of other accounts, so if it gets compromised, they are all compromised. Admittedly, today no banks are stupid enough to allow that, but that's just a matter of time and change out of management who grew up trusting FB.

                    We can program with only 1's, but if all you've got are zeros, you've got nothing.

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                    • M Mycroft Holmes

                      Training my friend, training. Don't do it for them, make them do the job. HUGELY frustrating to do that but worth the effort.

                      Never underestimate the power of human stupidity RAH

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                      James Lonero
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                      There used to be an old saying, "give a man a fish and you feed him for a day. Teach him to fish and you feed him for a lifetime." With computers and most electronic devices and non tech type people, this just doesn't seem to hold up. You have to constantly feed them them. That is why IS departments exist.

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