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  • L Lost User

    Let's just say that looking at what I'm working on right now, I doubt that car manufacturers have the same quality standards as any aerospace companies.

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    Hmm.. you'd be surprised. Aircraft aren't made from high quality parts, they're made from parts that are at a low enough quality that they can be made consistently and cheaply. The price comes from the chain of paperwork that comes with each part. In the last aerospace company I worked for (American, BTW), I had colleagues who had all manner of problems from personal hygiene through to schizophrenia (the police came looking for that guy after he'd stopped taking his medications for about three weeks and started jabbering on about God to a mate of mine who worked in his department). One guy earned the name "The Terminator" for his handywork and was promptly promoted to a manager position :laugh: Another guy started bringing in the remains of what his cat had caught, making hand-crafted trophies from them (I'm talking about half a mouse), then hanging them up on the wall. The smell became a problem and he was "asked" to take them down. Like I said, in the aerospace industry the standards are low but consistent :laugh:

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    • J Johnny J

      Linkie broken. But the error page is one of the coolest I've seen in a long time... :laugh:

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      JimmyRopes
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      Johnny J. wrote:

      the error page is one of the coolest I've seen in a long time

      Yes it is. I like the way the eyes follow your cursor. :thumbsup:

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      • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

        Brent Jenkins wrote:

        But hey, what about our freedom, eh?

        What about the freedom of the pedestrians you mow down because you are texting while you drive? The couple into whose front room you drove because you had too many beers?

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        OriginalGriff wrote:

        The couple into whose front room you drove because you had too many beers

        Hard to explain after you crashed through their bay windows and knocked over the TV. :-D

        Once you lose your pride the rest is easy. In the end, only three things matter: how much you loved, how gently you lived, and how gracefully you let go of things not meant for you. – Buddha

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        • L Lost User

          That's exactly my point :laugh: There was an article in the news last week about the Google self-driven car having "another" accident (making it sound like it was the self-driven car that had caused the accidents). When you actually read the article, it'd been rear-ended by a human driver... again! I enjoy driving when I'm back in Wales, but it's a real hassle when closer to London. All in all, I'd rather have a computer driving me around when commuting, then have some fun driving at a local track or when the roads aren't congested.

          How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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          Dan Neely
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          Brent Jenkins wrote:

          I enjoy driving when I'm back in Wales, but it's a real hassle when closer to London. All in all, I'd rather have a computer driving me around when commuting, then have some fun driving at a local track or when the roads aren't congested.

          Same here. I can drive in heavy traffic if I have to; but live in a small town where closing two lanes on the 4 lane highway barely has any impact on travel time, bad traffic on my commute consists of two decrepit coal trucks side by side trying to pass each other going up a mountain instead of following each other in the slow lane.

          Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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          • T TheGreatAndPowerfulOz

            So, I'll just backup and get to safety[^] and at the same time run over and crush the motorcylce behind me. :wtf: :omg: Some people should have their driver's licenses permently revoked!

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            jeron1
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            The image appears to be gone, however anyone, for whatever reason, who crushes a motorcycle is OK in my book (and should receive a metal of honor and lower insurance premiums for ridding us of a damn nuisance).

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              Brent Jenkins wrote:

              I enjoy driving when I'm back in Wales, but it's a real hassle when closer to London. All in all, I'd rather have a computer driving me around when commuting, then have some fun driving at a local track or when the roads aren't congested.

              Same here. I can drive in heavy traffic if I have to; but live in a small town where closing two lanes on the 4 lane highway barely has any impact on travel time, bad traffic on my commute consists of two decrepit coal trucks side by side trying to pass each other going up a mountain instead of following each other in the slow lane.

              Did you ever see history portrayed as an old man with a wise brow and pulseless heart, waging all things in the balance of reason? Is not rather the genius of history like an eternal, imploring maiden, full of fire, with a burning heart and flaming soul, humanly warm and humanly beautiful? --Zachris Topelius Training a telescope on one’s own belly button will only reveal lint. You like that? You go right on staring at it. I prefer looking at galaxies. -- Sarah Hoyt

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              Lost User
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              Dan Neely wrote:

              two decrepit coal trucks side by side trying to pass each other going up a mountain instead of following each other in the slow lane

              I think that's part of the requirements for getting a goods vehicle license :laugh:

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              • L Lost User

                And would you get on any airliner knowing that the pilot had to fly the plane manually the whole way, or would you prefer they use the autopilot? :laugh:

                How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                Brent Jenkins wrote:

                would you prefer they use the autopilot?

                Can this autopilot land the plane in the Hudson River after a flock of birds caused all the engines to fail?

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                • L Lost User

                  Brent Jenkins wrote:

                  would you prefer they use the autopilot?

                  Can this autopilot land the plane in the Hudson River after a flock of birds caused all the engines to fail?

                  There are strangers on the Plain, Croaker

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                  Lost User
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                  For every one lucky positive, there are hundreds of incidents caused by human error.. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Überlingen_mid-air_collision[^]

                  How do you know so much about swallows? Well, you have to know these things when you're a king, you know.

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                  • J jeron1

                    The image appears to be gone, however anyone, for whatever reason, who crushes a motorcycle is OK in my book (and should receive a metal of honor and lower insurance premiums for ridding us of a damn nuisance).

                    "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                    jeron1 wrote:

                    anyone, for whatever reason, who crushes a motorcycle is OK in my book

                    IMAO, given the way some (most?) motorcyclists ride, the law should mandate the crushing of motorcycles. :mad:

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                    • OriginalGriffO OriginalGriff

                      Brent Jenkins wrote:

                      But hey, what about our freedom, eh?

                      What about the freedom of the pedestrians you mow down because you are texting while you drive? The couple into whose front room you drove because you had too many beers?

                      Bad command or file name. Bad, bad command! Sit! Stay! Staaaay...

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                      Kirk 10389821
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                      My daughter gets her license tomorrow. Wow. I remind her, not to make her afraid, but just because it is the truth. Driving is the most dangerous thing the average person does on a regular basis. A vehicle has the capacity to wreak immense havoc on peoples lives and property. Avoid distractions, don't be in a hurry, leave extra room. I think the self driving cars will be great. I was given an Acura TLX loaner with the "warning" system in place. Way cool. Putting the turn signal on, it detects objects in the way, blinks the light on the side view mirror, and buzzes the seat. Now I am afraid people will get used to it (like airbags) and drive less safely. That device will fail, and they will side swipe someone. Or they borrow someone elses car and try to rely on a feature that isn't there.

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                      • L Lost User

                        This was in the news two days ago: http://jaxenter.com/the-dangers-of-spaghetti-code-117807.html[^] I don't intend to die just because some company has as much expertise about software development as I have in laying eggs.

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                        This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
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                        Kirk 10389821
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                        The horrible part is that these people did not have to die. The 911 operator failed to tell them to put the car in neutral, and they failed to know themselves. Yes, the software caused a failure, but I remember being quite upset watching this on the News because you should know how to handle a stuck accelerator, and failing breaks. A momentary panic is understandable, but the one incident on the news, these people had worn out their brakes trying to stop/slow down the vehicle. Had they put the car in neutral, the brakes would have worked fine. The engine might have revved, but who cares. This is not excuse for horrible code. But horrible code + lack of skills = disaster!

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                          jeron1 wrote:

                          anyone, for whatever reason, who crushes a motorcycle is OK in my book

                          IMAO, given the way some (most?) motorcyclists ride, the law should mandate the crushing of motorcycles. :mad:

                          If you have an important point to make, don't try to be subtle or clever. Use a pile driver. Hit the point once. Then come back and hit it again. Then hit it a third time - a tremendous whack. --Winston Churchill

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                          jeron1
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                          Finally, a law I could vote for! :thumbsup:

                          "the debugger doesn't tell me anything because this code compiles just fine" - random QA comment "Facebook is where you tell lies to your friends. Twitter is where you tell the truth to strangers." - chriselst "I don't drink any more... then again, I don't drink any less." - Mike Mullikins uncle

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                          • K Kirk 10389821

                            The horrible part is that these people did not have to die. The 911 operator failed to tell them to put the car in neutral, and they failed to know themselves. Yes, the software caused a failure, but I remember being quite upset watching this on the News because you should know how to handle a stuck accelerator, and failing breaks. A momentary panic is understandable, but the one incident on the news, these people had worn out their brakes trying to stop/slow down the vehicle. Had they put the car in neutral, the brakes would have worked fine. The engine might have revved, but who cares. This is not excuse for horrible code. But horrible code + lack of skills = disaster!

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                            I learned driving with manual transmission and still prefer it today. If the clutch would fail, I still could force it into neutral, probably damaging the transmission. Anyway, even if this does not happen every day, I would probably be smart enough to put an automatic transmission into neutral, simply because I still know how the transmission works. Relying on any automation and ignorance of the underlying principles can prove to be deadly when things go wrong.

                            The language is JavaScript. that of Mordor, which I will not utter here
                            This is Javascript. If you put big wheels and a racing stripe on a golf cart, it's still a fucking golf cart.
                            "I don't know, extraterrestrial?" "You mean like from space?" "No, from Canada." If software development were a circus, we would all be the clowns.

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